loyal2dagame Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 Translation of Allen's comments: Kelvin Benjamin couldn't catch a cold if he was standing outside naked with a hose spraying on him in the middle of a Buffalo winter. 1 5 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...pretty sure it has been published that he has been working with Jordan Palmer during the off season.....just a speculative hunch, but I get the feel that this kid is committed to excellence and fulfilling those hoping he IS the franchise QB.... He has. But IIRC many of the new guys weren’t available. 1
Capco Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 29 minutes ago, WhoTom said: That's a very diplomatic way of saying, "You saw the receivers we had last year. Would you throw to them in tight coverage?" That's exactly what I thought when I read it lol. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: The O-Line doesn't really take long to come together like other positions. You should see the improvement immediately. This year the team will only be as good as him, everything around him is in place. this stands in contrast to what most football pundits, including OLmen themselves and offensive coaches, say 7 3 5
Bob in STL Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: The O-Line doesn't really take long to come together like other positions. You should see the improvement immediately. This year the team will only be as good as him, everything around him is in place. You will see improvement immediately because they were terrible last year. The OL does indeed take time time to come together. Line calls, signals, and just getting five players to be in sync blocking versus stunts and disguised defensive fronts takes time. Once real bullets fly you will see some OL mistakes but by mid season you will see less. Since quite a few of the new guys are vets that is encouraging. Edited May 19, 2019 by Bob in STL 3
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said: Translation of Allen's comments: Kelvin Benjamin couldn't catch a cold if he was standing outside naked with a hose spraying on him in the middle of a Buffalo winter. There's that. But there's also, there were a few plays every game where it was pretty clear other WR were not running the route JA expected. (one can't always say who made the correct route choice for coverage, but where one can, it was not always the WR's mistake) 1
Ittakestime Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 One big issue, Tanner Gentry is a guy you would say had good chemistry with Allen in college, you watch Allens college games and he wouldn't throw to him in tight coverages either. It's the type of QB he is. He holds onto the ball till a guy gets open
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said: The O-Line doesn't really take long to come together like other positions. You should see the improvement immediately. This year the team will only be as good as him, everything around him is in place. ...biggest crock of crap on the planet.....to borrow Cowher's OL assessment...."THE most important UNIT on the football field....if it breaks down as a UNIT, all else fails".....significant learning curve for individuals to get familiar with mates' tendencies before they jell as a UNIT......you think for one damn minute the NFL HOF stalwart tandems like Hitch/Jones or Shell/Upshaw developed their nuances OVERNIGHT?.....why did our OL nose dive with Richie's demise? CERTAINLY could NOT have had anything to do with establishing left side OL rhythm over time....it's just "plug 'n play" as your suggest (oh boy)...... 3
Boca BIlls Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: this stands in contrast to what most football pundits, including OLmen themselves and offensive coaches, say Not really just look at when teams upgrade O-Line 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Chill said: Honeymoon is over, expectations have risen. No more excuses for Josh. The pieces are in place, it’s time to produce. ...honeymoon?.....seriously?.....baseless thoughts like these should never be posted, but thanks anyway for the lengthy dissertation...... 2
Boca BIlls Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...biggest crock of crap on the planet.....to borrow Cowher's OL assessment...."THE most important UNIT on the football field....if it breaks down as a UNIT, all else fails".....significant learning curve for individuals to get familiar with mates' tendencies before they jell as a UNIT......you think for one damn minute the NFL HOF stalwart tandems like Hitch/Jones or Shell/Upshaw developed their nuances OVERNIGHT?.....why did our OL nose dive with Richie's demise? CERTAINLY could NOT have had anything to do with establishing left side OL rhythm over time....it's just "plug 'n play" as your suggest (oh boy)...... Andrew Luck and the Colts would disagree. Stop being so angry. Couple people here attacking anyone that doesn't think just like them. Sad and pathetic. Edited May 19, 2019 by Boca BIlls
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: this stands in contrast to what most football pundits, including OLmen themselves and offensive coaches, say 100% accurate. I only played into college division 2 and I will tell you oline can take the longest to play together as a unit. Five different people all have to do their job or it can impact every other persons performance. QB is the most singular important position in football but oline is the most important position group. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Andrew Luck and the Colts would disagree. Stop being so angry. Couple people here attacking anyone that doesn't think just like them. Sad and pathetic. ...um...ok....you win...... 1
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...biggest crock of crap on the planet.....to borrow Cowher's OL assessment...."THE most important UNIT on the football field....if it breaks down as a UNIT, all else fails".....significant learning curve for individuals to get familiar with mates' tendencies before they jell as a UNIT......you think for one damn minute the NFL HOF stalwart tandems like Hitch/Jones or Shell/Upshaw developed their nuances OVERNIGHT?.....why did our OL nose dive with Richie's demise? CERTAINLY could NOT have had anything to do with establishing left side OL rhythm over time....it's just "plug 'n play" as your suggest (oh boy)...... forget to take your meds? edit: I do agree with the fact the O line will and should take time to gel. hopefully not a whole season, maybe sooner? Edited May 19, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973 1 1 1
Chill Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) The thing with Josh is that he’s young. As he gains more experience he will mature; hopefully into a great player. Excuses will just hinder his development. Second year, he will be treated differently, by the coaching staff, players, fans etc. No more rookie coddling. This year is the time to prove his potential. Edited May 19, 2019 by Chill
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 Just now, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: forget to take your meds? ....double every day post draft.............care to borrow some?..... 1
BobChalmers Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: That's a very diplomatic way of saying, "You saw the receivers we had last year. Would you throw to them in tight coverage?" Spot on. 24 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: I didn't even notice that he was being gun-shy. After three years of Tyrod Taylor's ultra-conservative play, anyone would look like a gunslinger to us. 1 2
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: That's a very diplomatic way of saying, "You saw the receivers we had last year. Would you throw to them in tight coverage?" He didn't have to, we had Peterman for that.
aceman_16 Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Chill said: Honeymoon is over, expectations have risen. No more excuses for Josh. The pieces are in place, it’s time to produce. The irony of your name and your post was too much for me NOT to quote. 2
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