Augie Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 I wish Rex could be a special consultant to the first 8 teams. Even if the Bills have to pay the tab.
BigDingus Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 10 hours ago, McBean said: If Oliver and Hockensen are both there at 9, I’m taking Hock all day. Give me a good TE, something we haven’t had in decades, over a DT. I want points, because a lot of points wins games. Right on! I'd honestly be happy with almost any position on offense over any defensive pick at this point. Having a stud TE could change the entire dynamic of this offense, and be the biggest help to Allen's development. Aside from having Brady, the Pats have shown just how much a great TE can dominate the game. But even if we were to grab an O-linemen or WR, I'd still take improving the #30th ranked offense over trying to bolster the #2 ranked defense any day. Especially when this year could make or break Allen, and after what we've invested in him already, we NEED him to succeed. This team and this regime's future depends on Allen not being a flop, so they should be doing everything possible to help him specifically.
Rampage Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Right on! I'd honestly be happy with almost any position on offense over any defensive pick at this point. Having a stud TE could change the entire dynamic of this offense, and be the biggest help to Allen's development. Aside from having Brady, the Pats have shown just how much a great TE can dominate the game. But even if we were to grab an O-linemen or WR, I'd still take improving the #30th ranked offense over trying to bolster the #2 ranked defense any day. Especially when this year could make or break Allen, and after what we've invested in him already, we NEED him to succeed. This team and this regime's future depends on Allen not being a flop, so they should be doing everything possible to help him specifically. There's no WR worth taking in the Top 10 to ever justify that selection. If Metcalf had production in college, could run the whole route tree and didn't have drop issues you could make an argument there, but he's red flag city right now so you can't. The risk is too great with the abundance of pass rushers that will be on the board. If you're going to take a pass catcher you take one of the two TE's from Iowa. Offensive line is deep, so taking either Taylor or Dillard at Nine wouldn't be a problem either.
Fred Slacks Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Right on! I'd honestly be happy with almost any position on offense over any defensive pick at this point. Having a stud TE could change the entire dynamic of this offense, and be the biggest help to Allen's development. Aside from having Brady, the Pats have shown just how much a great TE can dominate the game. But even if we were to grab an O-linemen or WR, I'd still take improving the #30th ranked offense over trying to bolster the #2 ranked defense any day. Especially when this year could make or break Allen, and after what we've invested in him already, we NEED him to succeed. This team and this regime's future depends on Allen not being a flop, so they should be doing everything possible to help him specifically. One could argue that having an absolute dominant defense allows Josh a Allen more room to grow. Then he doesn’t have to stress about taking chances and learns to play without fear. Knowing that his next level defense is able to go and get him the ball back.
Chandler#81 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 7:00 PM, billsredneck1 said: shaq , no. 9 and a 4th to oakland for pick no. 4 . we get q. williams? That’s pretty redneck of you! oh! Nevermind..
Billzgobowlin Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 I don't buy this at all. They don't know if he is going to last and conventional wisdom says have your top 9 guys in order and one of them will fall into your lap. I could understand locking in on a player if you were top 3 but we are too far down.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 10 hours ago, Augie said: I wish Rex could be a special consultant to the first 8 teams. Even if the Bills have to pay the tab. ...I believe they STILL are, right??...............
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 9:29 PM, BigDingus said: Yes, please help bolster our weak defense! I mean, we have a whopping ONE WHOLE TEAM ahead of us in overall defensive ranking, that's embarrassing! Thankfully our offense is set, especially with our FA signings. And with only a measly 29 teams ranked ahead of us, there's hardly room for improvement. Josh Allen already silenced all his critics, so there's really nothing left our offense needs to do but deliver us the Lombardi trophy & seal the deal. And with Ed Oliver anchoring the defense, the offense can rest comfortably knowing their efforts won't be in vein anymore. Have you noticed the FA signings?
PrimeTime101 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 Ed Oliver has been on different mocks for the last couple months now. its not like this is a new concept.
billsredneck1 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 like someone else mentioned, i think the bucs spot is where we'd have to be to insure we get oliver. then again, dt is a need for them also,(maybe not the biggest), but if they let mc coy walk then it's a different story. i've said this a lot before but shaq lawson could be a trade asset that allows a move like this without giving up high picks this year. so, if we sent shaq, a later rd. pick this year and mid rounder next, i'd pull the trigger. we can get an edge in this draft somewhere (preferably in the 2nd or 3rd, or in a move up). i don't see any reason to keep and pay shaq as a 2 down edge setter. murphy should be healthy and looking to make a come back and we can always slide lorax up to the line..... plus hopefully have picked a good prospect to be the future there.
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 21 hours ago, McBean said: If Oliver and Hockensen are both there at 9, I’m taking Hock all day. Give me a good TE, something we haven’t had in decades, over a DT. I want points, because a lot of points wins games. Remember last year Galko saying the Bills were “in love” with Josh Rosen? These dudes don’t know crap. We know more than they do. It is not true that "all lot of points wins games". Scoring more points than the other team is how you win games. 1
aristocrat Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 I’m thinking bills take Greedy Williams and we go with best secondary in league
Rampage Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: It is not true that "all lot of points wins games". Scoring more points than the other team is how you win games. Exactly, and the better your defense is, the easier it is for you.
Captain Murica Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 12:43 PM, YoloinOhio said: Interesting... I think there are definitely more than 8 non-QB players in this draft worthy of the 9th pick and would not trade down. You hope this is the last time they pick in the top 10 for awhile and you already have 10 picks and not a lot of roster spots. Unless it’s to trade down for a current player like Clark or Clowney, just stay at 9 and pick the best guy on the board. Imo This is the only scenario I’d trade down for, and take Noah Fant with that pick. But, I really hope we stay at 9 or trade up to secure Oliver. 1
Augie Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 4 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I believe they STILL are, right??............... Yes, but I’d le Pegs pay extra for this leak service. Hey! It’s not MY money! 1
MrEpsYtown Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: I’m thinking bills take Greedy Williams and we go with best secondary in league I think, if they do go corner it's going to be Byron Murphy. Perfect zone guy for the scheme. 1
Kirby Jackson Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Let the propaganda begin!! Let’s get Oliver to slip to 9. Start digging through Twitter!! 4
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Let the propaganda begin!! Let’s get Oliver to slip to 9. Start digging through Twitter!! Wasn't it shown that Gil Brandt wasn't even at Houston's Pro Day?
Reed83HOF Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Let the propaganda begin!! Let’s get Oliver to slip to 9. Start digging through Twitter!! I am 100% certain this is our guy - it's about finding a trade partner that is palatable. TB, NYG are my targets
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