IgotBILLStopay Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 One team ahead of us in the draft - another behind us. https://deadspin.com/adam-gase-and-the-jets-have-had-a-crazy-ass-week-1834849656 Quote 5. Also, just before the draft, per Breer: “The coaches ranked Quinnen Williams above Houston DT Ed Oliver, but gushed over Oliver in meetings. This was seen, again, as coaches covering themselves on both ends of a decision, this time openly lusting for one player while toeing the line on the league-wide consensus that the other was better.” https://thefalconswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/23/falcons-free-agency-gerald-mccoy-interest/ Quote It’s no secret that Atlanta was pining after Ed Oliver in the draft. While the board did not fall their way, adding another strong interior lineman next to Grady Jarrett is still one of the best moves the team could make to improve defensively. I dont believe it. Not for a Minute. You are under the Gun .... But .. you also have this https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/the_nfl_draft_prospects_most_likely_to_bust/s1_13132_28896110 Quote Oliver might be the biggest boom-or-bust candidate in this entire class. His athleticism has warranted some scouts to compare him to Aaron Donald, but Oliver is even more undersized than Donald was, as his playing weight was reportedly under 285 pounds. Because of that lack of size, some have called for Oliver to switch to linebacker. In the right scheme — where he can play nose tackle in a three-technique — Oliver could become an All-Pro. Teams may also discover this fall that he is a major project who has to switch positions if he can’t handle NFL-sized offensive linemen. 1
BillsFan17 Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 Its funny, that we still use measurables to translate success. Yes, you want the athletics to mesh with off the chart measurables... however, we have seen the league transition and have seen all types of players flourish. I mean, Aaron Donald was undersized for his position when drafted, until he wasnt because of his dominant play. End of the day, quality players will shine regardless. 9 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/the_nfl_draft_prospects_most_likely_to_bust/s1_13132_28896110 That third one is my worry. NFL guards are just going to decimate the guy. He's REALLY light. 2
John from Riverside Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) Aaron Donald shows as 6 foot 1 inch 285 pounds How is Oliver "even more undersized" then Aaron? Oliver's Combine numbers show him as 6 foot 1 287 pounds Edited May 24, 2019 by John from Riverside 7 4
Jay_Fixit Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 Here’s a tidbit about Ed Oliver. ”He’s very good” said Jay_Fixit. 5 10
TPS Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 I didn't see this "highlight" video on OBD until a few days ago. The last play has me worried....if he can't beat a triple team, he's a bust... 13 1
Royale with Cheese Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 It would be great to just have a player play the position we drafted him for. Seems there’s always talk about moving them around. 1
WideNine Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Its funny, that we still use measurables to translate success. Yes, you want the athletics to mesh with off the chart measurables... however, we have seen the league transition and have seen all types of players flourish. I mean, Aaron Donald was undersized for his position when drafted, until he wasnt because of his dominant play. End of the day, quality players will shine regardless. And switching him to LB because there are so many 285 lb linebackers out there. I think he will be fine in the schemes that the Bills use. There will be times that bigger o-linemen will get into his chest and he will lose some of those matchups, but pretty confident he will have more wins than losses.
Patrick Duffy Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 Oliver will be just fine. *Calling it now, Ed Oliver gets the 1st QB sack of the season* ?
Royale with Cheese Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) Absurd. Edited May 24, 2019 by Royale with Cheese 14 1 2
1ManRaid Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 Remember when we were widely criticized for moving the "undersized" Kyle Williams to nose tackle for a while? He only became a top 3 rated NT for the snaps he was there because of his ABILITY and motor. 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Absurd. Pfft, I bet he only blows through triple teams, like, half the time. 1 2
Patrick Duffy Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Absurd. Damn, he's getting held and triple teamed and still manages to get good pressure. 2
Stank_Nasty Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: That third one is my worry. NFL guards are just going to decimate the guy. He's REALLY light. ya OKAY...… whatever you say, Chief. 2
ExWNYer Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 What are 'titbits'? Was there a 'nip slip' that the media failed to report? 2 2
Stank_Nasty Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: yeah, OKAY...… whatever you say, Chief.
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: That third one is my worry. NFL guards are just going to decimate the guy. He's REALLY light. That's what they said about Aaron Donald; how did that work out? Height used to be important for QBs too, but thats out the window now. The game changes; try to keep up. 2
thebandit27 Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Absurd. Edited May 24, 2019 by thebandit27
Royale with Cheese Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Let's keep this going! There are so many! 1
Mark Vader Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Aaron Donald shows as 6 foot 1 inch 285 pounds How is Oliver "even more undersized" then Aaron? Oliver's Combine numbers show him as 6 foot 1 287 pounds They say that, because Aaron Donald has proven himself in the NFL.
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