BringBackFergy Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Billy Bellicheat, Sean Payton, Pete Carrol, the dude in Tampa Bay that wears the beret, and some of these high profile coaches/GM’s and trainers should be paid in accordance with the cap. I’ve heard the argument a hundred times: The Cheats only win because of two people - Brady (subject to the salary cap) and Bellycheat (not subject to cap). The Hoodie should be subject to the cap. Period end. Add to that hat the scouts, the nutritionists, the administrative staff (who handles calls, travel, orders Gatorade, etc). The playing field should be level for everyone. Can ya hear me? 3 2 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Billy Bellicheat, Sean Payton, Pete Carrol, the dude in Tampa Bay that wears the beret, and some of these high profile coaches/GM’s and trainers should be paid in accordance with the cap. I’ve heard the argument a hundred times: The Cheats only win because of two people - Brady (subject to the salary cap) and Bellycheat (not subject to cap). The Hoodie should be subject to the cap. Period end. Add to that hat the scouts, the nutritionists, the administrative staff (who handles calls, travel, orders Gatorade, etc). The playing field should be level for everyone. Can ya hear me? ..nope...ear plugs....how much do you think Pegula allowed McBeane to spend on his staff of 17+, primarily made up of former exec level personnel guys?....that check book was carte blanche so where's YOUR BEEF?...bet THAT payroll in north of $5 mil+......we could always be the Bungles with a scout staff of three, one of which is Brown's daughter....knowing him, she's at minimum wage...... Edited May 11, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy 5 1 1
1ManRaid Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 I really don't see how this could ever work. There's too many moving parts behind the scenes and would stifle creation of new positions and opportunities. 1
The Senator Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Cheerleaders as well - the Pats and most teams pay theirs, the Bills don’t. (At least Ralph didn’t - he was cheap!) . 1 1 1 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: I really don't see how this could ever work. There's too many moving parts behind the scenes and would stifle creation of new positions and opportunities. ....so we could go back to the Donohole days of paying Airhorn Greggy a whopping $900 grand as a HC.......Wade made $800 grand in 1999.....I doubt the Owners would EVER collude (COUGH) to fight for coaching staff salary reductions if part of the cap....NFLPA approves of this message....SMH...
Seasons1992 Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Yet another well-reasoned argument by my man Fergy......HEARD.
jkeerie Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Although I disagree with the original poster, I do wish they would let ALL free agent signees count against the compensatory picks formula. With only those signed prior to May 7 counting, it rewards and favors those teams who don't need a lot of high priced free agents with extra draft picks (some as high as the 3rd round) because they allow their free agents to walk, and then time the signing of replacements until after May 7, so they can sign the free agent and get the extra draft picks. Additionally, now that they can trade those compensatory picks, they can offload them in the current draft for a round higher the following year. 1
Bangarang Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 The shovelers that clear the snow at New Era should also count. 1
1st&ten Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: Billy Bellicheat, Sean Payton, Pete Carrol, the dude in Tampa Bay that wears the beret, and some of these high profile coaches/GM’s and trainers should be paid in accordance with the cap. I’ve heard the argument a hundred times: The Cheats only win because of two people - Brady (subject to the salary cap) and Bellycheat (not subject to cap). The Hoodie should be subject to the cap. Period end. Add to that hat the scouts, the nutritionists, the administrative staff (who handles calls, travel, orders Gatorade, etc). The playing field should be level for everyone. Can ya hear me? I'm sure the Pats could figure out a way to undermine this system.
Saxum Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, Bangarang said: The shovelers that clear the snow at New Era should also count. Then those who bail out Phish Park after hurricanes should too and the movers employed to move teams.
1ManRaid Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....so we could go back to the Donohole days of paying Airhorn Greggy a whopping $900 grand as a HC.......Wade made $800 grand in 1999.....I doubt the Owners would EVER collude (COUGH) to fight for coaching staff salary reductions if part of the cap....NFLPA approves of this message....SMH... There's so many damned periods in there I'm not sure what you are trying to say. 35 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: I'm sure the Pats could figure out a way to undermine this system. 3000 year contract for BB to bring his average cap hit down. Massively front loaded of course with almost all as a signing bonus or something. 1
formerlyofCtown Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Billy Bellicheat, Sean Payton, Pete Carrol, the dude in Tampa Bay that wears the beret, and some of these high profile coaches/GM’s and trainers should be paid in accordance with the cap. I’ve heard the argument a hundred times: The Cheats only win because of two people - Brady (subject to the salary cap) and Bellycheat (not subject to cap). The Hoodie should be subject to the cap. Period end. Add to that hat the scouts, the nutritionists, the administrative staff (who handles calls, travel, orders Gatorade, etc). The playing field should be level for everyone. Can ya hear me? Dude they aint part of the players union. The salary cap is tied into collective bargaining. 1
LSHMEAB Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: The shovelers that clear the snow at New Era should also count. That's outlandish. They're independent contractors and not affiliated with the team. You derailed a perfectly reasonable thread. 1
Mr. WEO Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Billy Bellicheat, Sean Payton, Pete Carrol, the dude in Tampa Bay that wears the beret, and some of these high profile coaches/GM’s and trainers should be paid in accordance with the cap. I’ve heard the argument a hundred times: The Cheats only win because of two people - Brady (subject to the salary cap) and Bellycheat (not subject to cap). The Hoodie should be subject to the cap. Period end. Add to that hat the scouts, the nutritionists, the administrative staff (who handles calls, travel, orders Gatorade, etc). The playing field should be level for everyone. Can ya hear me? The fact that coaching staff does not count against the cap IS the field leveler. Any owner can pay any salary to a HC. It's chump change.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Billy Bellicheat, Sean Payton, Pete Carrol, the dude in Tampa Bay that wears the beret, and some of these high profile coaches/GM’s and trainers should be paid in accordance with the cap. I’ve heard the argument a hundred times: The Cheats only win because of two people - Brady (subject to the salary cap) and Bellycheat (not subject to cap). The Hoodie should be subject to the cap. Period end. Add to that hat the scouts, the nutritionists, the administrative staff (who handles calls, travel, orders Gatorade, etc). The playing field should be level for everyone. Can ya hear me? Did you pass through Denver and get mushrooms ? on your salad? Dont forget all the kickbacks from TB12 facilities
Mr. WEO Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Trent Murphy and John Brown are getting paid as much or more than Belichick...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Billy Bellicheat, Sean Payton, Pete Carrol, the dude in Tampa Bay that wears the beret, and some of these high profile coaches/GM’s and trainers should be paid in accordance with the cap. I’ve heard the argument a hundred times: The Cheats only win because of two people - Brady (subject to the salary cap) and Bellycheat (not subject to cap). The Hoodie should be subject to the cap. Period end. Add to that hat the scouts, the nutritionists, the administrative staff (who handles calls, travel, orders Gatorade, etc). The playing field should be level for everyone. Can ya hear me? I hear you. I think you're Cray Cray Brady ain't subject to no stinkin' cap No reason to think Bellycheat would be either
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