OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 On 6/1/2019 at 1:48 AM, DrDare said: Frank Gore is not a lock, although i wish him luck .........I'd bet his hard nosed prowess and leadership has him pretty damn close......guy is a beastly "young 36"......
Phil The Thrill Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 On 5/29/2019 at 3:53 PM, GunnerBill said: Back, by absolutely NO popular demand, here is Gunner's roster thread. As the regulars among you will recall this isn't just a projection of who makes the roster this is a bit more nuanced. It is trying to categorise the locks, the likelies and the hopefuls. Here is my first stab at categorising the players currently on the Bills' 2019 roster (missed a few out who I consider basically no-hopers but if one flashes I will add in later updates). BLACK - Guaranteed roster spot (excluding major injury or suspension) BLUE - Probable roster spot RED - Fighting for those last few spots All clear? Then let us begin.... Quarterback Josh Allen Matt Barkley Tyree Jackson Running Back LeSean McCoy Devin Singletary Frank Gore Patrick DiMarco T.J Yeldon Marcus Murphy Christian Wade Senorise Perry Tight End Tyler Kroft (remember this is excluding major injury - chance he is IR'd very little chance he is flat out released) Dawson Knox Lee Smith Tommy Sweeney Jason Croom Wide Receivers John Brown Cole Beasley Robert Foster Zay Jones Andre Roberts Isaiah McKenzie Duke Williams David Sills Ray-Ray McCloud Nick Easley Cam Phillips Offensive Line Dion Dawkins Mitch Morse Cody Ford Ty Nsekhe Quinton Spain Jon Feliciano Spencer Long Russell Bodine LeAdrian Waddle Vlad Ducasse Wyatt Teller Conor McDermott Jerimiah Sirles De'Ondre Wesley Ike Boettger Defensive Line Ed Oliver Harrison Phillips Star Lotulelei Jerry Hughes Trent Murphy Jordan Phillips Shaq Lawson Eddie Yarbrough Eli Harold Mike Love Darryl Johnson Terrence Fede Robert Thomas Linebacker Tremaine Edmunds Matt Milano Vosean Joseph Lorenzo Alexander Maurice Alexander Julian Stanford Deon Lacey Tyrel Dodson Corey Thompson Cornerback Tre'Davious White Levi Wallace EJ Gaines Taron Johnson Kevin Johnson Ryan Lewis Lafayette Pitts Denzel Rice Cam Lewis Safety Jordan Poyer Micah Hyde Rafael Bush Jaquan Johnson Siran Neal Dean Marlowe Special Teams Stephen Hauschka Reid Ferguson Cory Carter Corey Bojorquez Chase McLoughlin Before anyone raises it - yes - one of the two punters will likely make the team. But I don't know that either has a leg up at this early stage, both are coming off long term injury and it isn't beyond the realm of possibility they end up bringing in a guy a week or so before the season as they did last year. For these reasons I don't think you can call either of them "probable" at this stage. They are the very definition of battling for a roster spot. That gives me: 31 locks; 13 probables; 9 spots very much up for grabs. Thought interesting to do a comparison with where we were when I started this thread last year (which was later it was the eve of camp so not quite a like for like comparison but close enough). Last year I had: 28 locks; 15 probables; 10 spots up for grabs. Of my 28 locks last year 27 made the 53 (Colton Schmidt didn't though obviously did end up back here for a spell in the course of the season) and of my 15 probables the only two that didn't - AJ McCarron and Marshall Newhouse - were traded away. Okay TBD.... as you always do.... let me have it! Pretty good breakdown. The only thing I might change is safety. From what I’ve read Neal has been getting a lot of work at CB/Nickel. I might put him about Rafael Bush
FearLess Price Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 Looking at this post. Even without the roster talk, just looking at all the names, we are better on paper yhan last year for sure. Should be an exicitng season. Im hyped for that.
Coach Tuesday Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 On 6/2/2019 at 11:46 AM, metzelaars_lives said: I can’t scroll through five pages to see if someone else mentioned it already, but LeSean McCoy is definitely not a lock to make this team. I put his prospects at about 60/40. There are a bunch of players in blue that have a better chance to make the team than McCoy. He should absolutely 1000% be in blue at this stage. Interesting... I could see it.
GunnerBill Posted June 3, 2019 Author Posted June 3, 2019 On 6/2/2019 at 4:46 PM, metzelaars_lives said: I can’t scroll through five pages to see if someone else mentioned it already, but LeSean McCoy is definitely not a lock to make this team. I put his prospects at about 60/40. There are a bunch of players in blue that have a better chance to make the team than McCoy. He should absolutely 1000% be in blue at this stage. I totally disagree. I think unless someone comes and offers a 2nd round pick they intend on McCoy being here. Sal C has said the same a number of times as well. Beane and McDermott were impressed with his leadership last year and they intend on him being here.
Royale with Cheese Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I totally disagree. I think unless someone comes and offers a 2nd round pick they intend on McCoy being here. Sal C has said the same a number of times as well. Beane and McDermott were impressed with his leadership last year and they intend on him being here. I agree and if any RB is on the bubble or blue...I think it's Yeldon.
metzelaars_lives Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I totally disagree. I think unless someone comes and offers a 2nd round pick they intend on McCoy being here. Sal C has said the same a number of times as well. Beane and McDermott were impressed with his leadership last year and they intend on him being here. Does it matter if he's not good at football, as he wasn't last year? You think they'll keep a guy who ordered a hit on his ex-girlfriend solely because of his influence on the younger kids? Again, I think he'll probably make the team but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he didn't. It would surprise me way less than if Gore, Roberts, Murphy, Lawson or Phillips didn't make it, among others. Also, 2nd round pick??? He's worth a fourth max. Probably a fifth. Edited June 4, 2019 by metzelaars_lives
ComradeKayAdams Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 Great thread! Here are my thoughts: 1. The defense looks mostly settled to me. The only real roster battles I see are at DE behind the top 3 (my money is on the rookie Johnson who has the most upside) and big nickel (Bush, Neal, Maurice Alexander the LB). I only see a couple battles for starting positions at DE opposite Hughes (slight edge to Murphy) and CB opposite White (slight edge to Kevin Johnson). 2. I think the interesting battles at OL are more about who starts where and less about who makes the team. My best guess is that they plan to keep 9: 2 pure tackles (Nsekhe, Waddle) + 2 tackles who can play guard (Dawkins, Ford) + 3 interior guys who can play center (Morse, Long, Feliciano) + 2 pure guards (Spain, Teller). 3. At the skill positions on offense, most also seem to be settled in my opinion: 2 QB (Allen, Barkley), 3 RB (McCoy, Gore, Singletary), DiMarco, 4 WR (Jones, Foster, Beasley, Brown), 3 TE (Kroft, Smith, Knox). That means Jackson, Perry, Yeldon, Sills, Williams, McCloud, McKenzie, Roberts, Croom, Sweeney, etc. are all fighting for only 4-6 roster spots with a heavy emphasis on special teams ability and practice squad eligibility. 5. The punter job is definitely up for grabs between Bojorquez and Carter. I'm giving the slight edge to Bojorquez until I see Carter in action. 6. Looking over my current roster predictions, I have the defense mostly returning intact from last year but the offense only returning EIGHT players! Those 8 are Allen, Barkley, McCoy, DiMarco, Jones, Foster, Dawkins, and Teller. 1
GunnerBill Posted June 4, 2019 Author Posted June 4, 2019 4 hours ago, metzelaars_lives said: Does it matter if he's not good at football, as he wasn't last year? You think they'll keep a guy who ordered a hit on his ex-girlfriend solely because of his influence on the younger kids? Again, I think he'll probably make the team but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he didn't. It would surprise me way less than if Gore, Roberts, Murphy, Lawson or Phillips didn't make it, among others. Also, 2nd round pick??? He's worth a fourth max. Probably a fifth. I don't think McCoy was the problem last year. The accusation about his girlfriend is unproven and I agree on what he is worth in a trade but the Bills are not trading him for that. They are only trading him if someone offers way over the odds which I don't forsee and therefore I think he is a lock.
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 I'm not sure Robert Foster is lock just yet, definitely a probable.
metzelaars_lives Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I'm not sure Robert Foster is lock just yet, definitely a probable. Find me a WR in the history of the NFL that had a better rookie season and then didn’t make his team in his second season. He is a 100% lock to make the team, the OP is correct.
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, metzelaars_lives said: Find me a WR in the history of the NFL that had a better rookie season and then didn’t make his team in his second season. He is a 100% lock to make the team, the OP is correct. He was cut once and was the best of the worst WR's in the league. I just don't consider him a lock.
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