Lurker Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) The Penguin message boards are hating the trade - so that must be a plus for the Sabres... 57 minutes ago, K-9 said: I mean the Peg went the final 9+ minutes without a shot on goal yesterday. The Jets were a dead tired team on the tailend of a back to back. I wouldn't read too much into that 9+ minute defensive gem... Edited February 24, 2020 by Lurker
BillsFan4 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, snafu said: Point taken. And we shall see who Rodriguez gets paired with so he can blossom into a goal scoring magician. I read that he only played roughly 20% of the time with Malkin. He was their 4th or 5th best point producer at 5v5 and I believe his 5v5 numbers put him currently in the top 3 in buffalo (but I’m not 100% sure on that). He’s still developing. He hasn’t even played 2 full NHL seasons yet and his rookie year in Chicago was very promising. He gives a full effort every time he’s on the ice and has potential to be a long term middle 6 F for Buffalo. It was a no-risk add IMO, with plenty of potential upside. Edited February 24, 2020 by BillsFan4 1
GG Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Lurker said: The Penguin message boards are hating the trade - so that must be a plus for the Sabres... ... Was just going to post this. They hate the trade, especially the part about getting Sheary back. 1
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2020/02/20/dominik-kahun-penguins-versatility-evgeni-malkin-illness/stories/202002200134 1 1
shrader Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, Lurker said: The Penguin message boards are hating the trade - so that must be a plus for the Sabres... The Jets were a dead tired team on the tailend of a back to back. I wouldn't read too much into that 9+ minute defensive gem... Buffalo was also coming off a back to back. So if one team thrived under that circumstance and the other faltered, what exactly does it mean?
K-9 Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Lurker said: The Penguin message boards are hating the trade - so that must be a plus for the Sabres... The Jets were a dead tired team on the tailend of a back to back. I wouldn't read too much into that 9+ minute defensive gem... So were we and yet, even with a shortened bench, we were able to lock them down. RK has been successful with that on several occasions this season, problem is this team rarely gives him the luxury of doing that. Edited February 24, 2020 by K-9 1
JohnC Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) The below WGR link is Botterill talking about the transactions. It is a 14 min segment. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/botterill-is-focused-on-his-teams-progression-into-march This link is a BN commentary by Mike Harrington commenting on the trade deals. He comments on the GM balancing the present and future needs. https://buffalonews.com/2020/02/24/buffalo-sabres-nhl-jason-botterill-4/ Edited February 24, 2020 by JohnC
Lurker Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, shrader said: Buffalo was also coming off a back to back. So if one team thrived under that circumstance and the other faltered, what exactly does it mean? The home team got to sleep in their own beds the night before. And the word 'thrive' seems a bit inapropriate, IMO. Perhaps 'survive' would be better.. Edited February 25, 2020 by Lurker
plenzmd1 Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 Interesting question here. on one hand, making playoffs would mean a really fun 5 weeks of hockey, and most likely getting swept by Tampa as they gunna be a little fired up after last year. OTOH, that dude at 1 is supposed to be pretty good. I would do for lottery win
ALF Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 New cap space at $5.3M is a nice improvement https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/buffalo-sabres/ I would take the 1st overall pick instead of playoffs this season for sure. 1
The Jokeman Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, ALF said: New cap space at $5.3M is a nice improvement https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/buffalo-sabres/ I would take the 1st overall pick instead of playoffs this season for sure. The Sabres need NHL talent and while it be nice to have another top overall guy we need a proven 50-70 point 2nd line Centerman, a #1 Goalie and pending how we line things up a #2 RW.
aristocrat Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 this team needs a playoff series. nobody has delusions of a cup run but one series is never out of the question. hell the kings were the 8 seed one year and steamrolled everyone through the cup. get in win a couple games at home and give the top seed a tough series and feel good we finished the season strong. 2
JohnC Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Cody Hodgson may be a phantom but the money he makes even after he disappeared is real. The mistakes of the past continue to ding us in current time. My take from the spotrack chart is that Botterill has smartly managed the cap and has given himself flexibility to make deals in the offseason and be in a good position to sign some of his emerging young players in the not too distant future. Edited February 25, 2020 by JohnC
JohnC Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Andrew Fillipponi from 93.7Fan in Pitts was on WGR talking about the Pittsburgh/Buffalo deal. He provided more information on Kahun. He pointed out that Rutherford who is one of the better GMs in the game had a higher view on Rodriques than Botterill did, a personnel man who worked under Rutherford. This is a 16 min segment. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/02-25-andrew-fillipponi-from-937-the-fan-in-pittsburgh-on-dominik-kahun Speculation: On WGR's morning show Jeremy White noted that the Sabres tried to make a deal with Florida in order to get Trocheck. He pointed out that sources inside the organization were claiming their offer was higher than Carolina's. A factor may have been that Florida didn't want to trade within the conference. Edited February 25, 2020 by JohnC
shrader Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, JohnC said: Andrew Fillipponi from 93.7Fan in Pitts was on WGR talking about the Pittsburgh/Buffalo deal. He provided more information on Kahun. He pointed out that Rutherford who is one of the better GMs in the game had a higher view on Rodriques than Botterill did, a personnel man who worked under Rutherford. This is a 16 min segment. I also wonder if Mike Sullivan may have followed Rodrigues closely since he's a BU guy too.
plenzmd1 Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ALF said: New cap space at $5.3M is a nice improvement https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/buffalo-sabres/ I would take the 1st overall pick instead of playoffs this season for sure. OKay, someone much smarter than me explain this one ..i am referring to the 2nd point. Thought he created enough room yesterday..and there is a penalty on top of the overage???????? How can you be this bad and have a cap overage penalty p Edited February 25, 2020 by plenzmd1
JohnC Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 19 hours ago, eball said: So are the Sabres in the playoff picture? 6 pts behind Toronto for 3rd in the division with a game in hand and 20 to play. If the Sabres go 10-5-5 and the Leafs play a hair under .500 the Sabres overtake them. It's improbable that the Sabres will make the playoffs. The reason I'm not optimistic about reaching that benchmark has less to do with jumping over teams, granted a tough task in of itself. It has more to do with the remaining brutal schedule against superior teams. What I'm hoping for is for the Sabres to play good and tough hockey and stay in the race so the end of the season games are meaningful games. What I'm looking for is a franchise with a recent history of middling success making the progression to becoming a competitive team and moving up the ranks. What's encouraging to me is that I do see progress although a lot of the battered fanbase doesn't see it that way. Although my assessment is more positive I understand their exasperation and impatience. 1
JohnC Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, shrader said: I also wonder if Mike Sullivan may have followed Rodrigues closely since he's a BU guy too. I'm not sure about Sullivan's familiarity with Rodrigues. But it is widely acknowledged that Rutherford is one of the best GMs in the game. Not just winning the cup but consistently keeping your team in the cup hunt over an extended period of time in a cap system is a major accomplishment. In making this trade with Pittsburgh what is evident is that all three of these players needed a change of scenery and a fresh start. A deal good for you can also be a deal good for them.
ALF Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 Botterill's presser: * - he admits they'll have a cap overage penalty next season because of bonuses for the young defensemen. I guess spotrac hasn't factored the bonuses in yet , I bet someone in the Aud Club might know . That would be poor cap management and still poor results in the standings.
Nextmanup Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 4 hours ago, JohnC said: It's improbable that the Sabres will make the playoffs. The reason I'm not optimistic about reaching that benchmark has less to do with jumping over teams, granted a tough task in of itself. It has more to do with the remaining brutal schedule against superior teams. What I'm hoping for is for the Sabres to play good and tough hockey and stay in the race so the end of the season games are meaningful games. What I'm looking for is a franchise with a recent history of middling success making the progression to becoming a competitive team and moving up the ranks. What's encouraging to me is that I do see progress although a lot of the battered fanbase doesn't see it that way. Although my assessment is more positive I understand their exasperation and impatience. You can say that again. Currently about a 3% chance. This team is streaky. They have just put in a nice win streak. That will end on the coming road trip against good teams and we'll probably lose 4 or 5 in a row...and then the playoff talk will go away. Jason is desperate to get his "meaningful hockey games in March" but I'm not sure he's going to pull it off. How about meaningful hockey games in May?!
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