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Buffalo Sabres and NHL: 2019/20: Sabres season officially over. Draft lottery June 26th

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I don’t want to get too far ahead of myself. It’s only 2 games and Krueger has shown an ability to get teams to perform well in many hockey tournaments over the years. But I am getting hopeful an

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Not that long ago the Sabres and the Billls were franchises that were fiscally tightly operated. The Pegulas have certainly made mistakes as new owners with their two franchises. They have learned fro

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I was really impressed with the style of hockey they played. That, IMO, is a winning brand of hockey. It’s tough to play against. They constantly had 1 and 2 guys on every puck, took away Pittsburgh’s

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  On 3/12/2020 at 6:22 PM, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

WOO HOO! The Sabres are FINALLY going to play some meaningful games in April and May!

 

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Well games, not quite meaningful 

 

  On 3/12/2020 at 6:22 PM, ChevyVanMiller said:

Imagine what we’d be saying if the Sabres were having a President’s Trophy season.

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I know!  I said something similar in the Bona thread that I'm glad now the team has had the wheels fall off the last few weeks..........Just thinking now - a fanbase as good as Dayton is going to be screwed.  This will be their Bob Lanier year, thinking they definitely would have won the whole thing.  

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  On 3/12/2020 at 2:00 PM, May Day 10 said:

I wonder what happens with the salary cap if the NHL needs to cancel?  Thats a lot of revenue for a gate-driven league.  Especially if the playoffs cannot be played

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What they could do is based on the current revenue stream project what it would be for a full season. Or another option might be keep the current salary cap for another year, or maybe at the current level add an agreed percentage to that base for projected income growth. I really don't think that the salary cap issue is going to be a difficult issue to resolve between management and the players. 

 

There is another factor that might come into play. It wouldn't be surprising if the league had insurance to cover some of the lost revenue due to an unforeseen catastrophic event. 

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  On 3/12/2020 at 7:13 PM, Taro T said:

 

Not only that, but Eichel might be healthy again by the time they resume play. ;)

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Yeah, but Sobotka could be too.

 

Seriously though, just imagine the LTIR implications that could actually pop up for certain teams.

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  On 3/12/2020 at 7:28 PM, shrader said:

 

Yeah, but Sobotka could be too.

 

Seriously though, just imagine the LTIR implications that could actually pop up for certain teams.

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Hadn't thought of it, but yeah, teams that are using BF-LTIR (Sabres technically aren't in that group anymore since they dumped Bogosian's salary because ELC bonuses can slide to next season) could be in a world of hurt if the regular season stretches too far out.  But if those guys are back for the playoffs then the teams don't have any issues as the player salaries have already been earned / paid and playoff money is entirely paid from bonus pools and don't count against team salary caps.

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  On 3/12/2020 at 7:38 PM, Taro T said:

 

Hadn't thought of it, but yeah, teams that are using BF-LTIR (Sabres technically aren't in that group anymore since they dumped Bogosian's salary because ELC bonuses can slide to next season) could be in a world of hurt if the regular season stretches too far out.  But if those guys are back for the playoffs then the teams don't have any issues as the player salaries have already been earned / paid and playoff money is entirely paid from bonus pools and don't count against team salary caps.

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It's time to take out the old forging pen and push back those return dates for certain players.

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  On 3/12/2020 at 2:00 PM, May Day 10 said:

I wonder what happens with the salary cap if the NHL needs to cancel?  Thats a lot of revenue for a gate-driven league.  Especially if the playoffs cannot be played

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  On 3/12/2020 at 7:14 PM, JohnC said:

What they could do is based on the current revenue stream project what it would be for a full season. Or another option might be keep the current salary cap for another year, or maybe at the current level add an agreed percentage to that base for projected income growth. I really don't think that the salary cap issue is going to be a difficult issue to resolve between management and the players. 

 

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Nothing would happen to next year's cap unless they expect this season's alterations to effect next season's revenue projections.

 

However, if teams are having to refund ticket & television money (and losing concession money) the players could take a MASSIVE escrow hit (possibly even so much as to having to cover excess withholding directly from their own pockets).  Doubt that lost revenues will climb that high, but if they have to reduce the playoff tourney which drops TV revenue there will be a lot of unhappy players as they split 50%-50% all Hockey Related Revenues (HRR) with the owners.

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  On 3/12/2020 at 7:45 PM, Taro T said:

 

 

Nothing would happen to next year's cap unless they expect this season's alterations to effect next season's revenue projections.

 

However, if teams are having to refund ticket & television money (and losing concession money) the players could take a MASSIVE escrow hit (possibly even so much as to having to cover excess withholding directly from their own pockets).  Doubt that lost revenues will climb that high, but if they have to reduce the playoff tourney which drops TV revenue there will be a lot of unhappy players as they split 50%-50% all Hockey Related Revenues (HRR) with the owners.

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And then there are some of those bonus clauses for the ELCs.  I don't know the specifics on those, but I'd imagine they'd have to prorate anything with a games played component.

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  On 3/12/2020 at 8:00 PM, shrader said:

 

And then there are some of those bonus clauses for the ELCs.  I don't know the specifics on those, but I'd imagine they'd have to prorate anything with a games played component.

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There are "ice time" bonuses that guys on ELCs are eligible for, but those are aggregate and per game relative to other players (on their own team and league wide).  There aren't any that kick in for x # of games played, so they shouldn't have to prorate them. 

 

Though could you imagine how frustrated Olofsson would've been had he not scored his 20th against the Caps should their season have ended after that game.  Finishing the year with 19 goals would've taken $212k out of his pocket (or more accurately that 20th goal put it in his pocket).

 

If games are lost, there's almost definitely a player or 2 that will lose out on a nice performance bonus.  Oh, well.

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  On 3/12/2020 at 5:06 PM, ChevyVanMiller said:
 
 
 
 
The Sabres are expecting the season to be suspended, according to a source. Awaiting official word from the NHL, but they are preparing to return to Buffalo this afternoon.
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Sabres ahead of the curve when they suspended their season at the All Star break.

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