Wo-Bah Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 The Chiefs can have him, at that price. Too expensive for me. 2
Stank_Nasty Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: Comes down to what they want. If Houston wants to move up that would bring Buffalo into it. Swap 1s next year 2? Could be the ticket. Seattle needed more picks. Houston has a full set of picks but may want to move up for a better Oline prospect. i'm really confused here..... all i'm saying is that if i'm the chiefs keeping ford and my picks is more valuable than just clark….. what do the bills or Houston have to do with it?
John from Riverside Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 I heard we were not in the running for it so.......moving on.
JaCrispy Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Wo-Bah said: The Chiefs can have him, at that price. Too expensive for me. Worth every penny imo
MrEpsYtown Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Clark is so much better than Ford. More production in less time. Great against the run as well and younger. 1
NewEra Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: i'm really confused here..... all i'm saying is that if i'm the chiefs keeping ford and my picks is more valuable than just clark….. what do the bills or Houston have to do with it? Unless the chiefs, who know Dee Ford better than us, don’t think he can play 4-3 DE. While i I initially agreed with you assessment, of Dee Ford sucks at DE, the chiefs made the right move because Frank Clark is a beast DE
MrEpsYtown Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 It's also a scheme fit. With KC going full time to a 4-3, I don't think Ford would hold up as an every down base defensive end. I wonder if they will still be able to keep Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill though.
Mat68 Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: i'm really confused here..... all i'm saying is that if i'm the chiefs keeping ford and my picks is more valuable than just clark….. what do the bills or Houston have to do with it? Your response and the quoted portion mentioned Clowney. At this point KC wanted to move on from ford after the playoff blunder. If he doesnt line up terribly Offside KC advances to the superbowl. Clark is a more disruptive player than Ford or Houston, with their departure they had a big need for a edge rusher.
Rochesterfan Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Couple of things: Thank god Bills didnt make this trade. Thats a lot of draft capital and money, and with a pretty good defense already, this was WAY too much for us to pay. WTF are the Chiefs doing? They just traded a first round pick, next years 2nd (main comp they got from Dee was a 2nd this year) and a swap of thirds for Frank Clark and will pay him MORE money than they would have payed Ford. In what world does this make sense for the Chiefs? Clark > Ford, but the difference is NOT this dramatic. This is as puzzling as giving Sammy $16M last year when they already had Hill, Kelce, Conley, and Hunt as weapons for Mahomes. This trade may kill all ability to get Clowney, at least for us. No way Beane trades anything close to this for Clowney and also pays him. If Houston would entertain a swap of firsts, sure, I can see Beane being at the table. But not trading away a first all together and a 2nd and future picks. NO WAY. This is to me is the puzzling piece. Essentially they traded Ford, a first, and swapped thirds for Clark. Then they pay Clark a crazy sum of money on top of that. I would rather have Ford, the first rd pick (CB’s are perhaps the sweet spot there) and the earlier 3rd. Maybe Ford does not fit what they want, but with the lack of defense they showed - not sure Clark gives them much more and the loss of the first is the killer to me. Great spot for corner back help that they need.
Nihilarian Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Great to hear as the Chiefs overpaid for Clark and I was hoping the Bills would go in a different direction.
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Rochesterfan said: This is to me is the puzzling piece. Essentially they traded Ford, a first, and swapped thirds for Clark. Then they pay Clark a crazy sum of money on top of that. I would rather have Ford, the first rd pick (CB’s are perhaps the sweet spot there) and the earlier 3rd. Maybe Ford does not fit what they want, but with the lack of defense they showed - not sure Clark gives them much more and the loss of the first is the killer to me. Great spot for corner back help that they need. Yeah only thing that makes sense is scheme fit or something along that line.
eball Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 I wanted Clark but very glad Buffalo didn't make this sort of deal. Might work out for Chefs, might not. Seems they could have kept Ford and saved a lot of hassle.
Albany,n.y. Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 40 minutes ago, WMDman said: Why not just keep Ford? You don't keep a Ford when you can have a Mercedes.
BubbaT Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) Would Seattle become a potential trade partner for the Bills if they have a lust for a major player? Their 2 firsts (total 1440 points) for our #9 (1350), our 4th rounder (70) and 6th rounder (18.6). Leaves the Bills with ammunition to go up still in the first but positions them perfectly for other high value targets in advance of the 2nd round Edited April 23, 2019 by BubbaT
BADOLBILZ Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 40 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Huge return for Seattle. Bills couldn’t give up 9. Late first more palatable for KC. If you are looking to trade for a player like that it serves you well to be at the back of the first round. That's prime territory to steal a superstar like the Eagles did when they fleeced the Bills of Jason Peters. That trade value for Clark *seems* high because of the 2nd rounder but I'd put it commensurate or lesser value to swapping spots with Buffalo in round one. I think this shows the Bills were likely not involved in discussions. 2
No_Matter_What Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Quickly checked their forums. Saying that fans are furious now would be an understatement. 1 1
aceman_16 Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 29 minutes ago, NewEra said: I would’ve kept Ford. Clark May be a better player, but not that much better where you’d give up a 1st rd pick. Crazy And a 2nd
Reed83HOF Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: News flash. Pass rushers get paid. Bills will be in a similar position with Hughes. No ****. I know that. I was talking in terms of draft comp, the contract and where we are at with our roster reconstruction. "Oh hell no" for us, is here I was going. This is also the reason why pass rushers are the next premium position besides QB.... Btw speaking of Hughes: Edited April 23, 2019 by Reed83HOF
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