OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 3:26 PM, Jay_Fixit said: Mark Clayton is more HOF worthy. Expand ...before Marshawn??.........
Mister Defense Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 He seemed like he was missing that edge, sometimes seeming lackadaisical even in big games. Maybe a bit like Bledsoe? He was a good player, very good maybe, but not an NFL Hall of Fame caliber player. 1
NoSaint Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 9:40 PM, Gugny said: McNabb is a first ballot Hall of Very Good candidate. He's not a Hall of Famer. Expand Bingo.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 11:08 AM, Binghamton Beast said: Donovan McNabb couldn’t carry Big Ben’s jockstrap. Expand ..LMAO....'Cuse on the Loose (lipped)"............... 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 No but he had a better career (better number than Jim Kelly) than most people realize. Always seemed to come up short in big spots thought. And if TO was such a selfish prick, they could have be a special combo. Also, he stole pizza from me at Syracuse football camp. That alone disqualifies him. On 5/25/2019 at 10:05 AM, oldmanfan said: Not even close to being worthy Expand https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaDo00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KellJi00.htm
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 ...lay low and let the Hall decide or even the Vet Committee versus self proclaimed validity......how long did it take Art Monk?.....
row_33 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 9:41 PM, Albany,n.y. said: Troy Aikman Super Bowl wins 3, Donovan McNabb Super Bowl wins 0 Another reason to never use QB stats when comparing careers. Expand Have to think about it for more than 2 seconds? no.... have to use somewhat useful stats to back it up? ***** no....
oldmanfan Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 4:57 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: No but he had a better career (better number than Jim Kelly) than most people realize. Always seemed to come up short in big spots thought. And if TO was such a selfish prick, they could have be a special combo. Also, he stole pizza from me at Syracuse football camp. That alone disqualifies him. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaDo00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KellJi00.htm Expand Numbers are not the whole story.
/dev/null Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) On 5/25/2019 at 4:33 AM, TheBrownBear said: Do you guys think Big Ben is a HOFer? I think he and McNabb had basically the same level of impact on a game. Expand Big Ben has two Super Bowl rings, three AFC titles, engineered a game winning drive in a Super Bowl, and almost pulled off a Super Bowl comeback drive against Green Bay. McNabb puked in the Super Bowl. Literally https://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Yes_McNabb_puked_at_Super_Bowl_ex-fullback_says.html Edited May 25, 2019 by /dev/null
ExWNYer Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 9:46 PM, whatdrought said: 5 out of 4 Philadelphians said no and that’s he’s garbage. Expand In fairness, these are the same fans who booed when McNabb was drafted because they wanted Ricky Williams (how did that one work out for Mike Ditka?). That said, I agree with the many who have already stated that McNabb belongs in the 'Hall of Very Good'. To me, he was the precursor to an Andy Dalton type...good enough to keep you competitive but not good enough to take you to 'The Promised Land'. 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 5:29 PM, oldmanfan said: Numbers are not the whole story. Expand Agreed but it gives context. Those Bills teams were absolutely loaded. Kelly was kinda terrible in the playoffs. It wasnt to put down Kelly but McNabb is much closer to Kelly than some folks will admit here. He had a very good career. Not HOF but very good. To completely dismiss him is wrong. On 5/24/2019 at 11:44 PM, LSHMEAB said: He averaged roughly 23 TD's and 10 picks a season in a pass happy Andy Reid offense. He was a solid runner, but he also took a ton of sacks behind a decent line. Much of that can be attributed to his subpar offensive weapons, but he held on to the ball way too long for my taste. Maybe better than good all things considered, but not a HOF'er. Fair or not, a Superbowl win would probably give him a stronger case, so I agree with you there. Expand Fair points. I also remember besides that year with TO he had some garbage receivers - James Thrash, Freddie Mitchell. Absolute trash for a while. 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 9:46 PM, whatdrought said: 5 out of 4 Philadelphians said no and that’s he’s garbage. Expand 5 out of 4 philly people are morons. ? On 5/24/2019 at 9:41 PM, Albany,n.y. said: Troy Aikman Super Bowl wins 3, Donovan McNabb Super Bowl wins 0 Another reason to never use QB stats when comparing careers. Expand I’m not sure what this means. Do you think Joe Flacco and Eli Manning are better than Jim Kelly and Dan Marino?
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 5:33 PM, ExWNYer said: In fairness, these are the same fans who booed when McNabb was drafted because they wanted Ricky Williams (how did that one work out for Mike Ditka?). That said, I agree with the many who have already stated that McNabb belongs in the 'Hall of Very Good'. To me, he was the precursor to an Andy Dalton type...good enough to keep you competitive but not good enough to take you to 'The Promised Land'. Expand Good points. I think McNabb is better than Dalton (went to a Sb and like 4 title games) but also feel Dalton gets slighted. If Allen had Dalton’s career stat wise, I think we would take it.
auburnbillsbacker Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 If Eli gets in McNabb should get in. He was better.
Albany,n.y. Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 6:11 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: 5 out of 4 philly people are morons. ? I’m not sure what this means. Do you think Joe Flacco and Eli Manning are better than Jim Kelly and Dan Marino? Expand It means 3 Super Bowl wins by a QB punch an automatic ticket to the HOF.
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 6:22 PM, auburnbillsbacker said: If Eli gets in McNabb should get in. He was better. Expand You are 100% right. Eli kinda sucked for a long time. But those 2 wins get you in. If McNabb got 1, he would be in. On 5/25/2019 at 6:25 PM, Albany,n.y. said: It means 3 Super Bowl wins by a QB punch an automatic ticket to the HOF. Expand Gotcha. I was young for the Aikman years and thought he was much better than he ended up being. His numbers kinda sucked. But he played on one of the most loaded teams of all time.
Walking Tall Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 4:57 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: No but he had a better career (better number than Jim Kelly) than most people realize. Always seemed to come up short in big spots thought. And if TO was such a selfish prick, they could have be a special combo. Also, he stole pizza from me at Syracuse football camp. That alone disqualifies him. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaDo00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KellJi00.htm Expand You just don’t get football history. Everything is not numbers in black and white. 2
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