SCBills Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: The problem is, there will inevitably be a better tackle taken later. You should never trade up for a non-QB. Better LB went after Edmunds, better lineman went after Dawkins, and better WR after Zay. Would Cody have fallen? Who knows. We lost a pick, again. Teams don’t just give away picks for fun. Fairly certain we knew there was a chance Ford wouldn’t last until 40. (Other teams can trade up too). Same with packaging our two-4ths to grab Knox in the 3rd. I don’t think it’s a coincidence the Pats immediately traded down after we jumped them and made the pick. 1 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Manther said: T.J. Graham was a terrible chest catcher. ...WHOA!!...had to be a shining star at SOMETHING?...after all, we snookered everybody and took him before Russell, right?..........
mcdamit Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 I am excited about this player. It has been forever since the Bills had one of the Athletic game breaking tight ends
hemma Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 Add it all up and I think we can be a 24 pts a game team. Big jump from 16.8, but I think we have the players to do it, along with an OC that can put together a good, flexible plan each week.
billsfan1959 Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Elite Poster said: The problem is, there will inevitably be a better tackle taken later. You should never trade up for a non-QB. Better LB went after Edmunds, better lineman went after Dawkins, and better WR after Zay. Would Cody have fallen? Who knows. We lost a pick, again. And you should never post when you are not sober... 2
3rdand12 Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: And you should never post when you are not sober... well that leaves me out ... I like this pick. and i like this Kid. he will be on the field early and making plays. perhaps even scoring TDs for us ; ) i see they picked up another TE as well by now. good move by Beanes. and i wanted TJ but was even more delighted with Oliver. Then wanted Fant but loved the Ford pick. gotta trust the FO on these matters. Go Bills 2
Tcali Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Watching Knox he catches everything with his HANDS OUT... That is all I need to see till TC. good point
billsfan1959 Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: well that leaves me out ... I like this pick. and i like this Kid. he will be on the field early and making plays. perhaps even scoring TDs for us ; ) i see they picked up another TE as well by now. good move by Beanes. and i wanted TJ but was even more delighted with Oliver. Then wanted Fant but loved the Ford pick. gotta trust the FO on these matters. Go Bills I think, by the time preseason ends, Knox is going to surprise a lot of people. I was a Hock fan as well and I think there are a lot of similarities between him and Knox. Different programs, different philosophies, different talents around them. Had Knox been on a team like Iowa, I am not so sure he wouldn't have put up some similar numbers. Let's hope! 2 1
billspro Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 Knox is a legit prospect, he is very similar to George Kittle coming out. He has a pretty good chance to be the best TE in this class and that is saying something because I’m a huge Hockenson fan. 1
Tcali Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: I am talking about Chest Catchers, guys that wait for the ball to come to them are always garbage. Guys that instinctively put there hands out are already better b.c you cannot really teach that, either the player will do it or they never learn. the only great chest catcher i can recall was Jerry Butler...but he had such great talent and an instinct there that you couldnt teach. you are correct most chest catchers are a disaster
Cripple Creek Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Elite Poster said: You should never trade up for a non-QB. We lost a pick, again. you still aren't keeping up with your user name 3 1
billsfan1959 Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: you still aren't keeping up with your user name He should be sued for false advertising....
3rdand12 Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 54 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I think, by the time preseason ends, Knox is going to surprise a lot of people. I was a Hock fan as well and I think there are a lot of similarities between him and Knox. Different programs, different philosophies, different talents around them. Had Knox been on a team like Iowa, I am not so sure he wouldn't have put up some similar numbers. Let's hope! Hope Bills can Coach him up to his potential. I am beginning to have more faith about Coaching and programs in Buffalo. Still traumatized from Rex Ryan days .. 1
Andrew Son Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 This probably spells the end for DiMarco. Knox shows a ton of lead blocking on his tape, pretty effective at it. 5
WideNine Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said: I think, by the time preseason ends, Knox is going to surprise a lot of people. I was a Hock fan as well and I think there are a lot of similarities between him and Knox. Different programs, different philosophies, different talents around them. Had Knox been on a team like Iowa, I am not so sure he wouldn't have put up some similar numbers. Let's hope! That is where I am at. I am still a bit salty that we did not move up enough to get in front of the Jags and grab Josh Oliver, and I feel the RB in the 3rd was a bit of a reach where he was taken. The measurables are a head-scratcher, but he seems to be baller when you look at the tape, just think he would have been there in the 4th, but who knows - maybe they had some intel that he was being targeted by another team and he was BPA there for more than the Bills. I was pretty vocal about the guys I wanted at TE and we didn't get them - moving on. I am not such a homer that I will simply ignore Knox's lack of TD's or the catching ratio of 15 to 28 targets in 2018; Those two things concern me and rightfully so. It is not like Beane and Co. never make mistakes (exhibit A. Kelvin Benjamin). It is alright to doubt some of their decisions, does not mean that I do not like the direction overall that they are taking this franchise. Re: Knox, he does have very similar measurables to Hockenson, is a decent blocker in space, and did not come out of a school that is known for coaching up their TE's so maybe the untapped potential is there - sure hands are a big deal for me if you plan to run a lot of spread offense and need to move the sticks in increments. I am not going to do the chicken little thing and say the sky is falling, I love what we are doing with the trenches and I am chill with waiting to see where this goes. Edited April 28, 2019 by WideNine
Doc Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, WideNine said: That is where I am at. I am still a bit salty that we did not move up enough to get in front of the Jags and grab Oliver, and I feel the RB in the 3rd was a bit of a reach where he was taken. The measurables are a head-scratcher, but he seems to be baller when you look at the tape, just think he would have been there in the 4th, but who knows - maybe they had some intel that he was being targeted by another team and he was BPA there for more than the Bills. I was pretty vocal about the guys I wanted at TE and we didn't get them - moving on. I am not such a homer that I will simply ignore Knox's lack of TD's or the catching ratio of 15 to 28 targets in 2018; Those two things concern me and rightfully so. It is not like Beane and Co. never make mistakes (exhibit A. Kelvin Benjamin). It is alright to doubt some of their decisions, does not mean that I do not like the direction overall that they are taking this franchise. Re: Knox, he does have very similar measurables to Hockenson, is a decent blocker in space, and did not come out of a school that is known for coaching up their TE's so maybe the untapped potential is there - sure hands are a big deal for me if you plan to run a lot of spread offense and need to move the sticks in increments. I am not going to do the chicken little thing and say the sky is falling, I love what we are doing with the trenches and I am chill with waiting to see where this goes. Huh?
WideNine Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Huh? Josh Oliver TE.... NE and apparently the Jags both had him targeted. Understand the confusion....will edit.
ColoradoBills Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 45 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Hope Bills can Coach him up to his potential. I am beginning to have more faith about Coaching and programs in Buffalo. Still traumatized from Rex Ryan days .. I just watched a clip on Youtube were Rex was defending the Daniel Jones pick. He should of stuck as a DC.
WideNine Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I just watched a clip on Youtube were Rex was defending the Daniel Jones pick. He should of stuck as a DC. Amazing to me that the Ryan's old man Buddy was known as a team disciplinarian who ran a tight ship. And Wrecks ran the NFL's version of Animal House. 3
Doc Posted April 28, 2019 Posted April 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, WideNine said: Josh Oliver TE.... NE and apparently the Jags both had him targeted. Understand the confusion....will edit. Ah. Well the Cheaters has the pick right after Knox and traded down.
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