Buffalo716 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 6:40 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position&position=OL just 6 years ago, Cooper and Womack went top 10 as G’s. but If you had to choose between Jonah and TJ, who do you go with? I just really want a difference maker at TE. Much like receiver, we have a bunch of 2, 3, & 4 guys. We need a 1. Expand Of course there are some guards who don’t pan out... but about 20% of all top 10 guard picks all pro... that is very high rate... compared to 5% at QB if it’s those 2 I think that’s a hard decision. Jonah maybe doesn’t have elite measurables but he is a technician. Should be better than Dawkins day 1 but I would prolly go Hock 1
Reed83HOF Posted April 22, 2019 Author Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 6:40 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position&position=OL just 6 years ago, Cooper and Womack went top 10 as G’s. but If you had to choose between Jonah and TJ, who do you go with? I just really want a difference maker at TE. Much like receiver, we have a bunch of 2, 3, & 4 guys. We need a 1. Expand I have a hard time drafting OL this high, always have always will. That being said, I did like Nelson a lot last year; however that was 1 player out of the last 20+ years I followed the draft. The bust potential in the draft is high and rarely do you see rookie OL ready on day 1 to play anymore. When you are drafting in the top 10-12ish I want to see those players starting, JMO On 4/22/2019 at 6:51 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said: I hope we get him but i think Sternberger and Knox would be pretty good gets. Expand I like Sternberger in the third or even late 2nd. With our first pick I want an impact player at a premium position... 2
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 6:32 PM, JM57 said: Yeah definitely more athletic. It's funny some of the write-ups I've read on Hockenson have a hard time finding real negatives for him on the film, maybe some small stuff to clean up, but they're just like "his athletic numbers aren't great." Now I won't call myself an expert but if you're breaking down film of a guy and all you can find to be down on is that he doesn't test off the charts at the combine then you've got my attention. Give me a player whose film is so good you can't even complain about it LOL Expand Don’t get me wrong at all. I think Hock will be really good. Has a higher floor and will most likely be good at worst. However just how some people feel about Metcalf, I say swing for the fences. If your going with potential, I think Fant has a higher ceiling. Of course I could be wrong. But I’d take Fant, back in the 20s and be glad I traded back multiple times for multiple extra 2nd and 3rd round picks. Giving me room to move back up if needed, or stay where we are. Because I feel this draft class has a lot of really good talent at our positions of most need. I say capitalize on more picks. 1
WotAGuy Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 I think the Bills take Williams if he’s available and then trade back up into the late first to get their D-lineman. TE after that. Signing Yeldon means there is less need to grab a TE earlier. RBs will be Allen’s bread and butter in between bombs.
eball Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 I'd be willing to bet a bunch of dollars that John Murphy doesn't know Jack Schitt about who the Bills might draft. 1
TaskerTough Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 5:29 PM, LABILLBACKER said: The Bills organization has NEVER had a dynamic TE in their history. I think it's time for that to change. Expand
The Bills Blog Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 5:47 PM, mrags said: This. Not to mention he’s just a fat stupid idiot that has no idea what he’s talking about. He was right in the Allen thing. No crap. So we’re a million other idiots that generally don’t have a clue. But it’s not hard to figure out. Expand Fat? Wow. What does his body shape have to do with it? Unacceptable to make comments like this in this day and age. 2
wppete Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 6:44 PM, RiotAct said: even my grandmother? Expand Especially your grandmother!!!!!
dave mcbride Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) On 4/22/2019 at 5:39 PM, Coach Tuesday said: Was Brian Bulaga worth a #9? Expand I'd say no. He's somewhere between average and above average. On 4/22/2019 at 7:01 PM, TaskerTough said: Expand Only a Bills fan could think that Riemersma ever exceeded "average"! Edited April 22, 2019 by dave mcbride 2
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 7:03 PM, The Bills Blog said: Fat? Wow. What does his body shape have to do with it? Unacceptable to make comments like this in this day and age. Expand I don’t care. If you’re offended, get off the internet.
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 7:22 PM, Canadian Bills Fan said: What the #@! does John Murphy know??? Expand Nothing. That’s the point 1
HeHateMe Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 5:37 PM, Logic said: I like Hock a lot, but for what it's worth, Noah Fant had TWICE as many receiving touchdowns over the last two seasons as Hock. Hock -- 9. Fant -- 18 (!). Expand True but in 2018, our most reason sample season, Fant had 1 more TD (7 to 6), 10 less catches, and 241 less yards than Hockenson. I prefer the guy who never has to come off the field. Hock!
The Jokeman Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) On 4/22/2019 at 7:24 PM, HeHateMe said: True but in 2018, our most reason sample season, Fant had 1 more TD (7 to 6), 10 less catches, and 241 less yards than Hockenson. I prefer the guy who never has to come off the field. Hock! Expand Hock is Metzelaars to as Fant is McKeller, I agree Hock the better all around guy to have and if choose between the two it's the first. Edited April 22, 2019 by The Jokeman
Reed83HOF Posted April 22, 2019 Author Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 7:22 PM, Canadian Bills Fan said: What the #@! does John Murphy know??? Expand I thought Canadians were supposed to be polite? 1
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 7:43 PM, Reed83HOF said: I thought Canadians were supposed to be polite? Expand Not when it comes to John Murphy 1 2
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 7:12 PM, dave mcbride said: I'd say no. He's somewhere between average and above average. Only a Bills fan could think that Riemersma ever exceeded "average"! Expand Strongly disagree. I thought Jay was a really borderline good TE for us. Of course, now I just looked up the stats and he was the definition of average. Amazing how you remember things when you’re young. 1
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) Tight end is a fair blocker most of the time and a surprise receiver the rest of the time. That job can be done by committee and you can always substitute to get a mismatch on the play that YOU as the offense are going to call. If you want a better tight end, draft one each hear in the 4th round, OR look for good athletes playing some other position (OT, FB, QB, ruby). Edited April 22, 2019 by maryland-bills-fan
formerlyofCtown Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 5:17 PM, Reed83HOF said: Expand So the Bills agree with me.
Rockinon Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 You can't look at merely receiving production. The reason Hock is rated higher is because he can block too. That is a huge advantage. The D does not know whether he is staying in to block or running a route or a combination of the 2. This opens things up in both the run and the pass game. It also gives the D more to think about. A good all around TE can stay on the field and force defenders to guess what is coming. Not projecting whether a pass or a run is coming is what good offenses do. A good multidimensional TE is one effective way to do just that.
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