unbillievable Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) Vision is the most important trait for a RB. He can be a Freddy Jackson type where he'll get you consistent yardage, and occasionally break a long run, before getting tackled from behind. What I don't like is his pass blocking. In the tape he blocked 4 times... and missed 3 of them. Two things that will keep a talented RB on the bench... pass blocking and fumbling. He may be too short to fumble. Edited April 30, 2019 by unbillievable
ngbills Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 42 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said: Think, Travis Henry. Similar. Henry actually had a better 40 time, better 10 and 20 yd split times and better bench, jumps etc too.
Doc Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, elroy16 said: On WGR, Beane said Singletary wasn't asked to catch many passes in college, so during a private workout they had him run routes and catch passes and he did a good job of it. Singletary said he did some catching drills at the combine to show off his hands as well. Sounds like he can do it, he just wasn't asked to in college. Good to hear. Thanks. 1
BringBackOrton Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 18 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: His change of pace is really strong and he finishes. I really liked the pick and think he may be the number 1 in 2020. I remember watching him in the FAU/UCF game and he was the second best player on the field behind Milton. He was legitimately carrying FAU to compete vs UCF, their QB could not complete a pass. Huge concerns with size, but he's a baller.
947 Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) I was most impressed by his balance. Every time he breaks a tackle, he perfectly regains his balance & accelerates again. That's a rare trait, really impressive. His vision & patience are reminiscent of LeVeon Bell. His top-end speed isn't all that great, but he gets to top speed so fast, that may not matter too much. This guy could be a really good NFL RB. Edited April 30, 2019 by 947 1
Alphadawg7 Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) Lets clear some myths up here on Devin: Myth 1 - He is small. Nope, he is short but not small by any means at over 200 pounds. In fact, he was run to no end by Kiffin, still didnt miss a game despite playing very physical style. He is quite strong and was one of the toughest guys in all of college to tackle. Myth 2 - He is slow. Nope, his 40 forty time home run speed was mediocre, but he is far from slow. He has explosive acceleration and that is how he gets away from everyone making him very elusive and plays so fast. Its NOT how fast you can run in shorts in a straight line when someone says go, its how fast you can move your feet to make a guy miss and ACCELERATE past him. NOTE: Most RB's dont bust super long TD runs, and the ones who do only do it a few times a year generally, if that. More important to get a guy who can find the hole, and explode through it with acceleration to get you those 5 to 10 yard chunks to move the chains or get in the end zone. Myth 3 - He cant catch. Nope, he can catch and did well both when given those opportunities and in workouts. His receiving numbers were low only because they just did not have that as part of their offense or asked him to do much of it. This kid is a much better prospect than the combine and stat box analysts are giving him credit for. Very excited to see him on the field. He may or may not succeed, no one knows what these kids will or wont be once the pads are on...but I do know he is a LEGIT RB prospect and someone to be excited about. Edited May 1, 2019 by Alphadawg7 1 1
Lurker Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Why do ppl equi being short to being small? The guy is over TWO HUNDRED POUNDS at what...5-7? Makes him a bowling ball Barry Sanders was the same size. Just saying...
ghostwriter Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 19 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: he's a little fella. He may be 5'7 but 6ypc is 6ypc. Doesn't matter if you're 8'8.
Lurker Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 2 hours ago, MDH said: Will he be able to scoot through those holes when they close a lot faster? Forty times are useful in the open field, but in the trenches and close to the LOS I think quickness is more important. Closing speed in those situations won't be tied to how fast the tackler can sprint, it will be more about how well they can do a 3-cone. After all, a 5.0 YPC average for a RB is a fantastic number. If he can "win" that match up over and over, we should be OK with him getting chased down more easily on his 10- and 20-yard carries...
ghostwriter Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, ngbills said: Similar. Henry actually had a better 40 time, better 10 and 20 yd split times and better bench, jumps etc too. I see a more powerful Darren Sproles. Doesn't have the top end of a Barry Sanders but similar lateral agility and cutting ability.
Rob's House Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 My concern is that with his combine measurements he'll be limited to a role as a football player. He's unlikely to offer anything in the track game.
Bockeye Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lets clear some myths up here on Devin: Myth 1 - He is small. Nope, he is short but not small by any means at over 200 pounds. In fact, he was run to no end by Kiffin, still didnt miss a game despite playing very physical style. He is quite strong and was one of the toughest guys in all of college to tackle. Myth 2 - He is slow. Nope, his 40 forty time home run speed was mediocre, but he is far from slow. He has explosive acceleration and that is how he gets away from everyone making him very elusive and plays so fast. Its how fast you can run in shorts in a straight line when someone says go, its how fast you can move your feet to make a guy miss and ACCELERATE past him. NOTE: Most RB's dont bust super long TD runs, and the ones who do only do it a few times a year generally, if that. More important to get a guy who can find the hole, and explode through it with acceleration to get you those 5 to 10 yard chunks to move the chains or get in the end zone. Myth 3 - He cant catch. Nope, he can catch and did well both when given those opportunities and in workouts. His receiving numbers were low only because they just did not have that as part of their offense or asked him to do much of it. This kid is a much better prospect than the combine and stat box analysts are giving him credit for. Very excited to see him on the field. He may or may not succeed, no one knows what these kids will or wont be once the pads are on...but I do know he is a LEGIT RB prospect and someone to be excited about. Great points! Posted the link to this article in the Singletary draft thread, but to your Myth #2 Alpha Another thing to consider when weighing the importance of the 40-Yard Dash for running backs is the rarity of game opportunities when a player can run 40 yards in a relatively straight direction. When we narrow the definition of "big plays" to touchdown runs of 50+ yards, looking at the all-time records for this parameter, we see some surprising numbers that expose how uncommon it really is. Here are the NFL running backs with the most career touchdown runs over 50 yards (based on stats through 2016). Barry Sanders – 15, averaged one 50-plus-yard TD every 204 carries. Adrian Peterson – 14, averaged one 50-plus-yard TD every 172 carries Jim Brown – 12, averaged one 50-plus-yard TD every 197 carries Chris Johnson (the fastest athlete in the history of the NFL Combine) – 12, averaged one 50-plus-yard TD run for every 178 carries https://www.stack.com/a/why-the-40-yard-dash-is-overrated-as-a-test-for-running-backs 1 1
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: He may be 5'7 but 6ypc is 6ypc. Doesn't matter if you're 8'8. said nothing about ability, just said he's a little fella. looking at him around other players (college level, even larger at the next level) he looks like, a little fella.
CEN-CAL17 Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 Can he catch the ball? Is he a threat out of the backfield?
Doc Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: Can he catch the ball? Is he a threat out of the backfield? We shall see. The Bills seem to think he can be.
HOUSE Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 Wow, that guy sure knows how to use his blockers. Amazing
YoloinOhio Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) On 4/29/2019 at 8:59 PM, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: he's a little fella. Short but not little. He’s over 200 lbs. he has a low center of gravity and powerful legs which will help him avoid injury as defenders need to get lower to tackle him. Edited May 1, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Short but not little. He’s over 200 lbs. he has a low center of gravity and powerful legs which will help him avoid injury as defenders need to get lower to tackle him. he's a 200 # little fella.
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