ColoradoBills Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Boy oh boy, Bell is sure going to want to go all out to play for Gase.
Malazan Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: Is this all that different from what we did with Whaley? Yes, actually. There were many indications prior to Whaley being let go that he was on his way out and was intentionally kept through the draft. The Jets move is a reaction to Gase and Mac having major problems with each other that's been reported for a couple months from hiring Gregg Williams, signing Bell, etc. Gase also was not present at the draft for the Jets which is..unusual. Edited May 15, 2019 by jeremy2020 1
teef Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: His winning percentage is better than McDermott's and he's actually beat BB a few times.... so I don't really get all the criticism from Bills fans of him. Because he failed in Miami, and our staff is finishing up building something. We don’t k ow if it’s going to work, but comparing win percentages is lazy and scottlaw-ish 9 1
Logic Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, teef said: Because he failed in Miami, and our staff is finishing up building something. We don’t k ow if it’s going to work, but comparing win percentages is lazy and scottlaw-ish Yep. I mean...he completely seemed to lose the locker room in Miami. There were instances of him calling out his players publicly for lack of effort, there were players who left and were basically on their knees thanking God to be out of there. And this doesn't even make MENTION of the awful on-field product in Miami. His teams had absolutely no identity and were a real bore. And his "keen offensive mind"? Sure didn't help much. I will thoroughly enjoy watching him fail in Jersey just as he failed in Miami. 2
Wsam4031 Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Heitz said: You KNOW Bell is reading this somewhere thinking "He didn't want me, I'll show him!". Seems like it should all go well... Twitter war in 3, 2,... HAHAHAHA was literally just thinking this! 1
x-BillzeBubba Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Boy oh boy, Bell is sure going to want to go all out to play for Gase. lol Gase / Ajayi worked out so well... Bell and Gase are gonna hate each other 2
BuffaloRebound Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 Jets should’ve canned Bowles and Maccagnan after 2017 season. Jets could’ve sat at pick 6 and got either Darnold or Allen instead of trading three 2nd rounders to move up 3 spots a month before the draft. And now you have a new head coach whose not happy with the moves his GM made. Stupid not to have removed Maccagnan once Gase was hired. 1
teef Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Logic said: Yep. I mean...he completely seemed to lose the locker room in Miami. There were instances of him calling out his players publicly for lack of effort, there were players who left and were basically on their knees thanking God to be out of there. And this doesn't even make MENTION of the awful on-field product in Miami. His teams had absolutely no identity and were a real bore. And his "keen offensive mind"? Sure didn't help much. I will thoroughly enjoy watching him fail in Jersey just as he failed in Miami. jets fans have every right to be angry with that hire the same way bills fans had every right to be angry with the chan gailey hire, (you could throw jauron and ryan in there too). i'm usually a wait and see guy, but i have a very strong feeling that gase is going to get torn apart in ny. i certainly could be wrong. if his tenure works out, it will be because darnold completely saved him. 1 1
YoloinOhio Posted May 15, 2019 Author Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Yes, actually. There were many indications prior to Whaley being let go that he was on his way out and was intentionally kept through the draft. The Jets move is a reaction to Gase and Mac having major problems with each other that's been reported for a couple months from hiring Gregg Williams, signing Bell, etc. Gase also was not present at the draft for the Jets which is..unusual. And the bigger story isn’t that Mac was fired. It’s who they handed the power to, like he’s bill belichick or Pete carroll. McDermott doesn’t have control over the 53, Beane does. I highly doubt the new GM will take that back from Gase when he comes in. He had it in Miami and he now has it in NJ. That takes away the checks and balances that a guy with the ego of Gase needs. Gase is reportedly the guy who screamed at his owner Stephen Ross when his offense was questioned in Miami and staff members had to intervene. Edited May 15, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1
Reed83HOF Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Boy oh boy, Bell is sure going to want to go all out to play for Gase. Blonde beard time or not show up again LOL 1
Logic Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, teef said: jets fans have every right to be angry with that hire the same way bills fans had every right to be angry with the chan gailey hire, (you could throw jauron and ryan in there too). i'm usually a wait and see guy, but i have a very strong feeling that gase is going to get torn apart in ny. i certainly could be wrong. if his tenure works out, it will be because darnold completely saved him. The AFC East incestual coach-swapping the past few years has been mind boggling. Rex Ryan gets fired from Jets for being a bumbling doofus, immediately gets hired by Buffalo...where he continues to be a bumbling doofus. Chan Gailey and Ryan Fitzpatrick get run out of Buffalo, the Jets bring both of them in to helm their offense. Adam Gase flames out in Miami, so they bring him to New York and make him head coach AND GM. Mike Tenanbaum gets fried from the Jets, gets hired to be a part of Miami's front office. Meanwhile, the Pats are sitting back, laughing and counting rings. You can't write this stuff. 2 1 2 4
teef Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Logic said: The AFC East incestual coach-swapping the past few years has been mind boggling. Rex Ryan gets fired from Jets for being a bumbling doofus, immediately gets hired by Buffalo...where he continues to be a bumbling doofus. Chan Gailey and Ryan Fitzpatrick get run out of Buffalo, the Jets bring both of them in to helm their offense. Adam Gase flames out in Miami, so they bring him to New York and make him head coach AND GM. Mike Tenanbaum gets fried from the Jets, gets hired to be a part of Miami's front office. Meanwhile, the Pats are sitting back, laughing and counting rings. You can't write this stuff. having it spelled out like that is amazing. not that the pats haven't been more talented than the rest of the afce, but my god did we make it easy for them. 3 1
Happy Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: I actually think Gase is a good coach, he doesnt care for pre-Madonnas. Miami apparently didn't think he was so good. We'll see.
Boca BIlls Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 I love how the Jets are falling apart and TC hasn't even started.
Warcodered Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Jets should’ve canned Bowles and Maccagnan after 2017 season. Jets could’ve sat at pick 6 and got either Darnold or Allen instead of trading three 2nd rounders to move up 3 spots a month before the draft. And now you have a new head coach whose not happy with the moves his GM made. Stupid not to have removed Maccagnan once Gase was hired. I don't know about that the Bills almost traded up with Denver in the actual draft. 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: I just looked at the NYJ Staff and Coaches. What's with all the Asst. Head Coaches. The organizational chart seems pretty crazy. Who is responsible for what? Front office Owner – Woody Johnson Chairman/CEO – Christopher Johnson President – Neil Glat Senior Director, Football Administration - Dave Socie Vice President, Player Personnel – Vacant Player Personnel Executive - Rich Snead Player Personnel Executive - Zach Truty College Scouting - Jon Carr Head coaches Head Coach/Interim General Manager – Adam Gase Assistant Head Coach/Offense/Wide Receivers – Shawn Jefferson Assistant Head Coach/Defense/Inside Linebackers – Frank Bush Offensive coaches Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks – Dowell Loggains Running Backs – Jim Bob Cooter Tight Ends – John Dunn Offensive Line – Frank Pollack Assistant Offensive Line – Derek Frazier Offensive Assistant – Bo Hardegree Offensive Assistant – Chris Kragthorpe Defensive coaches Defensive Coordinator – Gregg Williams Defensive Line – Andre Carter Senior Defensive Assistant/Outside Linebackers – Joe Vitt Passing Game Coordinator/Defensive Backs – Dennard Wilson Assistant Defensive Backs – Steve Jackson Defensive Assistant – Robby Brown Defensive Assistant – Blake Williams Defensive Assistant – Eric Sanders Special teams coaches Special Teams Coordinator – Brant Boyer Assistant Special Teams – Jeff Hammerschmidt Strength and conditioning Head Strength and Conditioning – Justus Galac Assistant Strength and Conditioning – Aaron McLaurin Assistant Strength and Conditioning – Joe Giacobbe So theirs an Owner then a Chairman/CEO then a President then a GM then a HC? That seems a little top heavy.
DrDawkinstein Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Logic said: The AFC East incestual coach-swapping the past few years has been mind boggling. Rex Ryan gets fired from Jets for being a bumbling doofus, immediately gets hired by Buffalo...where he continues to be a bumbling doofus. Chan Gailey and Ryan Fitzpatrick get run out of Buffalo, the Jets bring both of them in to helm their offense. Adam Gase flames out in Miami, so they bring him to New York and make him head coach AND GM. Mike Tenanbaum gets fried from the Jets, gets hired to be a part of Miami's front office. Meanwhile, the Pats are sitting back, laughing and counting rings. You can't write this stuff. Todd Bowles was Asst HC and Interim HC in Miami as well. 1
BillsMafia13 Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 So the GM who had a hand in bringing in almost every player on the team is gone, and the HC who players have regularly hated stays on. Thank god for the jets. 1
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