transplantbillsfan Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: You cannot possibly have your head that far up your ass to be asking this as anything more than trolling. But, on the very slim chance you are not trolling or being disingenuous... How about the difference in reporting? The double standard? The absolute stupidity of combing through Kavanaugh's high school yearbook as "admissible" but Biden's Senate records are "off limits." The last is especially ridiculous as this allegation supposedly occurred while Joe Biden was a sitting Senator!! The history of one (never a peep of any type of improper conduct) versus the other that has a nickname of Creepy Joe to go with his long history of unwanted touching. How about #MeToo being a movement to prevent a Republican from assuming a Supreme Court seat, but "she's a slut" and "she's crazy" as the movement to dismiss allegations against a Democrat so he can run for President? You guys are silly. Take yourselves out of the damn political arena for a moment and get back to me when you can look at the FACTS (not opinions reached by writers in opinion pieces but reporting of events and interviews, etc) of this entire situation with even modest objectivity rather than conflating one allegation with another because you hold a political grudge. When you can legitimately do that, get back to me and tell me the Reade allegation isn't full of holes. That, of course, was a rhetorical question. As much as you guys profess objectivity, you still harbor serious political grudges, so I'm making an impossible request.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Try to do some independent thinking. Still waiting for you to demonstrate this ability. Going on 2 years now. 2 1
Doc Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: What does one allegation have to do with the other? You guys over here are desperately trying to conflate the 2 just so you can ignore the serious holes that exist in Reade's story and personal history. It's predictable and also pathetic. Try to do some independent thinking. It has everything to do with one another. If you believe Blasey-Ford despite any facts whatsoever, then you must believe Reade. If you doubt Blasey-Ford, then you can doubt Reade and also doubt the women who have accused Trump. But as I've said before, now that the accusation is out there and Reade has infinitely more facts than Blasey-Ford did, the "Trump is a rapist" stuff is now off-limits for Biden. Regardless of whether you believe Reade or not. 3
3rdnlng Posted May 17, 2020 Author Posted May 17, 2020 Chances are Joe Biden is lying about his little encounter with Reade. Statistically it appears that he lies more often than not so I'd put my money on him lying. 2
Doc Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Chances are Joe Biden is lying about his little encounter with Reade. Statistically it appears that he lies more often than not so I'd put my money on him lying. He's got a history of being creepy, so much so that back in 2015, Jon Stewart talked about his penchant for groping women. And there's just no way you can get around that phone call that Reade's mother made to Larry King. 1 1
transplantbillsfan Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: It has everything to do with one another. If you believe Blasey-Ford despite any facts whatsoever, then you must believe Reade. If you doubt Blasey-Ford, then you can doubt Reade and also doubt the women who have accused Trump. But as I've said before, now that the accusation is out there and Reade has infinitely more facts than Blasey-Ford did, the "Trump is a rapist" stuff is now off-limits for Biden. Regardless of whether you believe Reade or not. Infinitely more facts Oh wow, thanks for that. I needed a good laugh. As desperately as you want Trump and Biden to suddenly be on equal ground in terms of character, they aren't. A cockroach has more character than Donald Trump. There's a reason Biden has consistently been ahead of Trump in the polls, including state polls in battleground states like Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. This conversation will go on and that's fine. As of that laugher you just gave, I'm done with this. I'll let the Trump Tribe be for the 5 1/2 months you have left til bizarro world here comes crashing down. Edited May 17, 2020 by transplantbillsfan
transplantbillsfan Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...better assign the wait to your great, great great grandchildren........his legendary BBMB posts have now pierced the protective TBD veil, albeit football or PPP....SAME result.... Cut Copy Paste So predictable oldtimer. Find a new schtick.
Doc Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Infinitely more facts Oh wow, thanks for that. I needed a good laugh. As desperately as you want Trump and Biden to suddenly be on equal ground in terms of character, they aren't. A cockroach has more character than Donald Trump. There's a reason Biden has consistently been ahead of Trump in the polls, including state polls in battleground states like Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. This conversation will go on and that's fine. As of that laugher you just gave, I'm done with this. I'll let the Trump Tribe be for the 5 1/2 months you have left til bizarro world here comes crashing down. Yes "infintely" because Blasey-Ford had zero facts, just a wholly uncorroborated story. Yet they trotted her out as someone who was unimpeachable because as an alleged victim, she had to be believed. It was a pathetic farce. Even more so now that Reade isn't being afforded the same. And don't make me laugh about character. Career politicians are no better than you think Trump is, if not worse. Biden especially. He's been able to fly under the radar as this goofy aw shucks guy but now that the light is shining squarely on him, the warts are starting to show. And Hillary was ahead of Trump in the polls. Until the election rolled-around. 2 1 2
Nanker Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 The issue as I see it is the unequal treatment of the accusers in the media. Ford didn’t remember the date, time, place, attendees, how she got home, and never said anything to anyone until her CIA backed family saw an opportunity to pounce! “Without evidence” on a Republican SCOTUS Nominee. Reade on the other hand does have some contemporaneous evidence that Joey Fingers abused her in the grand Democrat tradition of the Kennedys, Chris Dodd, and Harvey Weinstein. Drink from the troth of spittle and sperm that you are predicated to. And drink to your health. COVID-19 is watching. 3 2
Koko78 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Nanker said: The issue as I see it is the unequal treatment of the accusers in the media. Ford didn’t remember the date, time, place, attendees, how she got home, and never said anything to anyone until her CIA backed family saw an opportunity to pounce! “Without evidence” on a Republican SCOTUS Nominee. Reade on the other hand does have some contemporaneous evidence that Joey Fingers abused her in the grand Democrat tradition of the Kennedys, Chris Dodd, and Harvey Weinstein. Drink from the troth of spittle and sperm that you are predicated to. And drink to your health. COVID-19 is watching. Oh, let's not forget that Ford (and her Democrat handlers) also got caught in several material lies, including, but not limited to, the whole 'we must delay because I'm too scared to take a plane' (unless it's going to a tropical island), and (my personal favorite) 'I had to install two front doors in my home, because I was too afraid to only have one'. 2 1
Chef Jim Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: You guys are silly. Silly? That’s the best you got?? Come on man. Step up your game! ? 1 1
njbuff Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Don't worry about Biden so much, he won't be around too much longer.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: It's interesting to you merely because you believe, weirdly, that every sexual assault allegation is the same and should be given the same amount of credibility. I don't find conflating separate sexual misconduct/abuse allegations into one lump conclusion useful. The Kavenaugh situation is completely irrelevant to the Biden situation because they are separate allegations by different women of different men. All you guys desperately want to do is distract from the multiple issues with the Biden accusation by pointing to the unjustifiably accused Kavenaugh, and that's wildly problematic. You read the Vox article. I'm glad some of you actually read things that are posted. It's not purely an opinion piece though. I don't particularly care about the opinions of the writer. I was looking at the inconsistencies of events and stories within the piece itself. Her opinions are pretty irrelevant. But that wasn't the only article I posted. That you are 85% sure Biden did it just tells me more about your own tribalism than it does anything else. That you are that confident that Biden committed that heinous act after truly examining the situation objectively just demonstrates your own partisanship and hypocrisy, especially considering you've recently told me that you concluded that Donald Trump is completely innocent of all the 2+ dozen sexual assault/misconduct allegations that have been leveled against him. But I can't say I'm surprised. It's what seems to consistently happen over here with you guys and why I generally steer clear of this toxic environment. Oh boy. You dropped “toxic” on me. I have to be honest, if my discourse on one of the major issues of our time, and the manner in which I interact is “toxic” to you you’re as soft as melted butter. You shared something, I replied with something from the same author that reveals a contradiction in approach to similar circumstances and you’re off to the bomb shelter? On Biden, you’ve missed the larger point. The “always believe her” message is his, not mine. Biden laid out the rules along with all the usual suspects in the party, attempted to destroy a man based on a story that was devoid of facts, any at all. Here you go: https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/watch-joe-biden-claims-kavanaughs-accuser-must-believed I never subscribed to the theory personally, not because women are not abused, but because it’s rock $#@& stupid to state in a public forum “ALWAYS BELIEVE!”. It makes no sense, it’s an impossible standard to manage, and is so clearly wrought with potential for malfesance as to be among the dumbest sales ploys ever foisted upon the American people. Fortunately, only half the American people are simple enough to buy it. It took less than one election cycle to be used on their dopey 2x loser of a candidate and the coalition cracked like an egg. It doesn’t help that the guy is a perv, the story credible with a Larry King tape from nearly 30 years ago, and multiple people confirming the tale. It will be incredibly satisfying if it costs Biden the presidency and his legacy. Fortunately, there may be hope for you yet. Buried in your anguished defense of your Creepy Uncle Joe was this: All you guys desperately want to do is distract from the multiple issues with the Biden accusation by pointing to the unjustifiably accused Kavenaugh, and that's wildly problematic. ”the unjustifiably accused Kavanaugh....” I asked what you thought because I wanted to know. I had to read it twice to see if you answered (what’s with you lefty’s being afraid to answer simple questions simply?). I don’t think I can understand why you personally would support people who participated in the attempt to destroy someone with allegations of sexual assault and participating in rape trains, but I will acknowledge your comments on Kavanaugh. We agree there, that’s enough for today. 1 1
Doc Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Oh boy. You dropped “toxic” on me. I have to be honest, if my discourse on one of the major issues of our time, and the manner in which I interact is “toxic” to you you’re as soft as melted butter. You shared something, I replied with something from the same author that reveals a contradiction in approach to similar circumstances and you’re off to the bomb shelter? On Biden, you’ve missed the larger point. The “always believe her” message is his, not mine. Biden laid out the rules along with all the usual suspects in the party, attempted to destroy a man based on a story that was devoid of facts, any at all. Here you go: https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/watch-joe-biden-claims-kavanaughs-accuser-must-believed I never subscribed to the theory personally, not because women are not abused, but because it’s rock $#@& stupid to state in a public forum “ALWAYS BELIEVE!”. It makes no sense, it’s an impossible standard to manage, and is so clearly wrought with potential for malfesance as to be among the dumbest sales ploys ever foisted upon the American people. Fortunately, only half the American people are simple enough to buy it. It took less than one election cycle to be used on their dopey 2x loser of a candidate and the coalition cracked like an egg. It doesn’t help that the guy is a perv, the story credible with a Larry King tape from nearly 30 years ago, and multiple people confirming the tale. It will be incredibly satisfying if it costs Biden the presidency and his legacy. Fortunately, there may be hope for you yet. Buried in your anguished defense of your Creepy Uncle Joe was this: All you guys desperately want to do is distract from the multiple issues with the Biden accusation by pointing to the unjustifiably accused Kavenaugh, and that's wildly problematic. ”the unjustifiably accused Kavanaugh....” I asked what you thought because I wanted to know. I had to read it twice to see if you answered (what’s with you lefty’s being afraid to answer simple questions simply?). I don’t think I can understand why you personally would support people who participated in the attempt to destroy someone with allegations of sexual assault and participating in rape trains, but I will acknowledge your comments on Kavanaugh. We agree there, that’s enough for today. I missed the "unjustifiably accused" part. Thanks for pointing-it-out to me. So at least there's something there to work with transplantbillsfan. Edited May 18, 2020 by Doc 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: I missed the "unjustifiably accused" part. Thanks for point-it-out to me. So at least there's something there to work with transplantbillsfan. Honestly, I think so. I’m not sure why everything has to be wrapped in 7 layers of emotional fabric, but it seems almost like he’s trying to convince himself that Joe’s ok. Can’t be easy. 1
Doc Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Honestly, I think so. I’m not sure why everything has to be wrapped in 7 layers of emotional fabric, but it seems almost like he’s trying to convince himself that Joe’s ok. Can’t be easy. Truly, I think they just don't care. They want Trump out and if Joe's a scumbag too, so be it. 2
Nanker Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Doc said: Truly, I think they just don't care. They want Trump out and if Joe's a scumbag too, so be it. That does somewhat shadow the ethos of 2016 when People elected Trump while holding their nose because they detested the autocratic hideous shrewIsh worm slime ball that was the alternative. However this time their incessant drumbeating mirrors a four year long Nuremberg rally of brainwashed leftist storm trooper NPCs determined to bring their new green final solution to the world. Heil Hillary! Edited May 18, 2020 by Nanker 2
Uncle Joe Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 14 hours ago, Koko78 said: Oh, let's not forget that Ford (and her Democrat handlers) also got caught in several material lies, including, but not limited to, the whole 'we must delay because I'm too scared to take a plane' (unless it's going to a tropical island), and (my personal favorite) 'I had to install two front doors in my home, because I was too afraid to only have one'. Also, wasn't she in Maryland at that time as well? 1
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