Bangarang Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 1:55 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: I bet he would get scooped up right away. Expand Do other owners have daughters his age as well?
Andrew Son Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 2:03 PM, Chandler#81 said: Yeah, yeah, he can block.. Thing is though, we don’t know how Knox & Sweeney will turn out. We have an idea about Kroft. We’re all pretty excited to be done with the oft-injured, uninspiring, costly Clay. We DO know about Smith. We -and every team he’s played for- kicked him to the curb. Expand Yes, after his 4 years with us- he stuck with the Raiders for 4 years. He's played for 2 teams. Teams really can't wait to get rid of him... 1 5
Big Turk Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 2:05 PM, LabattBlue said: Just saw Croom walking out of Kay Jewelers. Has to get that ring on her finger before things go south. Expand Hahahahaha
MJS Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 1:22 PM, LABILLBACKER said: 1 yr maybe but 3 is foolish. He'll be 32 in November. Averages 8 catches for 75 yards? Odd signing. Expand He's a blocking TE.
HerdMenatlity1 Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) Considering what we've had at tight end and what is left on the market, I'll gladly take him on our roster. He fits what we want to do this coming season. Sure, he's not going to catch a ton, but we want to run and take our shots downfield as they present themselves. Allen is still only in his 2nd season and might not be totally ready to start slinging the rock at will. IF Lee is mauling for us on the running plays, then the play action will work really well, even knowing he's not a target. With him in the lineup and us controlling the ball, the defense will get caught guessing run a lot when play action is called. We have Kroft and Knox as our receiving TE's already. Two TE sets might be called a lot this year. Kroft or Knox taking a safety or LB with him on a route leaves Smith to do his dirty work and creating open running areas and he will hold up well in play action. I also trust Beane got a team friendly deal done. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Smiths-Dirty-Work-Will-be-Missed-by-Raiders-396159961.html 'Lee Smith once was judged by Pro Football Focus, the analytics website, as the NFL’s best pass-blocking tight end, and he’s certainly contributed to the fact the Raiders have allowed quarterback Derek Carr to be sacked just twice this season. He’s also been a key player in the team’s No. 5 ranked rushing attack, too, that has generated 126.8 yards per game.' Edited May 13, 2019 by Dopey 3 1
Lurker Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 1:58 PM, YoloinOhio said: Expand No mention of how much that guaranteed money is, however. If it's just a million or two, I'm thinking Smith could still be cut without too much trouble if lightning strikes and the young TEs have bang up training camps...
YoloinOhio Posted May 13, 2019 Author Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 2:04 PM, blacklabel said: Smith will be that one veteran guy they're trying to make sure they have in every room. I think they keep four and it'll be Kroft, Knox, Croom, and Smith, with Sweeney to the PS. Expand That’s really the biggest thing to me imo. They have a lot of TEs but they are mostly young and inexperienced players at the position. TE is a very difficult position to learn in the NFL and rookies rarely make an early impact. Kroft wasthe only vet, but even he is relatively inexperienced since he’s been mostly a backup and missed a lot of games due to injury. They really needed someone who knows what he’s doing in the blocking game. 3 1
LabattBlue Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 2:08 PM, Dopey said: Considering what we've had at tight end and what is left on the market, I'll gladly take him on our roster. He fits what we want to do this coming season. Sure, he's not going to catch a ton, but we want to run and take our shots downfield as they present themselves. Allen is still only in his 2nd season and might not be totally ready to start slinging the rock at will. IF Lee is mauling for us on the running plays, then the play action will work really well, even knowing he's not a target. With him in the lineup and us controlling the ball, the defense will get caught guessing run a lot when play action is called. We have Kroft and Knox as our receiving TE's already. Two TE sets might be called a lot this year. Kroft of Knox taking a safety or LB with him on a route leaves Smith to do his dirty work and creating open running areas and he will hold up well in play action. I also trust Beane got a team friendly deal done. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Smiths-Dirty-Work-Will-be-Missed-by-Raiders-396159961.html 'Lee Smith once was judged by Pro Football Focus, the analytics website, as the NFL’s best pass-blocking tight end, and he’s certainly contributed to the fact the Raiders have allowed quarterback Derek Carr to be sacked just twice this season. He’s also been a key player in the team’s No. 5 ranked rushing attack, too, that has generated 126.8 yards per game.' Expand If he is that good, why wasn’t he scooped up in FA before now...enquiring minds want to know?
blacklabel Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 2:09 PM, YoloinOhio said: That’s really the biggest thing to me imo. They have a lot of TEs but they are mostly young and inexperienced players at the position. TE is a very difficult position to learn in the NFL and rookies rarely make an early impact. Kroft wasthe only vet, but even he is relatively inexperienced since he’s been mostly a backup and missed a lot of games due to injury. They really needed someone who knows what he’s doing in the blocking game. Expand Accurate. Kroft had been their longest-tenured TE with four seasons under his belt but the rest of the gang is inexperienced. Croom started college as a wide receiver, Jake Fisher played tackle until this year, Knox played QB in high school which actually gives him an advantageous understanding of the position, and then he and Sweeney are rookies. I gotta say, I like this group, I really do. Nothing flashy (yet, I have high hopes for Knox) but I think they've done well in addressing this area.
GunnerBill Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 1:43 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: This what worries me about this regime. They seem to have outdated ways of thinking. It’s liek signing Star. Good at one thing, completely worthless if teams pass. Smith is a glorified o linemen. Why not just keep Fisher who can fill two roles? Expand Cos Fisher sucks? 2
YoloinOhio Posted May 13, 2019 Author Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) On 5/13/2019 at 2:11 PM, LabattBlue said: If he is that good, why wasn’t he scooped up in FA before now...enquiring minds want to know? Expand He wasn’t a FA. He was just cut by the Raiders about a week or so ago. Edited May 13, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 3
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 2:01 PM, Blokestradamus said: 8 holding penalties in his NFL career. If Lee is a penalty machine, that makes me a sex machine. Expand uh, you talking self gratification ???? LOL 1
HerdMenatlity1 Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) On 5/13/2019 at 2:11 PM, LabattBlue said: If he is that good, why wasn’t he scooped up in FA before now...enquiring minds want to know? Expand Not all GM's are as smart as Beane?!?! Hell, I don't know! Seriously though, maybe a lot of GM"S are thinking they need field stretchers at TE. Smith is not that. Edited May 13, 2019 by Dopey
Lurker Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 2:09 PM, YoloinOhio said: That’s really the biggest thing to me imo. They have a lot of TEs but they are mostly young and inexperienced players at the position. TE is a very difficult position to learn in the NFL and rookies rarely make an early impact. Kroft wasthe only vet, but even he is relatively inexperienced since he’s been mostly a backup and missed a lot of games due to injury. They really needed someone who knows what he’s doing in the blocking game. Expand Agreed. It's a lock they keep four TEs now, which probably takes away the seventh slot for a WR. They'll probably try to stash Sweeney on the PS for a year and see how he progresses for 2020... 1
blacklabel Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 2:11 PM, LabattBlue said: If he is that good, why wasn’t he scooped up in FA before now...enquiring minds want to know? Expand Because he's really "just another guy" that can do some things well but there's nothing he's exceedingly great at. Players like that will often be replaced by a younger, cheaper option. Plus, Oakland is rebuilding so a lot of guys signed prior to the current front office are gonna be shown the door. Bills needed a guy with some veteran experience to help out the young group they have. He's probably a good locker room guy, too.
Augie Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 1:27 PM, plenzmd1 said: all depends on the guarantee. a $500K signing bonus, with vet min guarantee, means a 1 year deal..and if he is good they have him locked up for the 2 more. If not, they cut him Expand Agreed, they have been smart about how they structure things, and I bet they didn’t get stupid here.
LabattBlue Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 2:12 PM, YoloinOhio said: He wasn’t a FA. He was just cut by the Raiders about a week ago. Expand Thanks!! ?
Patrick Duffy Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 All cool I guess. Was kinda hoping they would land Rudolph somehow, but he will help the running game.
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 2:12 PM, GunnerBill said: Cos Fisher sucks? Expand He very well might. But you couldn’t find another guy who is more of a threat? Or just put in an extra o linemen?
MrEpsYtown Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 This is also a Bobby Johnson connection. He was the Raiders tight ends coach when they signed Lee Smith as a free agent, and was his coach 2015-2017. 5 1 2
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