leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, B-Man said: 17,000+ days in office...but now. He’s a joke. 6 1
Keukasmallies Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 1:17 AM, transplantbillsfan said: Biden is a physically affectionate guy. And it's with men AND women. That's the crux of why I mostly dismiss it. I think you and your ilk are trying to build up an argument of logic against Biden instead of considering just what/who he is. Joe Biden is a politician in the worst sense of the word: Corrupt, self-aggrandizing, arrogant and totally clueless to the events around him. On the other hand, and in his defense, he the victim of early onset dementia, he is being manipulated by the DNC and his family, and he is living through a time when anyone appears better than Trump, so the spotlight is on Biden as savior while knowing full well he is as inept as his opponent. 3 1
transplantbillsfan Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Keukasmallies said: Joe Biden is a politician in the worst sense of the word: Corrupt, self-aggrandizing, arrogant and totally clueless to the events around him. On the other hand, and in his defense, he the victim of early onset dementia, he is being manipulated by the DNC and his family, and he is living through a time when anyone appears better than Trump, so the spotlight is on Biden as savior while knowing full well he is as inept as his opponent. This, minus the "as inept as his opponen" part. Biden isn't a historically great Democratic candidate by any means. But the guy he's running against has had 3 1/2 years to demonstrate he's an utterly horrible President. Biden just needs to be clearly better than Trump. And he is because it's really not hard. That's why Biden wins in November. Edited June 10, 2020 by transplantbillsfan
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: This 100%. Biden isn't a historically great Democratic candidate by any means. But the guy he's running against has had 3 1/2 years to demonstrate he's an utterly horrible President. Biden just needs to be clearly better than Trump. And he is because it's really not hard. That's why Biden wins in November. Could you specifically state why President Trump has been an "utterly horrible President"? Facts, not feelz, please. 2 1 1
Deranged Rhino Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: This 100%. Biden isn't a historically great Democratic candidate by any means. But the guy he's running against has had 3 1/2 years to demonstrate he's an utterly horrible President. Biden just needs to be clearly better than Trump. And he is because it's really not hard. That's why Biden wins in November. The thing is, from everything from his record to his racism to his corruption -- Joe's decidedly worse than Trump. Joe didn't pass criminal justice reform, Trump did. Trump isn't on camera assaulting women and children for decades, but Joe is. Trump funded Historically black universities and colleges, Joe never did. Trump didn't abuse the police and intelligence powers to spy on his political rivals, Joe did. What Joe did, over his forty years in power was to strengthen the "systemic injustice", get in bed with high interest credit card companies that crushed the working class and created a generation of debt slaves, he worked with segregationists and former Klan heads in Congress. Joe's not only a terrible politician, he's a proven disaster for the country when he was in power. No Chance Joe. That's who you support. Which means you don't really support any reform, or changing of the system. Your vote for Joe is a vote for systemic racism, government corruption, and the abuse of women. Wear that pin proud, Trans. You'll want to burn it in about 10 years when you realize you've been suckered. Edited June 10, 2020 by Deranged Rhino 8 1
keepthefaith Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Keukasmallies said: Joe Biden is a politician in the worst sense of the word: Corrupt, self-aggrandizing, arrogant and totally clueless to the events around him. On the other hand, and in his defense, he the victim of early onset dementia, he is being manipulated by the DNC and his family, and he is living through a time when anyone appears better than Trump, so the spotlight is on Biden as savior while knowing full well he is as inept as his opponent. I don't know about early onset. He's 77 years old. 1
3rdnlng Posted June 10, 2020 Author Posted June 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Could you specifically state why President Trump has been an "utterly horrible President"? Facts, not feelz, please. He's Factless in Hawaii. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: He's Factless in Hawaii. I know, but I still like to afford him the opportunity to back up his claims.
reddogblitz Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: The thing is, from everything from his record to his racism to his corruption -- Joe's decidedly worse than Trump. Joe didn't pass criminal justice reform, Trump did. Trump isn't on camera assaulting women and children for decades, but Joe is. Trump funded Historically black universities and colleges, Joe never did. Trump didn't abuse the police and intelligence powers to spy on his political rivals, Joe did. What Joe did, over his forty years in power was to strengthen the "systemic injustice", get in bed with high interest credit card companies that crushed the working class and created a generation of debt slaves, he worked with segregationists and former Klan heads in Congress. Joe's not only a terrible politician, he's a proven disaster for the country when he was in power. No Chance Joe. That's who you support. Which means you don't really support any reform, or changing of the system. Your vote for Joe is a vote for systemic racism, government corruption, and the abuse of women. Wear that pin proud, Trans. You'll want to burn it in about 10 years when you realize you've been suckered. Uncle Joe also made a eulogy at Strom Thurmond's funeral. If institutional racism is your issue how can you possibly support him? 4
Deranged Rhino Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Just now, reddogblitz said: Uncle Joe also made a eulogy at Strom Thurmond's funeral. If institutional racism is your issue how can you possibly support him? Exactly. They cannot -- unless they ignore his record. Which is what @transplantbillsfan has been doing for months now. No Chance Joe is the worst candidate you could run in this moment precisely because of his record. He was one of the primary architects of "systemic injustice", he had nearly 50 years in power and in that time worked with segregationists (while praising them) and authoring the crime bill which did more to tilt the system against black, brown and poor folk than any other piece of legislation since Reconstruction. But THIS time he'll be different! 3 1 1
Wacka Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) I've said it before, Biden is giving my 93-year old mother a run fire her money in the dementia race. Some mornings mom thinks I am one of her dead brothers , my sister is her dead cousin or that she has to pack and go to a wedding today, but she is mot running for POTUS. Addendum-My mom is not like this all the time, usually before she is fully awake in the morning or if she wakes uo during the night. She can be as funny as hell. My bro and I were wiping her but and my brother made a comment about doing it out at the curb if she continued to give us a hard time. She said," If you do, you better charge people to watch." Remember if Biden won ( fat chance) he would have the nuclear football. Edited June 11, 2020 by Wacka 2
Koko78 Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Could you specifically state why President Trump has been an "utterly horrible President"? Facts, not feelz, please. He tweets mean things! He insulted several woman years ago! He's orange! There can be no more damning proof that he is, in fact, an actual literal super mecha-Hitler. 2
njbuff Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 48 minutes ago, Koko78 said: He tweets mean things! He insulted several woman years ago! He's orange! There can be no more damning proof that he is, in fact, an actual literal super mecha-Hitler. People are mad that he had Marla Maples.
transplantbillsfan Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Could you specifically state why President Trump has been an "utterly horrible President"? Facts, not feelz, please. A tax bill that was unnecessary in the first place but primarily helped the wealthy as opposed to the middle class and is adding TONS to our national debt despite being advertised as paying for itself. A statistically significant rise in hate crimes, attributed likely in some small part at least to his own hateful rhetoric--yes, words do matter, especially from the President. His desperation to take people's health insurance away by dismantling an imperfect but fixable Affordable Care Act rather than building on it to make it better. His complete lack of any empathy. And that's not a "feelz" thing because it bleeds over into his actions, like violently clearing out peaceful protesters for a 3 minute photo op. Environmental deregulations, setting this country's environmental progress back. The national treaties we've been pulling out of and a general turn inward in a world constantly getting more global despite the wildly underestimated but still minority populist movements that have sprung up recently. Our global standing as a trustworthy Country. ADHD when it comes to his cabinet members, who aren't afforded the ability to be the experts they're supposed to be because they're required to walk on eggshells to appease a boss who can't hear hard truths. Constant and utter corruption from his own appointees and from himself. I wasn't here years ago but I'm sure DR posted tweets or comments by Trump at some point about how he wouldn't be on the golf course like Obama and that he'd probably never leave the White House because he'd be working too hard. Not quite what happened, is it? It will be interesting to see when his Presidency is done at the end of this year how much he cost the American taxpayers and how much the American taxpayers actually funded Trump's business. Not to mention other shady things like $17.2 million spent to land military planes at a small airport in Scotland, which of course was right near a golf resort Trump owns. Everything he's done with the Press in terms of his lack of transparency and other things like calling them the enemy of the people, which you see his supporters shouting at journalists consistently. An economy that is now in shambles after 3 years of riding the coattails of the previous Administration that rebuilt the economy from the last economic disaster, which is what Biden's Administration will have to start doing again in January. 115,000 Americans dead in just 4 months and counting due in part to a President who was utterly unprepared due to his own ego and narcissism and even now seems to be in denial. Let's be honest, this is what's sealed his fate as a one term President already. His handling of these protests in terms of both rhetoric and action. Casting preemptive doubt on the democratic process foreshadowing a breaking of long tradition of the peaceful transfer of power from one President to another. Sorry, not an exhaustive list, but you asked for facts for why he's an awful President. I think as the years progress and the world progresses history is going to look at him even worse... one step back for this Country after 2 steps forward under Obama. Edited June 11, 2020 by transplantbillsfan 1
transplantbillsfan Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 7 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Uncle Joe also made a eulogy at Strom Thurmond's funeral. If institutional racism is your issue how can you possibly support him? Lots of black people do, especially old black people. Do you think black people--especially old black people--are stupid? They definitely don't support Trump, who will probably be jumping for joy if he can muster up 10% of the black vote. 1
reddogblitz Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Lots of black people do, especially old black people. Do you think black people--especially old black people--are stupid? They definitely don't support Trump, who will probably be jumping for joy if he can muster up 10% of the black vote. Really?
transplantbillsfan Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Really? Right back at ya... You're the one asking how you could support Biden if Institutional racism is your issue. Pretty sure that's the issue for black people. Seems the support leans overwhelmingly for Biden over Trump from black people. I understand the reason you're dismissive of the question even though the question is warranted given your own pretty definitive question. So do you think all those black people supporting Biden right now and voting for him in the Fall are dumb or naive or misguided or whatever word you want to use? Just keep in mind Biden will almost certainly get 85-90% of the black vote, at least. Side question: is everyone in this forum white? Are there any black people who frequent PPP? Edited June 11, 2020 by transplantbillsfan
Keukasmallies Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Side question: is everyone in this forum white? Whoa, now there's a racist question given the currtent national atmosphere! The assumptions behind that question just leap out to be recognized. 1
The Guy In Pants Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Koko78 said: He tweets mean things! He insulted several woman years ago! He's orange! There can be no more damning proof that he is, in fact, an actual literal super mecha-Hitler. Don’t forget the hair. 4 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Really? He must not know too many. He’s still using polls.
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