Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) Zay still has upside. I see Allen Hurns type ceiling possible. Which is solid possession wr. Beasley is a known commodity. Josh short game development will make or break him. Brown is a better Foster based on prior work. Both make. Easley is a Beasly clone. He’s a PS stash in my opinion. Sills, Duke fight it out for the last WR spot. Robert is a clear favorite to win KR PR. Mckenzie and Ray Ray are going to have to win every rep to even stay in the conversation Edited May 1, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood 3
Phil The Thrill Posted May 1, 2019 Author Posted May 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I think you underestimate the importance of Andre Roberts for this team as s returner. I would be absolutely shocked if he didn’t make the 53. I’m not underestimating him. That is why I penciled him in for a WR roster spot. I don’t see him getting many snaps at WR though and I also don’t see the team keeping 7 WR’s on the roster. That’s why the last WR spot is going to be very competitive 2 minutes ago, TigerJ said: I doubt players like DaMari Scott or Victor Bolden are really going to be much of a factor in any WR competition. Duke Williams, Isaiah McKenzie and maybe David Sills are the more likely players in this competition. Easley sounds like he might have some potential as a slot receiver, but he's not beating out Beasley, and I don't know that Buffalo is going to carry a guy on the roster who is only a backup slot receiver. Maybe he hooks on with the PS. Easley seems like a good candidate for the PS
BuffaloBill Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, SCBills said: We’ll see. The AFCE WR Units are trash. It’s not crazy to say that we’re some Zay Jones improvements away from having the best group in the division. To be clear, I’d love to trade for a Nelson Algholar as Zay Jones insurance, but an OL & Running Game should make these guys look a lot better. Have to agree that a running threat matters. So will a real TE a position we may not have.
Phil The Thrill Posted May 1, 2019 Author Posted May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Zay still has upside. I see Allen Hurns type ceiling possible. Which is solid possession wr. Beasley is a known commodity. Josh short game development will make or break him. Brown is a better Foster. Both make. Easily is a Beasly clone. He’s a PS stash in my opinion. Sills, Duke fight it out for the last WR spot. Robert is a clear favorite to win KR PR. Mckenzie and Ray Ray are going to have to win every rep to even stay in the conversation So you think they keep 7 WR’s including Roberts? I don’t see that happening
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: So you think they keep 7 WR’s including Roberts? I don’t see that happening 5wr + 1 return specialist is where I am 6 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Zay (1) still has upside. I see Allen Hurns type ceiling possible. Which is solid possession wr. Beasley (2) is a known commodity. Josh short game development will make or break him. Brown is a better Foster based on prior work. Both make. (3&4) Easley is a Beasly clone. He’s a PS stash in my opinion. Sills, Duke fight it out for the last WR spot. (5) Robert is a clear favorite to win KR PR. (6) Mckenzie and Ray Ray are going to have to win every rep to even stay in the conversation
Rc2catch Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 I think the receiving group looks amazing honestly. They all bring their own unique thing to the team. I do think it’s gonna be Brown Foster Beasley Zay Roberts then whoever wins 6. But I don’t think it’ll be McKenzie Roberts is our returner, but I think he’ll also get used on the offense similar to McKenzie last year with jet sweeps and screens etc etc that kinda “weapon” The rest will surely have a heck of a battle for that one spot.
BADOLBILZ Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, lacoy38 said: These WR “groups “ are only as good as the QB. Allen needs to improve- I think he will. Biggest area of beef is the Offensive line. Improvement there will make everyone look better . Our GM/ coach are going off Carolina model that went to a Super Bowl with Tedd Ginn as top wide out. That's the problem. The blueprint of recently successful teams breaking in young QB's is putting WR's in place that can elevate those QB's game. The Bills are giving Allen a bottom 1/3 of the league WR corps and seeing if he sinks or swims. 1
billsfan_34 Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 I don’t know if anyone is locked in- it is going to be a big battle imo.
SCBills Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Have to agree that a running threat matters. So will a real TE a position we may not have. I like Kroft. We’re at least where we were last year with broken down Clay & Croom. Whether we upgrade is up to Knox.
Kirby Jackson Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Sure, but it's a bit of a disappointment on how they went about it THIS offseason.... it's a crucial year for the team and Allen and they didn't give him many if any match up advantages at the receiving position. Saying wait till next year is just a ***** way to go about things, IMO. I don’t disagree but I’d say they tried. They tried to get the best WR in the league. This draft wasn’t full of number 1 receivers and that’s what the Bills need. They have plenty of guys that can be 2-6. They have guys that have capably filled those roles already. A matchup problem would be great but who? It’s like saying “we are drafting a QB this year” and then getting stuck with EJ Manuel because he’s the best available. I’m on record as saying a swing at DK in round 2 would have been a good idea. He COULD become that number 1. It’s just hard when the guys aren’t out there. Edited May 1, 2019 by Kirby Jackson 2 1
PromoTheRobot Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 Duke Williams playing strong enough be part of this offense would be a very good thing. 1
TigerJ Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 7 WRs, 4 RBs, and 4 TEs? Not happening. The reality is teams don't get that much production out of fourth and fifth receivers. Sixth and seventh receivers are almost never going to see the field. roster spots are generally too precious to waste like that. Running backs take a lot more of a beating, and it's easier to see 4 RBs (plus a FB) on a roster than 7 WRs. Teams will ordinarily want at least 3 TEs because 2 TR formations are pretty common and teams like to have a spare in case of injury. Its not unusual to see teams carry a couple extra TEs, as some teams sometimes like to use three TE formations on occasion. Tight ends are much more useful in the running game, and can be just as effective in the passing game, if they're good.
LSHMEAB Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Lurker said: Based on what? I don't know much about him but the stats look a little meh. What are we getting in this little guy? Isaiah McKenzie Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb Career 19 1 43 22 208 9.5 0 23 1.2 10.9 51.2% 4.8 11 70 2 15 6.4 3.7 0.6 33 8.4 278 2 8 2 yrs DEN 12 0 13 4 29 7.3 0 14 0.3 2.4 30.8% 2.2 1 4 0 4 4.0 0.3 0.1 5 6.6 33 0 6 1 yr BUF 7 1 30 18 179 9.9 0 23 2.6 25.6 60.0% 6.0 10 66 2 15 6.6 9.4 1.4 28 8.8 245 2 2017 22 DEN 84 11 0 13 4 29 7.3 0 14 0.4 2.6 30.8% 2.2 1 4 0 4 4.0 0.4 0.1 5 6.6 33 0 6 2018 23 2TM 8 1 30 18 179 9.9 0 23 2.3 22.4 60.0% 6.0 10 66 2 15 6.6 8.3 1.3 28 8.8 245 2 2 BUF wr 19 7 1 30 18 179 9.9 0 23 2.6 25.6 6.0 10 66 2 15 6.6 9.4 1.4 28 8.8 245 2 2 See those 10 rushes for 66 yards and 2 TD's? IIRC, the majority of those yards came in the last few games. I think Daboll would love to expand on that and also get him the ball in the flat. The guy can be a weapon.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 Why must a team have a number 1 receiver? What's wrong with a number of competent wideouts that give Allen multiple options and pose problems for defenses? The Duke Williams experiment could prove very interesting. 1
ehfeuh57 Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 right now i, and i think they, like Isaah Mckenzie BUT A LOT CAN HAPPEN BEFORE FINAL CUTS, may want someone with size, also Zay is at risk
Locomark Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 McKenzie and Roberts make it as 5,6 because they can provide return and jet sweep abilities. I think we could even go with 7 WRs this year if we plan on being spread and keep a bunch of OL that play multiple positions. My opinion is that Sills has no chance because she showed no ability to get open during senior bowl week against press and at WV he was often not pressed. There is a reason he didn’t get drafted! Williams is a big wish upon a star but his frame would be a great skill set for us.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 Why keep an average or below average WR? Honestly I would rather they keep an extra o-line like Bodine and/or Teller. Half of these guys who get cut will be available later in the year if they have injuries.
akcash Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 It'd be nice if Sills and D. Williams both turned out and both made the team. 1
formerlyofCtown Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Just not a good looking group of recievers. Cross your fingers nobody gets seriously hurt. I think McKenzie makes the team as one of your WRs. I disagree. Its a solid group. Just like NE has had. Better than what Cam had his MVP season.
StHustle Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 7 WR will be on the final 53 Brown Beasley Foster Zay Duke Sills Roberts Might not be the 7 but I guarantee we keep 6 PLUS Roberts. Because Roberts returns punts and kicks at a pro bowl level we can afford this luxury. He is a top 2 return man in the league and can totally change complexions of games. Totally worth a roster spot comitted to that. Why should we essentially carry only 5 WRs cause thats Roberts position? If he was a CB should we count him against the CBs? If he was a RB do we cut Gore or Yeldon to keep him? Cant think inside the box all the time.
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