KD in CA Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 7 hours ago, row_33 said: They had no other choice 64,000,000 voted as yellow dog Dems This is mostly true....you didn't see anyone fired up about her. People were fired up about Slick Willy. Obama. Bernie. Hitlery? No, not even a little. Other than the standard yellow dog block she got a small group who was horrified by Trump. That's it. That's "What Happened". Likewise, no one is fired up by Pocohantes. Bernie? Yes. Mayor Pete? Probably. Cammie? Doubtful. But not Pocohantes. She's an amateur, whinier version of Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, KD in CA said: This is mostly true....you didn't see anyone fired up about her. People were fired up about Slick Willy. Obama. Bernie. Hitlery? No, not even a little. Other than the standard yellow dog block she got a small group who was horrified by Trump. That's it. That's "What Happened". Likewise, no one is fired up by Pocohantes. Bernie? Yes. Mayor Pete? Probably. Cammie? Doubtful. But not Pocohantes. She's an amateur, whinier version of Hillary. Slick and Obama were perfect for the type of national figure the Dems hope for, they were the only two since JFK... that's a lot years in between.... I knew that Slick and Obama were dangerous the first time i saw them on TV.... I thought "shoot, they have someone now" It's only been 2 times since I started watching your politics in 1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 16 hours ago, row_33 said: in an accounting firm life, I have known a dozen Hillary's and a dozen Trump models, I would elect the Trump to be a President or managing partner (local and regional) every time and the HIllary to be a due diligence partner or head up the accounts receivable department Very well said. And pretty much the same can be said for the latest crop of democratic hopefuls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Very well said. And pretty much the same can be said for the latest crop of democratic hopefuls. they make McGovern and Dukakis look like Imperial American Presidential Timber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I don't think an impeachment would remove the president because of the enablers in the Senate. So, should the Dems move toward impeaching in the House? It may not be best for the Democratic party but I would vote 'yes' as I think it is necessary for the country moving forward. Why? Because otherwise Trump will claim, like he has done with his taxes and his affairs, that the American people now know everything that he has done and that they are just fine with it all. He will continue to try to interfere in investigations of himself, his family, and his businesses and will continue to appoint political stooges to protect himself. Going forward Trump will claim that Mueller says that this type of interference is not an issue. I imagine here, most are just fine with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: I don't think an impeachment would remove the president because of the enablers in the Senate. So, should the Dems move toward impeaching in the House? It may not be best for the Democratic party but I would vote 'yes' as I think it is necessary for the country moving forward. Why? Because otherwise Trump will claim, like he has done with his taxes and his affairs, that the American people now know everything that he has done and that they are just fine with it all. He will continue to try to interfere in investigations of himself, his family, and his businesses and will continue to appoint political stooges to protect himself. Going forward Trump will claim that Mueller says that this type of interference is not an issue. I imagine here, most are just fine with that It stunning to me that anyone thinks trying to impeach Trump is a good idea, let alone doing it based on the concept that even though he was fully cleared of collusion, it's a good idea anyway because we don't want people to think he didn't do something. Trying to impeach Trump heading into the 2020 elections would be the dumbest thing the left could do since thinking Hillary was a good candidate. It's such a bad idea, I'd actually donate money to the cause. But that would mean taking away from my donations to AOC's re-election. Choices. Choices. Edited April 22, 2019 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Politics has addled her mind. She was once somewhat reasonable. Another year and she'll be institutionalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: It stunning to me that anyone thinks trying to impeach Trump is a good idea, let alone doing it based on the concept that even though he was fully cleared of collusion, it's a good idea anyway because we don't want people to think he didn't do something. Trying to impeach Trump heading into the 2020 elections would be the dumbest thing the left could do since thinking Hillary was a good candidate. It's such a bad idea, I'd actually donate money to the cause. But that would mean taking away from my donations to AOC's re-election. Choices. Choices. Well, you may be right that it is a bad idea for the Dems. Then again, the Dems taking advice from you may not be the best idea either. Without any further sanction, what will prevent Trump from claiming that his actions were just fine with the American people? We have seen this before. If he feels cleared, do you really think he will stop interfering with the remaining investigations? He is still shouting 'No obstruction', essentially claiming he did nothing improper. Edited April 22, 2019 by Bob in Mich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 She also is now pushing to pay for $50,000 worth of debt for each college student that is estimated to cost over $1.2 Trillion over the next 10 years. She backs the green deal. She is proposing Universal pre school care. She backs Medicare-for-all. You couldn't confiscate the wealth from the rich and still pay for these proposals. Ever since her Pocahontas gaffe she's been struggling and has been unable to get any traction in the polls. Now she's swinging for the fences, it comes off as pretty desperate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 19 hours ago, row_33 said: in an accounting firm life, I have known a dozen Hillary's and a dozen Trump models, I would elect the Trump to be a President or managing partner (local and regional) every time and the HIllary to be a due diligence partner or head up the accounts receivable department You've got to be kidding, Hillary in accounts receivable? "One for you, and 10 for me.... One for you, 10 for me" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Well, you may be right that it is a bad idea for the Dems. Then again, the Dems taking advice from you may not be the best idea either. Without any further sanction, what will prevent Trump from claiming that his actions were just fine with the American people? We have seen this before. If he feels cleared, do you really think he will stop interfering with the remaining investigations? He is still shouting 'No obstruction', essentially claiming he did nothing improper. My advice for the Dems is simple: stick to their current message, which is: Impeach Trump New Green Deal Open Borders Socialism Reparations Follow my advice to 2020 success. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: My advice for the Dems is simple: stick to their current message, which is: Impeach Trump New Green Deal Open Borders Socialism Reparations Follow my advice to 2020 success. You forgot backing infanticide, 16 year old voting, and doing away with the electoral college. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: My advice for the Dems is simple: stick to their current message, which is: Impeach Trump New Green Deal Open Borders Socialism Reparations Follow my advice to 2020 success. Funny. But the real question is, who will check Trump going forward if all of his previous obstructive behavior is deemed OK ? Do you think that without further sanction, he will change his ways and stop interfering? Are you OK with future actions that are similar to the 11 incidents described in the Meuller report? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Gavin in Va Beach said: She was once somewhat reasonable. When was that, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Funny. But the real question is, who will check Trump going forward if all of his previous obstructive behavior is deemed OK ? Do you think that without further sanction, he will change his ways and stop interfering? Are you OK with future actions that are similar to the 11 incidents described in the Meuller report? It's HILARIOUS you've moved from "he's a traitor" to "obstructive behavior". Sad to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Funny. But the real question is, who will check Trump going forward if all of his previous obstructive behavior is deemed OK ? Do you think that without further sanction, he will change his ways and stop interfering? Are you OK with future actions that are similar to the 11 incidents described in the Meuller report? I could have come up with those 11 laughable (maybe I'll try this, or that) conjectures in an afternoon and charged a lot less than 35 million dollars. My God, man they even tried to say that Trump might be obstructing justice by denying any wrongdoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I could have come up with those 11 laughable (maybe I'll try this, or that) conjectures in an afternoon and charged a lot less than 35 million dollars. My God, man they even tried to say that Trump might be obstructing justice by denying any wrongdoing. I'd add to that and say not only could you have done it faster and for far less than 35 million, you'd also provide better sourced conjectures than what they came up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: I'd add to that and say not only could you have done it faster and for far less than 35 million, you'd also provide better sourced conjectures than what they came up with. I thought that went without saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I could have come up with those 11 laughable (maybe I'll try this, or that) conjectures in an afternoon and charged a lot less than 35 million dollars. My God, man they even tried to say that Trump might be obstructing justice by denying any wrongdoing. Considering at least a third of them are "tried but failed," I can probably come up with a lot more. Hell, considering that one of them was "Trump protesting his innocence," there's arguably hundreds more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Funny. But the real question is, who will check Trump going forward if all of his previous obstructive behavior is deemed OK ? Do you think that without further sanction, he will change his ways and stop interfering? Are you OK with future actions that are similar to the 11 incidents described in the Meuller report? First of all, it's not funny. It's literally what the Dem 2020 candidates talk about. And yes, @Joe Miner is correct; I totally forgot about late term abortions. Second, do you honestly and genuinely believe going after Trump is going to force him and others to behave better? It's so far out of our reach it's not even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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