Andrew Son Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Not answering for Bandit but my two cents - yes, 3 tech but he can be moved around That's how I would see it. Not impressed with his tape at end. I would trust them if they made the pick, but it's a complete projection.
thebandit27 Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, SWATeam said: To play 3T? 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Not answering for Bandit but my two cents - yes, 3 tech but he can be moved around I think he would play in a lot of different places.
GunnerBill Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: I think there's a real chance that the Bills take Rashan Gary I do too if he is on the board. 1
Bangarang Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: I think there's a real chance that the Bills take Rashan Gary Thats scary and not in a good way 2
BigBuff423 Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 12:26 PM, thebandit27 said: He better catch 70+ passes for 1,000+ yards if they pick him in the top 10 I agree. I am NOT a fan of taking a TE until 3rd or 4th Round based on how long they develop and how history has demonstrated their contributions. If you're anyone in the 1st round, they need to be a first year significant contributor in some measurable capacity. Only one TE in the last 20 years has shown to be worth the 1st round status: Tony Gonzalez. Gronk was a 2nd rounder and he's shown he's worth it, but that's where it stops for me. I'd rather take a OT / DL in top 10 this year or trade back for a LB and pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick. I also one who thinks while the Bills did really well in FA with Offense, they have real holes on Defense and need good depth, which is where the strengths lie in this Draft, again IMO. To that end, I'd like the majority of the 1st through 4th round picks to be on Defense with a WR / RB thrown in the mix.
JaCrispy Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Thats scary and not in a good way Scary Gary...? Edited April 18, 2019 by JaCrispy
Rocket94 Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 Yes you guys. I truly believe that Edmunds would flourish on the outside. White would be in the middle and sideline to sideline. If White is there, I would not pass him up. In late round one or round two, several DT's should be available. Then we have the potential Frank Clark acquisition. I will believe that when I see it. How well does Daniel Jeremiah know the Bills? We need impact defensive players. We are not scaring or stopping anyone. The verdict is out... Murphy, Lorax and Lawson are not good enough...
GunnerBill Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: Yes you guys. I truly believe that Edmunds would flourish on the outside. White would be in the middle and sideline to sideline. If White is there, I would not pass him up. In late round one or round two, several DT's should be available. Then we have the potential Frank Clark acquisition. I will believe that when I see it. How well does Daniel Jeremiah know the Bills? We need impact defensive players. We are not scaring or stopping anyone. The verdict is out... Murphy, Lorax and Lawson are not good enough... Someone found the font size button. 1
Rocket94 Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) The fonts were an accident! I am not looking for attention. However, the Bills defensive front needs attention...otherwise, get ready for some long Sunday afternoons. Edited April 18, 2019 by Rocket94
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nihilarian said: I tend to disagree with the bolded. When you have a really good receiving TE, he helps out the younger QBs immensely in that when the OC puts the TE in certain formations the defense has to reveal itself. To man or zone coverage and if the safety is here or there it will tell the QB which kind of man or which kind of zone so now the QB knows the defensive coverage before the ball is snapped. A good TE that can win outside as a receiver has become a very valuable chess piece in the better offenses as you can move him around the formation to get the look you want. Then if the Bills go two tight ends that can give a run look to the offense because this makes the defense gear up to stop the run. That receiving TE slips a block and he is open. If I'm not mistaken Bills OC Brian Daboll was the Patriots TE coach for a number of years and he should be pounding the table for TJ Hockenson as this kid doesn't need much development and should make an instant impact and be an instant starter. TJ might be getting a lot of hype from the media...because he deserves it The positional value hasn't been great in Buffalo over the years because they haven't had top NFL offensive coordinators who would even know how build a top passing scheme or to utilize a top tight end. The list of bums and nobody's in that offensive coordinator position in Buffalo has been astoundingly bad going back to after 2003 with Kevin Gilbride. Greg Roman, Anthony Lynn aside but those gentlemen were more suited to building a power run game. I just mean on the totem pole positional value goes like this QB MLB DE CB LT C DT WR TE/S G/RB 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: I think there's a real chance that the Bills take Rashan Gary I think so too if he's there. A high ceiling, still raw player who breaks every measurable Edited April 18, 2019 by FeelingOnYouboty
Rocket94 Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 We do not need a tight end right now with our first pick. Let us rebuild our defense first to stop people, and let Josh develop some more this year. Next year we will be better suited to engage in shoot outs. All of this talk about Hock and Metcalf...I think it is a wonderful dream like scenario...just not realistic. Who is going to stop teams from marching down the field? This current DL is horrid.
JM57 Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: We do not need a tight end right now with our first pick. Let us rebuild our defense first to stop people, and let Josh develop some more this year. Next year we will be better suited to engage in shoot outs. All of this talk about Hock and Metcalf...I think it is a wonderful dream like scenario...just not realistic. Who is going to stop teams from marching down the field? This current DL is horrid. The amount of Bills fans obsessed with defense in 2019 is too damn high. They haven't had a good offense since the one year with Bledsoe and have cycled through good to great defenses multiple times since then, with what to show for it? Fix the offense. This is an offensive happy league with rules benefitting them. Then you don't have to worry about always holding the opponent to 13 points. Edited April 18, 2019 by JM57
Bangarang Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: I think so too if he's there. A high ceiling, still raw player who breaks every measurable 3 years in a major football program, a lack of production, and still very raw? That’s a big red flag for me.
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 Rashan Gary or T.J. Hockenson I'm guessing 90% of the board would be fine with Hockenson at #9 then
Rocket94 Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 I would take a strong defense first. This current unit is not working...obvious and empirically proven.
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 Just now, Bangarang said: 3 years in a major football program, a lack of production, and still very raw? That’s a big red flag for me. I think our coaching staff would look at him be and like, 'WE CAN WORK WITH THIS!"
GunnerBill Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 Just now, Rocket94 said: I would take a strong defense first. This current unit is not working...obvious and empirically proven. By their ranking of 2nd in total defense in 2018. Empirical.
Rocket94 Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 Misleading statistic and you know it. So, you are content with Murphy, Lawson and Lorax? A rotation of marginal DT's?
thebandit27 Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: I just mean on the totem pole positional value goes like this QB MLB DE CB LT C DT WR TE/S G/RB Wow...MLB that high? I don't share that opinion. I actually think that falls rather low on the list. I mean, in recent years, the Bills have gotten solid MLB play from mid-round picks like Preston Brown, street FAs like Zach Brown, and former UDFAs like Julian Stanford (who, IMO, looked every bit as good as Edmunds in spot duty last year). I'd say it looks more like this: QB Pass rusher CB WR LT C Everything else that's not STs STs
dlonce Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) On 4/16/2019 at 6:51 PM, JM57 said: Why does it have to be one or the other? There are very few guys that are above average or better at all aspects of playing TE. Gronk was a REALLY good blocker. Did that stop him from catching passes? Kittle and Kelce both graded out very favorably in the blocking department in 2018. They both had over 1300 yards receiving. If you think that's the ceiling for Hockenson, then you have a rare talent and you take him. Even in the top 10. I don't know how anyone could have watched Gronk dump all over this team every time they played and NOT realize the value of an elite TE Gronk and Brady fit like a hand and glove. Brady used his TEs,made Aaron Hernandez look like a gold jacket candidate. Hindsight... If you draft a TE this high up you better pray he’s an All Pro in your system. This reeks of Eric Ebron and how the former board jumped all over him as our pick. Deja Vu. Im positive he’s not going 9 to the Bills,neither is Metcalf. Thank god,it would be a wasted pick. Pegulas future Son In Law will be croomed to be the starter. Too many high end DTs there and we need to replace Williams with potential quality. Edited April 18, 2019 by dlonce
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