Tipping Getting Out of Control

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

Just now, LeviF91 said:

I tip everywhere that has a way to receive it.  If there's a tip jar or one of those POS systems with the flip around iPad something gets added on top.  Ice cream shop, maybe $1 unless I get a cappuccino there too, then $2.  Italian deli where the pretty girl makes my sandwich and cashes me out with her college fund tip jar sitting there, $2 plus whatever coins were in my change.  If I get water or club soda at the bar, $1 for the bartender per drink even though it's free.  Picking up a pizza at my favorite joint and the folks are polite as always, they get a dollar.  A few singles left on the golf cart for the guy hosing it down after a round.  Tip the hotel concierge or front desk attendant for a dinner reservation/recommendation.  If their driving wasn't ridiculous, Uber/Lyft drivers get a minimum $3 tip.  20% BARE MINIMUM if I sit down to eat and be served somewhere unless the service (and really, the service, not the kitchen) really sucks.  $5 to the girl who cuts my hair to make it an even 20.  A fiver to the delivery guy.  All get increased if it's the holidays.

 

Tipping well is a mark of good character and good social graces.  People who suck at tipping suck at life.  End of story. 

[PetermansRedemption]

5 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

I tip everywhere that has a way to receive it.  If there's a tip jar or one of those POS systems with the flip around iPad something gets added on top.  Ice cream shop, maybe $1 unless I get a cappuccino there too, then $2.  Italian deli where the pretty girl makes my sandwich and cashes me out with her college fund tip jar sitting there, $2 plus whatever coins were in my change.  If I get water or club soda at the bar, $1 for the bartender per drink even though it's free.  Picking up a pizza at my favorite joint and the folks are polite as always, they get a dollar.  A few singles left on the golf cart for the guy hosing it down after a round.  Tip the hotel concierge or front desk attendant for a dinner reservation/recommendation.  If their driving wasn't ridiculous, Uber/Lyft drivers get a minimum $3 tip.  20% BARE MINIMUM if I sit down to eat and be served somewhere unless the service (and really, the service, not the kitchen) really sucks.  $5 to the girl who cuts my hair to make it an even 20.  A fiver to the delivery guy.  All get increased if it's the holidays.

 

Tipping well is a mark of good character and good social graces.  People who suck at tipping suck at life.  End of story. 

Here is the reason tipping doesn’t work anymore. Servers know this type of person exists. Tipping is used in the food service industry to provide an incentive for good service. When everyone feels peer pressured into tipping the whole system fails. 

Edited May 28, 2019 by Bills2ref

[LeviF]

Just now, Bills2ref said:

Here is the reason tipping doesn’t work anymore. Servers know this type of person exists. Tipping is used in the food service industry to provide an incentive for good service. When everyone feels peer pressured into tipping the whole system fails. 

 

I'm sure the server will enjoy the food that your lecture on how the tipping system has failed puts on their table.

 

I eat out a lot (job hazard).  The places I frequent, I get impeccable service.  Tell me again how it's not working for me.

[Gugny]

13 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

I tip everywhere that has a way to receive it.  If there's a tip jar or one of those POS systems with the flip around iPad something gets added on top.  Ice cream shop, maybe $1 unless I get a cappuccino there too, then $2.  Italian deli where the pretty girl makes my sandwich and cashes me out with her college fund tip jar sitting there, $2 plus whatever coins were in my change.  If I get water or club soda at the bar, $1 for the bartender per drink even though it's free.  Picking up a pizza at my favorite joint and the folks are polite as always, they get a dollar.  A few singles left on the golf cart for the guy hosing it down after a round.  Tip the hotel concierge or front desk attendant for a dinner reservation/recommendation.  If their driving wasn't ridiculous, Uber/Lyft drivers get a minimum $3 tip.  20% BARE MINIMUM if I sit down to eat and be served somewhere unless the service (and really, the service, not the kitchen) really sucks.  $5 to the girl who cuts my hair to make it an even 20.  A fiver to the delivery guy.  All get increased if it's the holidays.

 

Tipping well is a mark of good character and good social graces.  People who suck at tipping suck at life.  End of story. 

 

I will normally tip when there is a tip jar.  I even tip the people who count my cans when I bring them to the recycling place.  Delivery gets at least $5 (or over $7 when I had a few too many the other night); barber gets $5 every time.  I'm also a 20% minimum at a sit-down meal.

 

I just draw the line at takeout ... but again, I very rarely do takeout.

 

If I go to a pizza joint and have a couple slices there, I'll throw a buck or two in a tip jar even though I'm not being served, per se.

 

 

Edited May 28, 2019 by Gugny
Typo - got a problem with that?

[LeviF]

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I will normally tip when there is a tip jar.  I even tip the people who count my cans when I bring the to they recycling place.  Delivery gets at least $5 (or over $7 when I had a few too many the other night); barber gets $5 every time.  I'm also a 20% minimum at a sit-down meal.

 

I just draw the line at takeout ... but again, I very rarely do takeout.

 

If I go to a pizza joint and have a couple slices there, I'll throw a buck or two in a tip jar even though I'm not being served, per se.

 

I hardly ever get takeout.  I don't even really eat pizza much anymore, to be honest.  Everything I get is delivered, sat down for, or prepared in front of me.  I got a burrito for takeout from a tiny Mexican grocery a month ago, I think I tipped a dollar just because it's basically a one-woman operation and it amused me that she was like 4'5".

Edited May 28, 2019 by LeviF91

[Lurker]

2 hours ago, Mark80 said:

Is it me, or is tipping getting out of control?  Now, I go to a take-out place and they have the Ipad POS terminals that they hand you with tipping options that you have to decide what to tip.  Many with 15% on the low end up to 25%.  For take-out?  Seriously?  This is BS.  

 

Gee.  I always thought that was for return customers who wanted to ensure the cook or counter people wouldn't spit (or worse) on the food purchased by tightfisted customers who say "For take-out?   Seriously?..."

[DC Tom]

17 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

Tipping well is a mark of good character and good social graces.  People who suck at tipping suck at life.  End of story. 

 

Good social graces?  Where, in the SS?  Tipping is racist. 

[BuffaloBill]

13 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

I tip everywhere that has a way to receive it.  If there's a tip jar or one of those POS systems with the flip around iPad something gets added on top.  Ice cream shop, maybe $1 unless I get a cappuccino there too, then $2.  Italian deli where the pretty girl makes my sandwich and cashes me out with her college fund tip jar sitting there, $2 plus whatever coins were in my change.  If I get water or club soda at the bar, $1 for the bartender per drink even though it's free.  Picking up a pizza at my favorite joint and the folks are polite as always, they get a dollar.  A few singles left on the golf cart for the guy hosing it down after a round.  Tip the hotel concierge or front desk attendant for a dinner reservation/recommendation.  If their driving wasn't ridiculous, Uber/Lyft drivers get a minimum $3 tip.  20% BARE MINIMUM if I sit down to eat and be served somewhere unless the service (and really, the service, not the kitchen) really sucks.  $5 to the girl who cuts my hair to make it an even 20.  A fiver to the delivery guy.  All get increased if it's the holidays.

 

Tipping well is a mark of good character and good social graces.  People who suck at tipping suck at life.  End of story. 

 

 

I applaud your sentiment but the OP is also correct in that tipping has gotten out of hand,  The concept comes from sitting down to eat a meal and having a service person wait on you and your guests.  The better the service the better the tip.  Think about a normal waiter / waitress, they have to take the order, handle questions about the menu, deal with requested substitutes, fill or deliver your drinks, bring your food to the table, refill drinks as needed, assure that everyone has what they need, possibly take another round of orders (for desserts) and then assure that all was well which the meal when finished.

 

Compare this to the now ubiquitous tip jars where some person who makes a standard sandwich or burger or whatever expects you to tip them.  As for pick-up food - think about it there is little service involved.

 

With that said, I do tip well for a standard sit down meal, generally, 20%+.  I do not put money in those ubiquitous “tip” cans.  I will tip for pick up but at a lower level as there is some level of service involved in the situation.  

[coloradobillsfan]

 

47 minutes ago, Gugny said:

They're handing you a bag of food.

 

But you had to have the BIG SALAD!

 

[Gugny]

One meal people shouldn't do the general 15%-20% tip on is a diner breakfast.

 

Most diners (real diners) have a breakfast special that includes a couple eggs, homefries, toast, one meat and coffee (free refills) ... all for about $6.  Sometimes I go to breakfast with my dad and my brother; we would never dream of leaving $3-$4 for a total tip. 

 

But I'm sure some do.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I follow the foreign European rule $1 EU

 

Or the countries where No tips allowed

China.

French Polynesia.

Japan. Tipping under any circumstance in Japan may seem rude, because good service is standard and expected. ...

Korea. ...

Hong Kong. ...

Switzerland. ...

Australia. ...

Belgium.

Edited May 28, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan

[PetermansRedemption]

1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

I follow the foreign European rule 

 

No tips allowed or $1 EU

Love how it is done in the EU. Just add a couple bucks to the menu price and pay the server minimum wage or whatever you wish. Don’t leave it up to me to decide what your employee makes. Unfortunately it is too far gone here to ever change the system. 

[LeviF]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

I applaud your sentiment but the OP is also correct in that tipping has gotten out of hand,  The concept comes from sitting down to eat a meal and having a service person wait on you and your guests.  The better the service the better the tip.  Think about a normal waiter / waitress, they have to take the order, handle questions about the menu, deal with requested substitutes, fill or deliver your drinks, bring your food to the table, refill drinks as needed, assure that everyone has what they need, possibly take another round of orders (for desserts) and then assure that all was well which the meal when finished.

 

Compare this to the now ubiquitous tip jars where some person who makes a standard sandwich or burger or whatever expects you to tip them.  As for pick-up food - think about it there is little service involved.

 

With that said, I do tip well for a standard sit down meal, generally, 20%+.  I do not put money in those ubiquitous “tip” cans.  I will tip for pick up but at a lower level as there is some level of service involved in the situation.  

 

I've had all sorts of service jobs in my time, including serving and bartending.  I understand the differences.  I guess I just don't get how a tip jar automatically means the worker  was "expecting" or "demanding" a tip.  Maybe someone can explain that one to me.

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

I've had all sorts of service jobs in my time, including serving and bartending.  I understand the differences.  I guess I just don't get how a tip jar automatically means the worker  was "expecting" or "demanding" a tip.  Maybe someone can explain that one to me.

 

 

Maybe it comes down to  -   Wanting to and being forced to.  

 

[plenzmd1]

15 minutes ago, Gugny said:

One meal people shouldn't do the general 15%-20% tip on is a diner breakfast.

 

Most diners (real diners) have a breakfast special that includes a couple eggs, homefries, toast, one meat and coffee (free refills) ... all for about $6.  Sometimes I go to breakfast with my dad and my brother; we would never dream of leaving $3-$4 for a total tip. 

 

But I'm sure some do.

so $20 , three plates to fetch and clear, coffe water cups refilled..and you will not tip $1 a piece? Man, that's some major league tightness there!!!

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said:

so $20 , three plates to fetch and clear, coffe water cups refilled..and you will not tip $1 a piece? Man, that's some major league tightness there!!!

 

Hey, man.  She chose to be a breakfast waitress!

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

low blow ...  funny but still a low blow 

 

[LeviF]

11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

Maybe it comes down to  -   Wanting to and being forced to.  

 

 

Now you're being forced to tip if there's a tip jar?  JFC, if you really feel that way about it you're not forced to go there to begin with, exercise that choice.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

Used to be a waiter during college.  There was a family that used to come in for dinner every Friday night at 9:30 (we closed at 10:00).  They weren’t jerks like some customers, but we used to fight over who had to wait on them. There were usually 6 or 7 of them, and their check would typically be north of $200.  Problem was, for their tip they would always leave $5 and a Jesus pamphlet.  I wanted to put rat poison in their food most nights.

[BuffaloBill]

12 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Used to be a waiter during college.  There was a family that used to come in for dinner every Friday night at 9:30 (we closed at 10:00).  They weren’t jerks like some customers, but we used to fight over who had to wait on them. There were usually 6 or 7 of them, and their check would typically be north of $200.  Problem was, for their tip they would always leave $5 and a Jesus pamphlet.  I wanted to put rat poison in their food most nights.

 

 

I have worked in foodservice also and it’s the reason why I generally tip well and I do not send food back unless there is something clearly wrong with it.  I’ve heard what can happen to returning lousy tippers or picky people.  It’s not pretty (and no, I never did anything disgusting - there were stories aplenty).