JohnC Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Lot's of cash for a guy they have had to bring in a stunt-d**k for the money shot the past two seasons. LOL...Eagles. The Eagles aren't worried about the past. They are dealing with the now and future. Locking up your franchise qb sooner rather than later is a better football and business deal.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 This just feels premature. I understand the financials of the QB pay rising every year. I just think waiting one more year or at least p a mid to late season contract could of accomplished the same result and the team could of seen if Wentz can finish and win in the playoffs.
Mr. WEO Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 Just now, JohnC said: The Eagles aren't worried about the past. They are dealing with the now and future. Locking up your franchise qb sooner rather than later is a better football and business deal. That made more sense when Foles was their money backup. But I hear you. Eagles were stuck paying Wentz that crazy money. 1
hemma Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 would seem to me that the players’ union would want to restrict any max contract to no more than .... say ....11% of cap, so that the rest would be spread out among the rest of the team. not sure if I’m a closet communist or just jealous of somebody getting 30 mill for playing a game. 1
Augie Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, hemma said: would seem to me that the players’ union would want to restrict any max contract to no more than .... say ....11% of cap, so that the rest would be spread out among the rest of the team. not sure if I’m a closet communist or just jealous of somebody getting 30 mill for playing a game. No, I can see some limit for the good of the game. I don’t resent anyone for what they make....good for them! But it’s best if you can balance the league/teams/positions IMO. . Edited June 7, 2019 by Augie 4
LSHMEAB Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: That made more sense when Foles was their money backup. But I hear you. Eagles were stuck paying Wentz that crazy money. Here we go again.
NoSaint Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I'm a big time Wentz believer. My only point is that it would seem to make sense in this situation to wait it out. I assume he's got through 2019-20 as well as a team option for 2020-21. The counter is that the contract he'd receiver after 2 healthy, productive seasons would be more expensive and more importantly, include more years. They're betting on Wentz staying healthy. If he's fully healthy, he'll be one of the best QB's in the NFL. They've been a smart organization for several years, so I'm not gonna go out of my way second guessing their strategy. Still, I'd have waited. Essentially 3 years guaranteed here... and at absolute minimum even with injury this year you are paying him for 2-3 years quite simply put- they’d pay him lots of this even in a bad scenario with another partial season, barring horrific career ending injury. Doing it now might actually get them out earlier if needed when compared to giving him a similar deal next year anyway Edited June 7, 2019 by NoSaint 1 1
Doc Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 Why the urgency to pay him now? The guy has missed significant portions of the past 2 seasons and had a 2nd overall pick rookie contract. Dumb. 1
TheBeaneBandit Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 Wow. Kinda unworthy of that contract imo. Dudes played what, a year and 3/4 of ball????
John from Riverside Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 A glympse of our future...... This is why we need to draft well so we can afford to pay a QB 40 million a year 2
RememberTheRockpile Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 35 minutes ago, Augie said: But takes the Brady approach and settles for a fraction of what he’s worth in the pursuit of rings! Hey, a guy can hope! . Josh Allen could make some extra income if he starts a side business. He could call it JA17 Sports Therapy Center. 1
ProcessTruster Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 that kind of money really turns me off to the game... I'll follow and all, but that is ridiculous. 2
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 53 minutes ago, Augie said: But takes the Brady approach and settles for a fraction of what he’s worth in the pursuit of rings! Hey, a guy can hope! . ...in this day and age of exorbitant "gimme gimme" Augie, wouldn't surprise me one bit to see this kid offer up a hometown discount and see this club through to the "Promised Land"...just sayin'..... 1
Augie Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...in this day and age of exorbitant "gimme gimme" Augie, wouldn't surprise me one bit to see this kid offer up a hometown discount and see this club through to the "Promised Land"...just sayin'..... Believe me, I get this. But I really don’t know how different my life would be if I made $95 mil over the next 4 years vs $128 mil. I don’t hate them or blame them, but it’s SO MUCH money. I have to respect taking a little less. But I don’t hate taking what you can get. 2
Doc Brown Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: I'm so confused about this contract. Why are they doing this now? To avoid paying even more in the future. They're obviously convinced he's their guy. 1
Buffalo Boy Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Lot's of cash for a guy they have had to bring in a stunt-d**k for the money shot the past two seasons. LOL...Eagles. There you go, coming off half cocked? 1
Mr. WEO Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: There you go, coming off half cocked? Thats what she said 1
Doc Brown Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 Just to show you the ridiculousness of these contracts I found a fun article. We've gone from a quarterback making 1.5 million a year as a record in '86 to the new record of Russell Wilson making 35 million a year with Wentz not far behind. With inflation Kelly's annual salary would be about 3.5 million per year today. Bills Make Kelly NFL's Highest-Paid Player Jim Kelly, record-setting passer in the United States Football League, became the highest-paid player in the National Football League Monday. The Buffalo Bills signed Kelly to a five-year contract that, according to Kelly's agents, is worth between $7.5 million and $8 million. The salary, about $1.5 million a year, is at least $200,000 more than quarterback Joe Montana's annual pay with the San Francisco 49ers. The Bills are hoping to receive instant credibility with fans after winning just 4 of their last 32 games and selling fewer than 20,000 season tickets for the second straight season. Concurrent with Kelly's signing, the Bills announced that they had waived Art Schlichter, former Ohio State and Indianapolis Colts' quarterback. Kelly, who worked with a run-and-shoot offense in the USFL, said he has been practicing the dropback style of passing the Bills use and hopes to be ready to play in about two weeks. "I'm an athlete, I'm a competitor; whatever the situation is, I'm going to give 100%," Kelly said. "I can't promise you a Super Bowl because you're only as good as the people they put around you. If I get some help, I definitely think we can take this team to a championship." Kelly dismissed his past statements about whether he wanted to play in Buffalo or elsewhere, saying, "Right now I'm playing for the Buffalo Bills." Said Buffalo Coach Hank Bullough: "Kelly's our future, because he's given us something to build on. We have that one big block to build on. "He's going to be a great impact player, as much an impact as any player can be. But there's never been the player who's turned everything around in the National Football League." Ralph Wilson, the Bills' owner, challenged Kelly to have a career with Buffalo that would merit his placement on the Bills' "Wall of Fame," which includes O.J. Simpson, Rep. Jack F. Kemp and long-time team executive Patrick J. McGroder Jr. At the Buffalo airport, after a flight from Houston, Kelly stepped off a private plane with Wilson. He posed with a football and a No. 12 jersey before heading downtown in a police-escorted limousine for a news conference. At the podium, where he was joined by his parents, Kelly was flanked by team and city officials before being introduced by Wilson. The Bills have been 2-14 in each of the last two seasons, and their season ticket sales are the lowest in the league. Last season, Buffalo sold just 14,500 season tickets. "Mr. Wilson alluded to the fact that he's sometimes called cheap and he's sometimes castigated for not doing what he can to build a championship team," General Manager Bill Polian said. "The fact that Jim is sitting here to my left is an enduring monument to Ralph Wilson's commitment to building a winner for the city of Buffalo." After news of the signing was made public Monday, lines formed at the box office at 80,290-seat Rich Stadium in suburban Orchard Park. Sales for the Sept. 7 regular-season opener against the New York Jets had reached the 30,000 mark by the end of the day, a team spokesman said. The USFL suspended play two weeks ago after being awarded just $3 in damages in its antitrust suit against the NFL. The New Jersey Generals, who Kelly had joined in a merger with his team, the Houston Gamblers, gave him permission to negotiate elsewhere. Last Tuesday, the Bills announced they would begin negotiations with Kelly, whose rights they held after drafting him out of the University of Miami as their second choice in the first round of the 1983 NFL draft. The pick with which Kelly was chosen was obtained when the Bills traded their rights to Ohio State linebacker Tom Cousineau to the Cleveland Browns in April 1982, a deal that was much-criticized in Buffalo. 2 1 1
Big Turk Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 There goes their window of contention with him eating up that much cap space
Royale with Cheese Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 50 minutes ago, RememberTheRockpile said: Josh Allen could make some extra income if he starts a side business. He could call it JA17 Sports Therapy Center. JA17 Sports Bar.
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