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24 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

Wow...for just the 62nd pick?   Big discount from last year!   

 

Arizona finally realizes they aren't going to get a big price for him.

 

 

 

 

And...Arizona had to throw a 2020 5th Miami's way, as well.

Posted
3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Umm, Josh Allen pretty much sucked too ....

Neither Allen nor Rosen were put into a position to succeed

 

One looked like he was cast from a cookie cutter

The other broke the mold

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2 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Interesting

 

2007 - Drew Bees/Philip Rivers

Miami passes on Drew Brees

 

2019 - Josh Rosen/Kyler Murray

Miami trades for Josh Rosen

 

Dont make the same mistake twice.

Can’t wait to play the fish , there was only one QB that wished BAD THINGS for him especially when we play him , now there’s two 

 

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

Neither Allen nor Rosen were put into a position to succeed

 

One looked like he was cast from a cookie cutter

The other broke the mold

 

The blind love and excuses that people have for Rosen is off the charts.  I’ve never seen anything like it.

 

also the difference is this - Rosen was though of to be the most “pro ready.”  The guy who can start Week 1.  The most ready but who has the lowest ceiling.

 

Allen by all account was considered more of a project.  A QB who was not ready to start and needed time to develop.

 

The difference is Allen exceed expectations by most and Rosen disappointed.  Both had  bad supporting casts.  

 

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1 minute ago, Putin said:

Can’t wait to play the fish , there was only one QB that wished BAD THINGS for him especially when we play him , now there’s two 

 

 

Miami plan should be

 

2019

Start Fitz until Playoff Elimination.  Start Rosen until end of Season

 

2020

Start Rosen and let chips fall.

 

2021

Play 1st Round QB if everything has failed the previous 2 seasons.

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

 

Miami plan should be

 

2019

Start Fitz until Playoff Elimination.  Start Rosen until end of Season

 

2020

Start Rosen and let chips fall.

 

2021

Play 1st Round QB if everything has failed the previous 2 seasons.

 

 

This idea is not good.  You give the QB that you traded a 2nd pick for a chance to win the competition.

Posted
1 minute ago, BillyWhiteShows said:

 

This idea is not good.  You give the QB that you traded a 2nd pick for a chance to win the competition.

 

Theres no rush.  I would need a season vet to help the offense get in sync with the new offensive philosophies.  Plus I appreciate the longevity Rosen as Plan B presents over Fitz being the Plan B.

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5 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

 

Theres no rush.  I would need a season vet to help the offense get in sync with the new offensive philosophies.  Plus I appreciate the longevity Rosen as Plan B presents over Fitz being the Plan B.

 

I wouldn’t do it this way.  I don’t think Miami considers Rosen their future QB yet.  There didn’t draft him and while they traded a 2nd round pick, they are getting a QB on a rookie deal without having to pay any guaranteed money.  

 

If you’re Miami you don’t know if he’s the future, so you need to give him as many opportunities in 2019 to find out.  If he’s not, you can try again in 2020 

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23 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said:

 

This idea is not good.  You give the QB that you traded a 2nd pick for a chance to win the competition.

I agree with ^^^ 

He was supposed to be most NFL ready out of the 5 in last year’s draft ,

 

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On 4/25/2019 at 6:45 PM, whatdrought said:

 

Based on what everyone else says, that would be a major overpay. 

Not when considering the QBs in this draft.  Rosens issues arent talent they are his attitude and how he copes with things.

1 hour ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Interesting

 

2007 - Drew Bees/Philip Rivers

Miami passes on Drew Brees

 

2019 - Josh Rosen/Kyler Murray

Miami trades for Josh Rosen

 

Dont make the same mistake twice.

Id take Rosen over Murray.

Posted
34 minutes ago, Putin said:

I agree with ^^^ 

He was supposed to be most NFL ready out of the 5 in last year’s draft ,

 

You can be NFL ready but it helps to have an offensive line.  Allen's production, without an OL, included a lot of running yardage.  Rosen is a different kind of quarterback.

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I'd rather play Rosen twice a year, every year over FitzMagic. 

I know it was a small sample size, but so was Allen last year. I could legit see him being out of the league in 3-5 years. 

 

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If you believe in veteran QBs mentoring younger players, Fitz would seem to be about as good as it gets.  If Rosen isn't a complete knucklehead, he could learn a lot.  Hopefully not, though.

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Posted
1 hour ago, ExWNYer said:

 

And...Arizona had to throw a 2020 5th Miami's way, as well.

 

@KD in CA Mea culpa. I got this wrong...Arizona received the 2020 5th, not Miami.

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