Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 Just now, dollars 2 donuts said: Well...when you actually put it in writing and force me to think about it...yes, I get queasy. Please don't think you've accomplished something today, Doc. I've been queasy over this team before. I mean... washington's a FA, Raglands a starting LB for a... lets say "evolving" KC defense, and Shaq's a rotational piece on our D-line. I think what you have to evaluate on Whaley's drafting was need vs. BPA - and his trades. Moving up for Ragland - a need - got us Cardale instead of Dak - assuming you still wanted to go QB in the 4th. Supposedly ragland was 1st round talent - but only fit in a certain scheme 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Not to stick up for Whaley but the Bills and "Club Rex" were not going to get the best out of anyone who wasn't self-motivated to be the best. Rex Ryan might have been the worst hire in Bills history. I liked jaylon smith or myles jack there IIRC. Just felt like - these guys would be stud players. Neither has turned out to be incredible or anything - smith's a nice MLB tho.
DCbillsfan Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, njbuff said: Depending on Murphy's health.................... Lawson's roster spot could be in jeopardy. Cause we know the staff likes Love and drafted Darryl Johnson in the 7th round. I guess they will sign Ziggy and cut Lawson. ? If the Bills sign Ziggy, I could see them trying to trade Lawson or maybe hold onto him. He's still on a cheap rookie contract. I think it would mean that Yarbrough would be cut. Plus letting Lawson walk as a free agent may yield a comp pick. Edited May 1, 2019 by DCbillsfan
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: We said that about KB! Touché
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This one is more surprising Wow - wonder if its because he plays RT or they think they can replace him.
Reed83HOF Posted May 1, 2019 Author Posted May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This one is more surprising I would have some interest here
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, DCbillsfan said: If the Bills sign Ziggy, I could see them trying to trade Lawson or maybe hold onto him. He's still on a cheap rookie contract. I think it would mean that Yarbrough would be cut. Yeah - not having the 5th year option makes him more tradeable.
YoloinOhio Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, dneveu said: I liked jaylon smith or myles jack there IIRC. Just felt like - these guys would be stud players. Neither has turned out to be incredible or anything - smith's a nice MLB tho. They both would have gone top 10 if not for significant injury concern 1
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, dneveu said: I mean... washington's a FA, Raglands a starting LB for a... lets say "evolving" KC defense, and Shaq's a rotational piece on our D-line. I think what you have to evaluate on Whaley's drafting was need vs. BPA - and his trades. Moving up for Ragland - a need - got us Cardale instead of Dak - assuming you still wanted to go QB in the 4th. Supposedly ragland was 1st round talent - but only fit in a certain scheme Yeah, that was for joke purposes more so on my end, dneveu. You are pretty spot on with the above. And they are keeping Shaq around, but this is sort of "keep moving in the right direction" last year of the deal thing. 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Not to stick up for Whaley but the Bills and "Club Rex" were not going to get the best out of anyone who wasn't self-motivated to be the best. Rex Ryan might have been the worst hire in Bills history. I really, really do not want to dispute that, as I am inclined to agree! However, we have many deserving candidates...Jim Ringo? Kay Stephenson? Hank Bullough? A real Rogue's Gallery of ineptness to choose from. So glad it looks like our trajectory is miles ahead of those clowns now!! Edited May 1, 2019 by NoHuddleKelly12 4
Jay_Fixit Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 I remember seeing him provide little pass rush and not much burst off the edge at Clemson, and then being the exact same thing in the NFL. Rex Ryan. LOL 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: They both would have gone top 10 if not for significant injury concern Yeah - i just looked at that board and felt like - top 10 talent with injury issues... or someone at 19 who might go in the 2nd any other year.
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I really, really do not want to dispute that, as I am inclined to agree! However, we have many deserving candidates...Jim Ringo? Kay Stephenson? Hank Bullough? A real Rogue's Gallery of ineptness to choose from. So glad it looks like our trajectory is miles ahead of those clowns now!! Well said, NHK, one caveat, but someone I don't want to put on the list is harvey johnson. A long time Bills employee who was interim coach twice and had a career mark of 2-23-1. Circumstances a little beyond his control. However, his first stint helped get us OJ. Edited May 1, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts
inkman Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 34 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Lawson, Ragland, Washington, C. Jones, J. Williams Doug Whaley sure nailed that draft. I guess since I have no idea who the last 3 names are, point taken. Has it been definitely decided it was Doug's draft and not Wrecks.
Aussie Joe Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I will take that though and think Beane would too. Might get a 4th too You never know if they might need to move up two spots in the 2nd round next year with that 5th right? I would rather keep him this year instead... they get another year out of him at the very least, and possibly even a comp pick if they lose him
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 Just now, Jay_Fixit said: I remember seeing him provide little pass rush and not much burst off the edge at Clemson, and then being the exact same thing in the NFL. Rex Ryan. LOL yeah - his pursuit was the thing i noticed the most. Seemed even slower in the NFL. He's been fine though, just never developed into much of a pass rusher.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Well said, NHK, one caveat, but someone I don't want to put on the list is harvey johnson. A long time Bills employee who was interim coach twice and had a career mark of 2-23-1. However, his first stint helped get us OJ. Definitely right to always point out context Donuts, beyond just the stark numbers. And FWIW, I also did not mean for my list to be exclusive, as in the modern era plenty of additional finalists may be found (Jauron, Fewell, Williams, et. al). But hey, at least we never elevated Rich Kotite to our HC!! The Jets can never live that dude down, can they? 1
Jamie Nails Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 if he has a great season, they could always transition tag him- this would almost be the same as picking up the 5th year. 1 1
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