LSHMEAB Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 4:18 PM, YattaOkasan said: You should check the article @thebandit27 linked. The eye popping part to me was that Pats averaged 3 ypc in the middle and 10 to the left outside and 6 to the right outside, iirc. Also the article clearly showed Star being doubled, chipped, or trapped (Belicheck game planned for star in the middle of the field, rather than let just let Mason take him 1v1). Star doesnt seem to be the reason we got ran over in that game. Expand Ok. So the link is interesting and does provide some insight. There were several occasions in which Star was doubled and several where he was not. What I do notice is that the double teams don't last long. They pretty quickly have him contained and one of the blockers moves on to a secondary target. So while that does provide value in slowing the play down, I don't see it as a traditional double. He clogs space. I get that. It'd be great if he could clog space and get a few TFL's or maybe even a sack. His teammates speak glowingly of him, so there's that. And I remember the game well. Cordarrelle Patterson was out there looking like Todd Gurley. Seems to me that BB took advantage of Edmunds youth as well as Milano's absence.
CuddyDark Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 7:31 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....so why not?......was it with purpose or for the helluva it?....don't get your point here..... Expand Because it doesn't matter. We are where he wanted us to be. How and why is irrelevant.
3rdand12 Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 4:30 PM, ScottLaw said: Nah. That game was basically Edmunds looking completely lost. Expand yep. among other games. But Bill B. was out to mess with Edmunds head that game ! disguise the play and also attack him. I have spoken to friend who are Bills fans about the run game and Star. slow start once brought in but he played stronger over time. IMO and is a key role player Edmunds was a work in progress with a lot on his plate last year. If the Linebackers stay disciplined in the run game this year ? The D line will start looking good too. I kept saying last year, move Edmunds back one more yard off the LOS. He moves so fast to the ball anyways, give him more time to diagnose his gap and improve stack and shed skills. LBs in the run was where i fell Bills were weak last year. and i expect to see improvement this season. so about Kroft ? Any updates? Do Bills think he will be up to speed by season. new boo boo foot on the roster ? lol On 5/24/2019 at 8:21 PM, fansince88 said: I know this is page 14 so I thought I would remind you all of the subject line: Breaking: Kroft breaks foot Not a thing in that title about Buddy or Whaley Expand maybe you should mind your own business Mister Man ! Kroft who ? Tyler ? the TE ? oh that guy .. 1
YattaOkasan Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 10:43 PM, LSHMEAB said: Ok. So the link is interesting and does provide some insight. There were several occasions in which Star was doubled and several where he was not. What I do notice is that the double teams don't last long. They pretty quickly have him contained and one of the blockers moves on to a secondary target. So while that does provide value in slowing the play down, I don't see it as a traditional double. He clogs space. I get that. It'd be great if he could clog space and get a few TFL's or maybe even a sack. His teammates speak glowingly of him, so there's that. And I remember the game well. Cordarrelle Patterson was out there looking like Todd Gurley. Seems to me that BB took advantage of Edmunds youth as well as Milano's absence. Expand Yup they were definitely not all doubles. The others are chip blocks. It could explain why LBs had trouble flowing to the outside but star did seem to hold the middle down based on the ypc. 1
LSHMEAB Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 10:56 PM, YattaOkasan said: Yup they were definitely not all doubles. The others are chip blocks. It could explain why LBs had trouble flowing to the outside but star did seem to hold the middle down based on the ypc. Expand I didn't want to use the word chip because some of them seemed to be somewhere between a double and a chip. I have waaaaay too much time on my hands! 1
fansince88 Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 10:46 PM, 3rdand12 said: maybe you should mind your own business Mister Man ! Kroft who ? Tyler ? the TE ? oh that guy .. Expand Yer parbly right
KC22 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 Sorry if this has been addressed, but is Kroft's injury a fifth metatarsal fracture? (Jones fracture)
3rdand12 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 11:42 PM, fansince88 said: Yer parbly right Expand I respect your opinions and dialogue. : ) Thanks for the chuckles as well ! On 5/25/2019 at 2:04 PM, KC22 said: Sorry if this has been addressed, but is Kroft's injury a fifth metatarsal fracture? (Jones fracture) Expand It is a bad look when same foot. 1
fansince88 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 10:39 PM, 3rdand12 said: I respect your opinions and dialogue. : ) Thanks for the chuckles as well ! Expand I do my best to realize that although I enjoy football and root for the Bills this isnt my life. At nearly 49, my kids grown, and most likely more life behind me then ahead.. it helps to laugh and make others do the same. Till we meet someday!
3rdand12 Posted May 26, 2019 Posted May 26, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 10:58 PM, fansince88 said: I do my best to realize that although I enjoy football and root for the Bills this isnt my life. At nearly 49, my kids grown, and most likely more life behind me then ahead.. it helps to laugh and make others do the same. Till we meet someday! Expand well said ! Cheers !!! and of course.. Go Bills
aristocrat Posted June 1, 2019 Posted June 1, 2019 On 6/1/2019 at 12:59 PM, ALF said: Kansas City Chiefs: Moving on from Mitch Morse not surprising The second reason the Chiefs moved on is because of Morse being injury prone. The sole reason Reiter got to prove himself in the starting center role is because Morse was banged up all the time https://kckingdom.com/2019/03/12/kansas-city-chiefs-moving-on-from-mitch-morse-not-surprising/ $26M guaranteed https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/mitch-morse-16773/ Expand The article is two months old
Doc Posted June 1, 2019 Posted June 1, 2019 Reiter hasn’t played nearly enough to know if he’s good, much injury prone.
BuffaloBill Posted June 1, 2019 Posted June 1, 2019 On 6/1/2019 at 12:59 PM, ALF said: Kansas City Chiefs: Moving on from Mitch Morse not surprising The second reason the Chiefs moved on is because of Morse being injury prone. The sole reason Reiter got to prove himself in the starting center role is because Morse was banged up all the time https://kckingdom.com/2019/03/12/kansas-city-chiefs-moving-on-from-mitch-morse-not-surprising/ $26M guaranteed https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/mitch-morse-16773/ Expand What is this in a Kroft thread?
Lurker Posted June 1, 2019 Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) On 5/25/2019 at 2:04 PM, KC22 said: Sorry if this has been addressed, but is Kroft's injury a fifth metatarsal fracture? (Jones fracture) Expand I hope not. If it is, it's definitely not good for his future: "...The principal findings of this study demonstrated that players with a previous Jones fracture performed worse within the first 2 years in the NFL than controls, with a significant difference demonstrated for defensive linemen and running backs. On CT scans, the plantar (18/32; 56.3%) and lateral (15/32; 46.9%) cortices were frequently not healed. A lower CT score, as determined by the described method, was associated with fewer games started (2.7 vs 17.4 for score <1 vs 1-3, respectively)" "...Refractures and nonunion after a Jones fracture remain major concerns for NFL players.9 Wright et al23reported on 3 football players who suffered fifth metatarsal refractures on the first day back to full activity, despite the appearance of complete healing radiographically and clinically. " "...Based on CT, 50% of all players with a previous Jones fracture demonstrated incomplete healing. Moreover, position-specific performance scores over the first 2 years of a player’s career were lower across all positions for those with fractures compared with controls. " https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6113739/ EDIT: After further reading, it seems that in cases where players refractured the fifth metatarsal after initial surgery, insertion of larger screws fixed the problem and they were able to return in 6-10 weeks. I hope this is the case with Kroft... Edited June 1, 2019 by Lurker 1 1
BillsfaninChicago Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 Yikes on me! I forgot he broke his foot when I saw this bumped up I thought it just happened today at camp. I promise to pay closer attention to off season news going forward.
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