Foxx Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) without a vote, it could be argued that this is all at the whim of Pelosi and Schiff and that they do not represent the will of the House. have a vote and put it all on record so we know that this isn't a witchhunt on behalf of one or two Dems. Edited October 8, 2019 by Foxx 4
Tiberius Posted October 8, 2019 Author Posted October 8, 2019 He's a criminal, sucking off dictators asking for help, he is unAmerican, corrupt, a sh it head to boot, but you are upset by the process, ya whatever
Deranged Rhino Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 Tibs began 2017 promising Trump was a traitor and would be arrested. Tibs began 2018 promising the same. Tibs found out in 2019 conclusively that Trump was not a traitor and wouldn't be arrested. Now, he's just angry that he was lied to, misled, and propagandized by the very same people telling him today that "THIS TIME WE GOT TRUMP!" ************* Could be fun 3 1 2
Koko78 Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Foxx said: thread. https://twitter.com/dsamuelsohn/status/1181553977160286208 Read some of his stream. It's interesting, but I'm not sure how the House attorneys are going to get around Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6, which severely limits who Grand Jury information may be disclosed to. Congress (even in a purported impeachment inquiry) is not one of the listed exceptions. The DOJ attorney was correct: if Congress wants Mueller's Grand Jury materials, they need to change the law. 1 2
Foxx Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Read some of his stream. It's interesting, but I'm not sure how the House attorneys are going to get around Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6, which severely limits who Grand Jury information may be disclosed to. Congress (even in a purported impeachment inquiry) is not one of the listed exceptions. The DOJ attorney was correct: if Congress wants Mueller's Grand Jury materials, they need to change the law. it will be interesting to see whether or not his ruling includes anything on the current environment under which an, 'impeachment inquiry' is being conducted. and whether or not it can be considered anything but a ruse without a vote to understand exactly where the House stands and that it just not just the whims of the Speaker. Edited October 8, 2019 by Foxx
DC Tom Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Koko78 said: Read some of his stream. It's interesting, but I'm not sure how the House attorneys are going to get around Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6 Probably just have @Crayola64 file a motion...
Numark3 Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Probably just have @Crayola64 file a motion... oh I have someone else file my motions, maybe I can pass it along!
B-Man Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 Quote Josh HolmesVerified account @HolmesJosh 19m19 minutes ago The White House has a pretty strong process argument against House Dems. If you want the gravity of impeachment proceedings you certainly can’t conduct them on the sly. . 1 1
njbuff Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Tibs began 2017 promising Trump was a traitor and would be arrested. Tibs began 2018 promising the same. Tibs found out in 2019 conclusively that Trump was not a traitor and wouldn't be arrested. Now, he's just angry that he was lied to, misled, and propagandized by the very same people telling him today that "THIS TIME WE GOT TRUMP!" ************* Could be fun No, he is just your typical braindead lib. I know too many of them. You call yourself Deranged, but these people take the cake, and I wish I was kidding. 1 1
Deranged Rhino Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, Hedge said: Looks like Gowdy really is "stepping into a new role". (Almost a 11 months to the day from #2462) 2
Deranged Rhino Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 https://mobile.twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1181641767755620352 5
B-Man Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://mobile.twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1181641767755620352 1 3 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 8 pages!!! Dear Madam Speaker and Messrs. Chairmen: I write on behalf of President Donald J. Trump in response to your numerous, legally unsupported demands made as part of what you have labeled contrary to the Constitution of the United States and all past bipartisan precedent-as an "impeachment inquiry." As you know, you have designed and implemented your inquiry in a maimer that violates fundamental fairness and constitutionally mandated due process. For example, you have denied the President the right to cross-examine witnesses, to call witnesses, to receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence, to have counsel present, and many other basic rights guaranteed to all Americans. You have conducted your proceedings in secret. You have violated civil liberties and the separation of powers by threatening Executive Branch officials, claiming that you will seek to punish those who exercise fundamental constitutional rights and prerogatives. All of this violates the Constitution, the rule of law, and every past precedent. Never before in our history has the House of Representatives-under the control of either political party-taken the American people down the dangerous path you seem determined to pursue. </snip> 4 2
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: 8 pages!!! Dear Madam Speaker and Messrs. Chairmen: I write on behalf of President Donald J. Trump in response to your numerous, legally unsupported demands made as part of what you have labeled contrary to the Constitution of the United States and all past bipartisan precedent-as an "impeachment inquiry." As you know, you have designed and implemented your inquiry in a maimer that violates fundamental fairness and constitutionally mandated due process. For example, you have denied the President the right to cross-examine witnesses, to call witnesses, to receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence, to have counsel present, and many other basic rights guaranteed to all Americans. You have conducted your proceedings in secret. You have violated civil liberties and the separation of powers by threatening Executive Branch officials, claiming that you will seek to punish those who exercise fundamental constitutional rights and prerogatives. All of this violates the Constitution, the rule of law, and every past precedent. Never before in our history has the House of Representatives-under the control of either political party-taken the American people down the dangerous path you seem determined to pursue. </snip> Right, but we should uphold our principles in the face of an unprincipled enemy. It's madness.
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Right, but we should uphold our principles in the face of an unprincipled enemy. It's madness. Then what the hell makes you different, and why should I support one over the other rather than bidding my time and shooting at both?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Then what the hell makes you different, and why should I support one over the other rather than bidding my time and shooting at both? Because if you stand by and do nothing (based on principles) the unprincipled enemy WILL win and you'll lose anyway. Get it?
Tiberius Posted October 9, 2019 Author Posted October 9, 2019 Lindsey Graham wants to call Rudy G to testify in the Senate? Please yes!
3rdnlng Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: 8 pages!!! Dear Madam Speaker and Messrs. Chairmen: I write on behalf of President Donald J. Trump in response to your numerous, legally unsupported demands made as part of what you have labeled contrary to the Constitution of the United States and all past bipartisan precedent-as an "impeachment inquiry." As you know, you have designed and implemented your inquiry in a maimer that violates fundamental fairness and constitutionally mandated due process. For example, you have denied the President the right to cross-examine witnesses, to call witnesses, to receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence, to have counsel present, and many other basic rights guaranteed to all Americans. You have conducted your proceedings in secret. You have violated civil liberties and the separation of powers by threatening Executive Branch officials, claiming that you will seek to punish those who exercise fundamental constitutional rights and prerogatives. All of this violates the Constitution, the rule of law, and every past precedent. Never before in our history has the House of Representatives-under the control of either political party-taken the American people down the dangerous path you seem determined to pursue. </snip> This was an easy read. Important, but easy. 1
Koko78 Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: 8 pages!!! Dear Madam Speaker and Messrs. Chairmen: I write on behalf of President Donald J. Trump in response to your numerous, legally unsupported demands made as part of what you have labeled contrary to the Constitution of the United States and all past bipartisan precedent-as an "impeachment inquiry." As you know, you have designed and implemented your inquiry in a maimer that violates fundamental fairness and constitutionally mandated due process. For example, you have denied the President the right to cross-examine witnesses, to call witnesses, to receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence, to have counsel present, and many other basic rights guaranteed to all Americans. You have conducted your proceedings in secret. You have violated civil liberties and the separation of powers by threatening Executive Branch officials, claiming that you will seek to punish those who exercise fundamental constitutional rights and prerogatives. All of this violates the Constitution, the rule of law, and every past precedent. Never before in our history has the House of Representatives-under the control of either political party-taken the American people down the dangerous path you seem determined to pursue. </snip> In a maimer?
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