/dev/null Posted April 26, 2019 Posted April 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: If things start pointing in the direction of Obama, how long until the Narrative shifts to Biden's involvement because Biden saw the dangers of #orangemanbad? If that Narrative sticks it helps his Presidential campaign. If that Narrative fails, a scapegoat will have been sacrificed for the greater glory of the Obama legacy 1
row_33 Posted May 2, 2019 Posted May 2, 2019 Put all the Dems on the same chain gang so we can drive by and wave to them 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 And we are pickin' up speed. This is getting interesting. ? Ukrainian embassy confirms DNC contractor solicited Trump dirt in 2016 The boomerang from the Democratic Party’s failed attempt to connect Donald Trump to Russia’s 2016 election meddling is picking up speed, and its flight path crosses right through Moscow’s pesky neighbor, Ukraine. That is where there is growing evidence a foreign power was asked, and in some cases tried, to help Hillary Clinton. In its most detailed account yet, Ukraine’s embassy in Washington says a Democratic National Committee insider during the 2016 election solicited dirt on Donald Trump’s campaign chairman and even tried to enlist the country's president to help. In written answers to questions, Ambassador Valeriy Chaly's office says DNC contractor Alexandra Chalupa sought information from the Ukrainian government on Paul Manafort’s dealings inside the country, in hopes of forcing the issue before Congress. </snip> 2
DC Tom Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446 I was going to select a choice quote, but you have to read the whole thing. The summary is that "The Democrats colluded with the Ukraine to undermine Trump." 1
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2019 Author Posted May 3, 2019 46 minutes ago, DC Tom said: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446 I was going to select a choice quote, but you have to read the whole thing. The summary is that "The Democrats colluded with the Ukraine to undermine Trump."
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 5, 2019 Posted May 5, 2019 The fact that this article was anywhere near Vanity Fair is telling. No, it is not all anti-Biden, however, it is being reported as a story. In Vanity Fair! HUNTER BIDEN’S WORK IN UKRAINE EMERGES AS A POTENTIAL 2020 SCANDAL </snip> New reporting raises the question: were Hunter and Joe Biden’s overlapping interests in Ukraine coincidental, or corrupt? Or is Rudy Giuliani just pulling the media’s strings? n a move sure to trigger 2016 P.T.S.D., The New York Times has published a nearly 3,000-word tale of intrigue involving the Biden family’s various entanglements in Ukraine. In short, the story is this: in the final year of the Obama presidency, Vice President Joe Biden “threatened to withhold $1 billion in United States loan guarantees if Ukraine’s leaders did not dismiss the country’s top prosecutor”—Viktor Shokin—“who had been accused of turning a blind eye to corruption in his own office and among the political elite.” The pressure campaign also just so happened to benefit Biden’s younger son, Hunter, who was then getting paid as much as $50,000 to sit on the board of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company that was in Shokin’s sights. The question the Times raises, but does not answer, is: were Joe’s and Hunter’s overlapping interests in Ukraine coincidental, or corrupt? </snip> 4
snafu Posted May 5, 2019 Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: The fact that this article was anywhere near Vanity Fair is telling. No, it is not all anti-Biden, however, it is being reported as a story. In Vanity Fair! HUNTER BIDEN’S WORK IN UKRAINE EMERGES AS A POTENTIAL 2020 SCANDAL </snip> New reporting raises the question: were Hunter and Joe Biden’s overlapping interests in Ukraine coincidental, or corrupt? Or is Rudy Giuliani just pulling the media’s strings? n a move sure to trigger 2016 P.T.S.D., The New York Times has published a nearly 3,000-word tale of intrigue involving the Biden family’s various entanglements in Ukraine. In short, the story is this: in the final year of the Obama presidency, Vice President Joe Biden “threatened to withhold $1 billion in United States loan guarantees if Ukraine’s leaders did not dismiss the country’s top prosecutor”—Viktor Shokin—“who had been accused of turning a blind eye to corruption in his own office and among the political elite.” The pressure campaign also just so happened to benefit Biden’s younger son, Hunter, who was then getting paid as much as $50,000 to sit on the board of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company that was in Shokin’s sights. The question the Times raises, but does not answer, is: were Joe’s and Hunter’s overlapping interests in Ukraine coincidental, or corrupt? </snip> Better yet, Vanity Fair quoting NYT. The only question is whether they don’t want Biden running because he’s too centrist, or because he’s going to blow it against Trump. It can’t be because they want to get this story out of the way early, in ofder to move past it. 2
Foxx Posted May 5, 2019 Posted May 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, snafu said: Better yet, Vanity Fair quoting NYT. The only question is whether they don’t want Biden running because he’s too centrist, or because he’s going to blow it against Trump. It can’t be because they want to get this story out of the way early, in ofder to move past it. i say we start a new tag, #creepymanbad 2
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 Why she was still there is beyond me. This is several months early. UNIAN: US Ambassador to Ukraine Yovanovitch to be recalled – media </snip> It is alleged that on Saturday, May 11, the ambassador is to return to Ukraine only to step down officially on May 20, of which the embassy staff were informed today, May 6. </snip> As UNIAN reported earlier, Prosecutor General of Ukraine Yuriy Lutsenko, in an interview with Hill.TV, said that, after Yovanovitch was appointed to the post, she allegedly gave him a so-called do-not-prosecute list. </snip> 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 Since President Trump knows all, this is ummm interesting: Trump: Discussing Biden probe with Barr would be 'appropriate'Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, is urging Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden, raising questions about whether Donald Trump would pressure his attorney general to do the same. President Donald Trump told POLITICO on Friday that it would be “appropriate” for him to speak to Attorney General Bill Barr about launching an investigation into his potential 2020 rival, Joe Biden, or his son, Hunter. </snip> 2
Koko78 Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Wow, these "lawfare" people aren't terribly bright, are they? 1 1
Deranged Rhino Posted May 11, 2019 Author Posted May 11, 2019 Lots here -- including plenty of Rudy saying Rudy things -- but starting at the three minute mark is worth the watch. Rudy is part of the team, this whole stunt was designed to highlight this issue for what's coming down the pike. It's a really brilliant play if you think it through. 4
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 On 4/25/2019 at 12:03 PM, Buffalo_Gal said: Link to article </snip>“We never once discussed it when he was there,” the former vice president said of his son. “There’s not a single bit of evidence that’s been shown in any reporting that’s been done that he ever talked about it with me or asked any government official for a favor. ... I have great confidence in my son. He’s a man of great integrity.” </snip> 2
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 35 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: This was in that thread: 2
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