White Linen Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: Well, that is what will happen of course. In the meantime , it’s the offseason ! As fans hanging out on a message board, possibilities will be discussed. If you find this practice pointless, check back in when the season starts. Relax and don't tell me what to do. I merely meant we're not desperate anymore to be playing these games anymore. There's real competition and hoping on top of hope things work out seems in the rearview. Oh wow is it the off season?
BuffAlone Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 Dawkins-Spain-Morse-Teller/Long-Ford Nsehke is our swing tackle Long backs up Morse Feliciano backs up the Guards
PirateHookerMD Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) Get the best players on the field. Dawkins Spain or Long Morse Ford Nsehke Long or Spain and Waddle backups/swing roles. Ford transitions to right tackle next year, and might kick out to tackle in the event of an injury to Nsehke. Long can play all 3 spots so probably gets the value nod in the swing role, assuming Spain beats him out. Bodine/Teller/Feliciano fighting for last spot. Bias goes to teller as we picked him,. We actually have so many bodies that I could see us trading someone towards the end of camp. Edited April 28, 2019 by PirateHookerMD 1
PirateHookerMD Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffAlone said: Dawkins-Spain-Morse-Teller/Long-Ford Nsehke is our swing tackle Long backs up Morse Feliciano backs up the Guards Id keep waddle over Feliciano. Long can backup all 3 interior. Bodine outside chance if he can show he can play some guard although he's likely cut. Edited April 28, 2019 by PirateHookerMD
BuffAlone Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, PirateHookerMD said: Id keep waddle over Feliciano At Guard?
PirateHookerMD Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: At Guard? No, Long can backup all 3 interior spots. Ford gives you flexibility at guard or right tackle. I think the Spain signing cuts Feliciano unless there is injury or they keep him over Teller. Long was bad at center last year but apparently because he was hurt, and its not like Bodine was lighting it up either. Waddle is a much more valuable player as a swing tackle than Feliciano as a backup interior player. Edited April 28, 2019 by PirateHookerMD
GunnerBill Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 To me the starting 5 has one real battle and I believe it is for RG between Long, Feliciano and arguably Wyat Teller (he is a long shot). Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Long/Feliciano - Ford I would edge towards Long at RG but knowing how this regime liked to have Groy as the swing guy off the bench so that if an interior guy went down you only ever change one position instead of two I could see Feliciano starting and Long backing up. Ty Nsehke will be the swing tackle. He is a backup. Always has been a backup and will continue to be a backup. He was also the insurance in case an offensive tackle didn't get to them in the draft.
Simon Says Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 Interesting....some of you can find a spot for Teller,Neseche, Feliciano or Waddle,et al. Nobody mentions Bodine. Experienced starter at center (mediocre maybe,but experienced). Could play guard in a pinch. Long might be competing for a guard spot,Morse has injury concerns. Seems premature to write off Bodine 1
GreggTX Posted April 28, 2019 Author Posted April 28, 2019 Why start Nsekhe? He's a very average to below average OT. Everyone talks like he's an above average OT. He's an above average backup. 1
Heavy Kevi Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 I have no idea. There are too many guys I don't know that well. But wasn't the idea of Dawkins at LT that he was really good at LT but sucked at RT? (Unless that was Cordy?) Then I would say Dion stays at LT, and he's obviously not getting benched. I see LT and C as the only truly projectable starters.
The Jokeman Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 LT Dawkins LG Spain C Morse RG Long RT Ford Reserves: Nsekhe, Teller, Feleciano and Waddle. 7 hours ago, Georgie said: Interesting....some of you can find a spot for Teller,Neseche, Feliciano or Waddle,et al. Nobody mentions Bodine. Experienced starter at center (mediocre maybe,but experienced). Could play guard in a pinch. Long might be competing for a guard spot,Morse has injury concerns. Seems premature to write off Bodine Long and Feliciano's have played C in the league before but offer more position flexibility than Bodine. Yet I wouldn't be shocked if we keep him over Teller.
MrEpsYtown Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: To me the starting 5 has one real battle and I believe it is for RG between Long, Feliciano and arguably Wyat Teller (he is a long shot). Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Long/Feliciano - Ford I would edge towards Long at RG but knowing how this regime liked to have Groy as the swing guy off the bench so that if an interior guy went down you only ever change one position instead of two I could see Feliciano starting and Long backing up. Ty Nsehke will be the swing tackle. He is a backup. Always has been a backup and will continue to be a backup. He was also the insurance in case an offensive tackle didn't get to them in the draft. Dawkins-Spain-Morse-Long-Ford Agree with Gunner 100%. Feliciano is a coach Johnson guy, but I think Long is the more talented player. Who ever loses the job becomes the main interior backup. Feliciano can also play center. That said, I think it makes some sense to keep Bodine on the roster as the backup center so that Feliciano and Long can focus on being guards. People are definitely sleeping on Long. Nsehke will will be the swing. People need to get off the Dawkins to guard bandwagon. Beane said in his presser that they will have Dawkins at LT that they will try Ford at RT and that he's could also play guard, and the Nsehke gives them some felxibilty becuase he can play both left and right tackle,He said the best two tackles will start, acknowledging that Ford cannot play right. He did not mention Waddle. So in theory the only way all three of those guys starts is if Ford moves to guard...At least in the eyes of Beane. Our regime wants Dawkins and Ford to be the starting tackles imo. Edited April 28, 2019 by MrEpsYtown
GunnerBill Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Dawkins-Spain-Morse-Long-Ford Agree with Gunner 100%. Feliciano is a coach Johnson guy, but I think Long is the more talented player. Who ever loses the job becomes the main interior backup. Feliciano can also play center. That said, I think it makes some sense to keep Bodine on the roster as the backup center so that Feliciano and Long can focus on being guards. People are definitely sleeping on Long. Nsehke will will be the swing. People need to get off the Dawkins to guard bandwagon. Beane said in his presser that they will have Dawkins at LT that they will try Ford at RT and that he's could also play guard, and the Nsehke gives them some felxibilty becuase he can play both left and right tackle,He said the best two tackles will start, acknowledging that Ford cannot play right. He did not mention Waddle. So in theory the only way all three of those guys starts is if Ford moves to guard...At least in the eyes of Beane. Our regime wants Dawkins and Ford to be the starting tackles imo. Agree. Beane basically set the depth chart and then checked himself and said "of course we will put the best two tackles on the field." But there is no doubt in my mind as to what they want to happen. Ty was the insurance in case the draft fell a different way and is the insurance in case Ford takes longer to transition to the NFL. If they have to throw Ty out at RT until week 4 or week 6 or whenever the bye is they will. But the chances of this line being Ty at left tackle and Ford at right with Dawkins at guard are next to nil based on yesterday's presser. 1
quincy Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 Dawkins Spain Morse Ford Nsekhe - the largest line we can field or Dawkins Spain Morse Long Ford - the most likely variant. Hard on Nsekhe with lineup two, I hope there is a fair LT competition with best man winning the starting role. Wonder whether Spain being on a one year contract will also be a factor as from what I have read, he is a specialist LG. 1
Aussie Joe Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 21 hours ago, Dkollidas said: LT- Dawkins- Waddle LG-Spain- Teller C-Morse- Long RG-Ford- Feliciano RT-Nsekhe- Ford* They keep nine offensive lineman. Ford starts at guard, if an injury happens to Dawkins, Nsekhe goes to LT, Ford to RT, Feliciano or Long to RG. they have a lot of nice options I think they go with these nine as well.. I can’t predict the starters at this stage but I hope it is settled relatively early in camp so the starting line up gets plenty of practice time together.. Compared to this time last year I am so confident with how the OL is shaping up - Beane has been so thorough over these past 2 months putting this line up together., Only gnawing little voice in the back of my mind is Spain- why did they get him so cheap??
MrEpsYtown Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Only gnawing little voice in the back of my mind is Spain- why did they get him so cheap?? I was thinking about this as well. I think he did not get the offers he thought he would in the first phase of free agency. After that I think he was really smart to take the best deal he could before the draft. All those dudes out there in free agency who did not take deals before the draft are going to have an even harder finding a job now. So I think tat is why Spain took a lowball deal. As to why there was little interest? Who knows. Stuff like that happens all of the time and guys fall through the cracks. 1
Green Lightning Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 21 hours ago, Peace Frog said: LT Nsekhe LG Spain C Morse RG Dawkins RT Ford This will be your line up. Solid.
Big Turk Posted April 29, 2019 Posted April 29, 2019 23 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: The Way I think you put the best 5 on the field is: LT- Ty Nsekhe LG-Dion Dawkins OC- Mitch Morse RG-Spain/Long/Teller RT- Ford Why would you move Dawkins to guard when Ford can play guard? Basically all you need to do is put Ford in at LG...why move players to 3 different positions on the line when you only need to change 1?? 1
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