Alphadawg7 Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) Below is my Bills Mock V2 and also my overall mock from picks 1-8 to get to our pick. I have us doing a trade, so then mocked it to where I think we will be picking. Im only going to mock our picks to round 4, pretty pointless after that. DISCLOSURE: Mocks are pretty pointless overall, so this is more of a "What would I do" if I was Beane based on what we know about Beane. I do believe this is all feasible and makes sense, but its a hard year to predict anything and even harder to accurately predict trades. So gonna have fun with it. Honestly, this year is one of the hardest in recent memory to mock the top 10. There are no "obvious" choices outside of Murray really. Everyone at every spot after AZ could go multiple directions with no clear cut obvious choice really, mainly because its hard to predict who is on the board still. Normally you have a pretty good feel for the top 5, but not this year. Will be a fun draft IMO for this reason. AZ: Kyler Murray - Until I hear something otherwise, this seems like the only real sure bet right now. SF: Quennin Williams - 4 first round DE's on the roster, including an expensive Dee Ford. DT helps them more and makes more sense than Bosa IMO. NYJ: Nick Bosa - Talk of Oliver love here, but if Bosa gets past SF I think he is the pick. OAK: Josh Allen - They desperately need pass rush and Allen is chosen to do just that. TB: Devin White - Could be Oliver with McCoy trade talk, but they also need to replace Kwon. Until I see McCoy is really on the move, I am going White here. NYG: Ed Oliver - One would think it could be Haskins here, but all the talk is that Gettleman wants D here and Ed Oliver is BPA on DL. JAX: Jawaan Taylor - The only way Foles can succeed is with pass protection. JAX PassPro sucks, so I think they take the local boy to try and build up the line to protect Foles DET: Rashaan Gary - They need to replace Ansah, so they could also go Sweat here. But Gary has more versatility along the line. MIA: TRADE (BUF) - Drew Lock - Miami trades to get ahead of Broncos to get Lock (TRADE: Bills trade #9 to Miami for #13 and #48) DEN: TJ Hockenson - Could also be Devin Bush, but Flacco has always used his TE's and Hockenson is a complete TE who helps block too after some OL losses CIN: Montez Sweat - Popular pick here is a QB and Dwayne Haskins is on the board. But I think they want to see what new regime can do with Andy first and will jump at taking Sweat GB: Devin Bush - LB is a big need, but could also see them go Jonah Williams or Andre Dillard to help keep Aaron healthy BUF: We are on the clock! I just have a feeling someone like Miami is going to try and get in front of some of the teams who may go QB. At 13 now, I can see several guys who are there in this mock and who could be there depending on how the draft fell. On my board, guys like Jonah or Dillard are there along with DT Wilkins and WR DK Metcalf. However, could also see TJ falling to us at 13 or even Montez Sweat slipping to us too. But drafting obviously here on how this mock fell... Buffalo' draft picks through 5 rounds: #13 #40, #48, #74, #112, #131, #147, #158 #13 BUF: DK Metcalf - Beane goes and gets this years freakishly high ceiling athlete (like Allen and Edmunds last year) to be a major weapon for Josh. TRADE ALERT - Bills trade up back into the first with Seattle. Bills get #21 and Seattle gets #40, #74, and #112 - Seattle wants more picks...we trade with them but not for Clark. #21 - BUF: Christian Wilkins (or maybe Simmons) - They get their DT here...now this could also be a place to get a TE like say Noah, but I think DT value will be too big to pass up and a TE can be had next...as you will see... TRADE ALERT - Buffalo trades up again with NYG - Bills get #37 and Giants get #48, #181, and Zay Jones #37 - BUF: Irv Smith - After getting their DT in round 1 trade up, they go after another weapon for Josh in Irv Smith #137 - BUF: Bryce Love - If Singletary is here, he would be the pick over Love I believe. Could also be Henderson...either way I suspect there will be an interesting RB lingering around here. Final tally: Bills get Metcalf, Wilkins, Irv, and Love in rounds 1-4. I would love this draft. I honestly could mock our picks very differently using the same trades and love those outcomes too. Maybe they take Hock at 13, the DT at 21 still, and N'Keal Harry at 37 for example. Or they could even go Wilkins at 13, Fant at 21 and Harry at 37...or Harry at 21 and Irv at 37. They could also go Sweat or Burns at 13 too. Either way, I think our first 3 picks could be WR, DT/EDGE, and TE in some order if our picks were 13, 21 and 37 after these trades. NOTE: I also would not be surprised if after the trade down if we used one of our second rounders to trade for Clowney. Feel free to tear it apart, really isn't going to be any right or wrong opinions, its just a dumb mock lol. Thanks for reading if you got this far, cheers Edited April 20, 2019 by Alphadawg7 4 1
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 Never gonna happen. Bills won’t help Dolphins. Besides that, they won’t take a wide receiver with their first pick. 5 1
Alphadawg7 Posted April 20, 2019 Author Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Never gonna happen. Bills won’t help Dolphins. Besides that, they won’t take a wide receiver with their first pick. I would argue it helps the Bills more than the Dolphins. We are further along. 2
KOKBILLS Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 I really like a ton of this...DK and Wilkins especially...So I don't want to seam nitpicky...? But...? Bryce Love at #137? He may not get Drafted with that knee...And there are SO many RB's I would take over him in that area of the Draft! Most specifically Devine Ozigbo and Justice Hill...I think Love is going to get pushed down in this Draft big time due to the depth at RB... But otherwise...I like it!!!...? 5
Aussie Joe Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) So still with the Zay Jones trade? You will be a certified Board Genius if that still comes off on draft day.. I hate the trade back up to 21 for all that capital.. Edited April 20, 2019 by Aussie Joe 2
Rc2catch Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Never gonna happen. Bills won’t help Dolphins. Besides that, they won’t take a wide receiver with their first pick. Fully agree there’s zero chance the bills would trade to allow a division rival into the top 10 unless the compensation was completely absurd like multiple firsts and seconds. They would never allow Miami into the top 10 especially to grab a quarterback 1
Just Joshin' Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Never gonna happen. Bills won’t help Dolphins. Besides that, they won’t take a wide receiver with their first pick. Agree. When was the last time a draft day trade within the Division to get one team a franchise QB? I suspect never and this will not be the first. 2
CEN-CAL17 Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 I’ll Take #13 Brian Burns and #21 Josh Jacobs with #37 NKeal Harry #137- DT Daylon Mack 1
Augie Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 I was SO excited about Oliver, and I think it was all a bunch of silly draft hooey. I can’t see him getting to 9, or anywhere affordable. I feel like I will be “settling”, which is kind of sad. But then, it will be a few years before we really know who got it right.
mrags Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 I like Wilkins, Fant, and Harry much much more. Or maybe Burns/Ferguson, Fant, Harry, Jones/Simmons/Tillery/Lawrence/Willis. Not saying all those DTs will be there in a trade back up into the 2nd round scenario. If I’m sure 1-2 of the 5 will be. 1
CNY315 Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: Justice Hill I like Hill too ? 3
Alphadawg7 Posted April 20, 2019 Author Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, KOKBILLS said: I really like a ton of this...DK and Wilkins especially...So I don't want to seam nitpicky...? But...? Bryce Love at #137? He may not get Drafted with that knee...And there are SO many RB's I would take over him in that area of the Draft! Most specifically Devine Ozigbo and Justice Hill...I think Love is going to get pushed down in this Draft big time due to the depth at RB... But otherwise...I like it!!!...? Fair points on the RB...yeah I totally agree on the RB situation, lots of intriguing guys could be had there. I live in Cali, so we saw a lot of him here and Love's dominance in 2017 is still fresh a bit in my mind lol. I have a slight partial to him just because we saw so much of him
AustinDan Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 There is no way the Bills are trading within the division with Miami. They are not going to trade Zay Jones either, I believe McD still has faith in him. I also don't think Miami is drafting a QB this year, I believe they are tanking this season to try for the Alabama QB in 2020. If they did want to trade up they would more likely deal with Detroit at #8 and who have publicly stated their willingness to trade back. 1
Alphadawg7 Posted April 20, 2019 Author Posted April 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: So still with the Zay Jones trade? You will be a certified Board Genius if that still comes off on draft day.. I hate the trade back up to 21 for all that capital.. To be honest, I feel like Zay more likely gets traded in preseason. But when I was mocking the trade up (after selecting Metcalf which would seal Zays fate IMO) and saw the Giants pick there, it just started to make sense. They are rebuilding, so get to add a couple more picks as I was going to include our 3rd there. But they could use another WR too, so Zay and the extra pick suddenly looked plausible after we took a WR already (or were trading up to get one like Harry).
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) On 4/19/2019 at 8:29 PM, Alphadawg7 said: Below is my Bills Mock V2 and also my overall mock from picks 1-8 to get to our pick. I have us doing a trade, so then mocked it to where I think we will be picking. Im only going to mock our picks to round 4, pretty pointless after that. DISCLOSURE: Mocks are pretty pointless overall, so this is more of a "What would I do" if I was Beane based on what we know about Beane. I do believe this is all feasible and makes sense, but its a hard year to predict anything and even harder to accurately predict trades. So gonna have fun with it. Honestly, this year is one of the hardest in recent memory to mock the top 10. There are no "obvious" choices outside of Murray really. Everyone at every spot after AZ could go multiple directions with no clear cut obvious choice really, mainly because its hard to predict who is on the board still. Normally you have a pretty good feel for the top 5, but not this year. Will be a fun draft IMO for this reason. AZ: Kyler Murray - Until I hear something otherwise, this seems like the only real sure bet right now. SF: Quennin Williams - 4 first round DE's on the roster, including an expensive Dee Ford. DT helps them more and makes more sense than Bosa IMO. NYJ: Nick Bosa - Talk of Oliver love here, but if Bosa gets past SF I think he is the pick. OAK: Josh Allen - They desperately need pass rush and Allen is chosen to do just that. TB: Devin White - Could be Oliver with McCoy trade talk, but they also need to replace Kwon. Until I see McCoy is really on the move, I am going White here. NYG: Ed Oliver - One would think it could be Haskins here, but all the talk is that Gettleman wants D here and Ed Oliver is BPA on DL. JAX: Jawaan Taylor - The only way Foles can succeed is with pass protection. JAX PassPro sucks, so I think they take the local boy to try and build up the line to protect Foles DET: Rashaan Gary - They need to replace Ansah, so they could also go Sweat here. But Gary has more versatility along the line. MIA: TRADE (BUF) - Drew Lock - Miami trades to get ahead of Broncos to get Lock (TRADE: Bills trade #9 to Miami for #13 and #48) DEN: TJ Hockenson - Could also be Devin Bush, but Flacco has always used his TE's and Hockenson is a complete TE who helps block too after some OL losses CIN: Montez Sweat - Popular pick here is a QB and Dwayne Haskins is on the board. But I think they want to see what new regime can do with Andy first and will jump at taking Sweat GB: Devin Bush - LB is a big need, but could also see them go Jonah Williams or Andre Dillard to help keep Aaron healthy BUF: We are on the clock! I just have a feeling someone like Miami is going to try and get in front of some of the teams who may go QB. At 13 now, I can see several guys who are there in this mock and who could be there depending on how the draft fell. On my board, guys like Jonah or Dillard are there along with DT Wilkins and WR DK Metcalf. However, could also see TJ falling to us at 13 or even Montez Sweat slipping to us too. But drafting obviously here on how this mock fell... Buffalo' draft picks through 5 rounds: #13 #40, #48, #74, #112, #131, #147, #158 #13 BUF: DK Metcalf - Beane goes and gets this years freakishly high ceiling athlete (like Allen and Edmunds last year) to be a major weapon for Josh. TRADE ALERT - Bills trade up back into the first with Seattle. Bills get #21 and Seattle gets #40, #74, and #112 - Seattle wants more picks...we trade with them but not for Clark. #21 - BUF: Christian Wilkins (or maybe Simmons) - They get their DT here...now this could also be a place to get a TE like say Noah, but I think DT value will be too big to pass up and a TE can be had next...as you will see... TRADE ALERT - Buffalo trades up again with NYG - Bills get #37 and Giants get #48, #181, and Zay Jones #37 - BUF: Irv Smith - After getting their DT in round 1 trade up, they go after another weapon for Josh in Irv Smith #137 - BUF: Bryce Love - If Singletary is here, he would be the pick over Love I believe. Could also be Henderson...either way I suspect there will be an interesting RB lingering around here. Final tally: Bills get Metcalf, Wilkins, Irv, and Love in rounds 1-4. I would love this draft. I honestly could mock our picks very differently using the same trades and love those outcomes too. Maybe they take Hock at 13, the DT at 21 still, and N'Keal Harry at 37 for example. Or they could even go Wilkins at 13, Fant at 21 and Harry at 37...or Harry at 21 and Irv at 37. They could also go Sweat or Burns at 13 too. Either way, I think our first 3 picks could be WR, DT/EDGE, and TE in some order if our picks were 13, 21 and 37 after these trades. NOTE: I also would not be surprised if after the trade down if we used one of our second rounders to trade for Clowney. Feel free to tear it apart, really isn't going to be any right or wrong opinions, its just a dumb mock lol. Thanks for reading if you got this far, cheers If you drop to #13 with Sweat, Hockenson and Bush on the board and then draft a WR I'lll be a little more than pissed Edited April 23, 2019 by MOVALLEYRANDY 1
MJS Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 Wow. That's definitely thinking outside the box. Lot's of trades.
Alphadawg7 Posted April 20, 2019 Author Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said: I few drop to #13 with Sweat, Hockenson and Bush on the board and then draft a WR I'lll be a little more than pissed Fair enough...but they could land one of them at 13 still (even though I mocked all 3 to go 10, 11, and 12). If Sweat or Hockenson lasted to 13 I think they would take them over Metcalf. 1
Solomon Grundy Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Below is my Bills Mock V2 and also my overall mock from picks 1-8 to get to our pick. I have us doing a trade, so then mocked it to where I think we will be picking. Im only going to mock our picks to round 4, pretty pointless after that. DISCLOSURE: Mocks are pretty pointless overall, so this is more of a "What would I do" if I was Beane based on what we know about Beane. I do believe this is all feasible and makes sense, but its a hard year to predict anything and even harder to accurately predict trades. So gonna have fun with it. Honestly, this year is one of the hardest in recent memory to mock the top 10. There are no "obvious" choices outside of Murray really. Everyone at every spot after AZ could go multiple directions with no clear cut obvious choice really, mainly because its hard to predict who is on the board still. Normally you have a pretty good feel for the top 5, but not this year. Will be a fun draft IMO for this reason. AZ: Kyler Murray - Until I hear something otherwise, this seems like the only real sure bet right now. SF: Quennin Williams - 4 first round DE's on the roster, including an expensive Dee Ford. DT helps them more and makes more sense than Bosa IMO. NYJ: Nick Bosa - Talk of Oliver love here, but if Bosa gets past SF I think he is the pick. OAK: Josh Allen - They desperately need pass rush and Allen is chosen to do just that. TB: Devin White - Could be Oliver with McCoy trade talk, but they also need to replace Kwon. Until I see McCoy is really on the move, I am going White here. NYG: Ed Oliver - One would think it could be Haskins here, but all the talk is that Gettleman wants D here and Ed Oliver is BPA on DL. JAX: Jawaan Taylor - The only way Foles can succeed is with pass protection. JAX PassPro sucks, so I think they take the local boy to try and build up the line to protect Foles DET: Rashaan Gary - They need to replace Ansah, so they could also go Sweat here. But Gary has more versatility along the line. MIA: TRADE (BUF) - Drew Lock - Miami trades to get ahead of Broncos to get Lock (TRADE: Bills trade #9 to Miami for #13 and #48) DEN: TJ Hockenson - Could also be Devin Bush, but Flacco has always used his TE's and Hockenson is a complete TE who helps block too after some OL losses CIN: Montez Sweat - Popular pick here is a QB and Dwayne Haskins is on the board. But I think they want to see what new regime can do with Andy first and will jump at taking Sweat GB: Devin Bush - LB is a big need, but could also see them go Jonah Williams or Andre Dillard to help keep Aaron healthy BUF: We are on the clock! I just have a feeling someone like Miami is going to try and get in front of some of the teams who may go QB. At 13 now, I can see several guys who are there in this mock and who could be there depending on how the draft fell. On my board, guys like Jonah or Dillard are there along with DT Wilkins and WR DK Metcalf. However, could also see TJ falling to us at 13 or even Montez Sweat slipping to us too. But drafting obviously here on how this mock fell... Buffalo' draft picks through 5 rounds: #13 #40, #48, #74, #112, #131, #147, #158 #13 BUF: DK Metcalf - Beane goes and gets this years freakishly high ceiling athlete (like Allen and Edmunds last year) to be a major weapon for Josh. TRADE ALERT - Bills trade up back into the first with Seattle. Bills get #21 and Seattle gets #40, #74, and #112 - Seattle wants more picks...we trade with them but not for Clark. #21 - BUF: Christian Wilkins (or maybe Simmons) - They get their DT here...now this could also be a place to get a TE like say Noah, but I think DT value will be too big to pass up and a TE can be had next...as you will see... TRADE ALERT - Buffalo trades up again with NYG - Bills get #37 and Giants get #48, #181, and Zay Jones #37 - BUF: Irv Smith - After getting their DT in round 1 trade up, they go after another weapon for Josh in Irv Smith #137 - BUF: Bryce Love - If Singletary is here, he would be the pick over Love I believe. Could also be Henderson...either way I suspect there will be an interesting RB lingering around here. Final tally: Bills get Metcalf, Wilkins, Irv, and Love in rounds 1-4. I would love this draft. I honestly could mock our picks very differently using the same trades and love those outcomes too. Maybe they take Hock at 13, the DT at 21 still, and N'Keal Harry at 37 for example. Or they could even go Wilkins at 13, Fant at 21 and Harry at 37...or Harry at 21 and Irv at 37. They could also go Sweat or Burns at 13 too. Either way, I think our first 3 picks could be WR, DT/EDGE, and TE in some order if our picks were 13, 21 and 37 after these trades. NOTE: I also would not be surprised if after the trade down if we used one of our second rounders to trade for Clowney. Feel free to tear it apart, really isn't going to be any right or wrong opinions, its just a dumb mock lol. Thanks for reading if you got this far, cheers I like Alpha!! I just don't see them trading back up for Irv Smith. I can see them trading Zay Jones though. I think they will use pick #48 on Miles Sanders(Pegula's pick). I think they covet Trevon Wesco and will ***** late with #137. Wesco was All Big 12 1st team. He's 6'3" 267 and ran 4.89 40. He's a great blocker in the run and pass game. Good receiver with run after catch ability. He's my sleeper pick in the draft. So I'm looking at Metcalf, Wilkins, Sanders and Wesco. With the Zay trade they get Zach Allen, EDGE, from BC Edited April 20, 2019 by the skycap 1
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