Whatever Happened To Mike Quick?

[vincec]

On 4/13/2019 at 2:01 AM, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Sorry, don't know what happened to Quick...  but if you're interested in old Eagles, Quick and McNabb were the poor man's version of Harold Charmichael and Randall Cunningham.  Keith Jackson was an unstoppable force at TE, too.  

I think saying that Randall Cunningham was a poor mans version on Donovan McNabb would be more accurate.

[SoTier]

48 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Awesome history lesson!!!

This of course omits the times where the Bills stood pat and made insane selections such as Whitner, McKelvin, a half crippled MaGahee, and a host of others.  Then on a rare trade down, they walked away from Mahomes and Watson.

 

This particular draft will tell us much about our future.

 

You missed the gem of taking Aaron Maybin instead of Brian Orakpo at #9 in 2009, probably the perfect example of why a team shouldn't draft for need and also why a HC shouldn't be given control of personnel unless his name is Belichick.

[SoTier]

26 minutes ago, Steve O said:

re TJ Grahm - saw a special about Wilson where they showed the Seattle war room in 2012 before their third round pick. They knew they no chance to get Wilson once the Bills traded ahead of them in the third. Then they showed the announcement of the Bills pick. Big sigh of relief in the war room. Make sure you don't have anything close buy that can be thrown through your TV if you ever see the special.

Re Watkins - I wanted the Bills to stand pat and pick Aaron Donald with that pick. They also could have had Mack with the pick they traded up to

Re Jones - Ever the optimist, I'm hoping the book is still out. Moulds didn't pan out until his third year. we'll see.

 

I was really po'd that the Bills didn't take Wilson.  He was clearly a first round talent -- probably a top 5 pick -- if there hadn't been so much prejudice against short QBs at the time.  Wilson was the reason that Mayfield was taken #1 rather than on Day 2.

 

I don't think that Jones will ever be a top NFL WR although he could develop into a solid one.   A lot of the Bills "misses" have been of that kind -- spending more to get a solid player rather than taking an excellent player.

[Steve O]

13 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

You missed the gem of taking Aaron Maybin instead of Brian Orakpo at #9 in 2009, probably the perfect example of why a team shouldn't draft for need and also why a HC shouldn't be given control of personnel unless his name is Belichick.

He was talking about trades to move up. Stood pat for Maybin.

1 minute ago, SoTier said:

 

I was really po'd that the Bills didn't take Wilson.  He was clearly a first round talent -- probably a top 5 pick -- if there hadn't been so much prejudice against short QBs at the time.  Wilson was the reason that Mayfield was taken #1 rather than on Day 2.

 

I don't think that Jones will ever be a top NFL WR although he could develop into a solid one.   A lot of the Bills "misses" have been of that kind -- spending more to get a solid player rather than taking an excellent player.

Well, RGIII went #2 that year, Tannehill #8 - I'm sure Washington and Miami want a redo. Trent Richardson went 3 and Justin Blackman #5 so yeah, clearly a top 5 pick.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Steve O said:

re TJ Grahm - saw a special about Wilson where they showed the Seattle war room in 2012 before their third round pick. They knew they no chance to get Wilson once the Bills traded ahead of them in the third. Then they showed the announcement of the Bills pick. Big sigh of relief in the war room. Make sure you don't have anything close buy that can be thrown through your TV if you ever see the special.

Re Watkins - I wanted the Bills to stand pat and pick Aaron Donald with that pick. They also could have had Mack with the pick they traded up to

Re Jones - Ever the optimist, I'm hoping the book is still out. Moulds didn't pan out until his third year. we'll see.

 

I am still "salty" about that move.  I don't need that special to make me saltier.  We needed to take a QB.   Yes, we have Fitzpatrick, yes we gave him a big contract, yes he's shown he can play in the NFL but how well?  he also threw 23 INTs in 2011.  That means it's the perfect time to draft a guy to develop in case Fitz doesn't take that step.  We should be doing so on a regular basis anyway.

 

So here we are in the 3rd, not only Wilson but also Foles and Cousins are still on the board.  We trade up.  I shout "YES!" 

 

I know we're gonna do it.  We're going to draft a QB.  I want Wilson, Cousins my 2nd choice.

 

We draft....WHO?

 

Sometimes it sucks being a Bills fan, and sometimes it blows great big chunks.

[Cripple Creek]

1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Yes, but unlike the Henry offspring, all had different parentage.

Diversity is good.

9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I am still "salty" about that move.  I don't need that special to make me saltier.  We needed to take a QB.   Yes, we have Fitzpatrick, yes we gave him a big contract, yes he's shown he can play in the NFL but how well?  he also threw 23 INTs in 2011.  That means it's the perfect time to draft a guy to develop in case Fitz doesn't take that step.  We should be doing so on a regular basis anyway.

 

So here we are in the 3rd, not only Wilson but also Foles and Cousins are still on the board.  We trade up.  I shout "YES!" 

 

I know we're gonna do it.  We're going to draft a QB.  I want Wilson, Cousins my 2nd choice.

 

We draft....WHO?

 

Sometimes it sucks being a Bills fan, and sometimes it blows great big chunks.

Let the past go. You’re too young to be getting worry lines. 

 

Today is is a good day.

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

1 hour ago, vincec said:

I think saying that Randall Cunningham was a poor mans version on Donovan McNabb would be more accurate.

Must be a 'Cuse guy.  Cunningham was the QB you feared playing, McNabb was the leader of a talented team.  

[BuffaloBill]

On 4/13/2019 at 6:55 AM, njbuff said:

Perry Tuttle???

 

Then Tony Hunter in 83..........

 

Then Greg Bell in 84 (even though he wasn’t awful with the Bills, just didn’t mesh when Kelly arrived in 86).

 

Ah, skill position busts in back to back to back drafts.

 

Good times indeed.

 

This scenario scares me as people talk about using the #9 this year on a TE or WR.  Seems too high of a pick to go TE and does not appear to be “lock” at WR.

[without a drought]

The OP puts in the link for Quick's career stats but then he either ignores games played or thinks the G stands for goals, because he can't seem to figure out what happened to his career.

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

25 minutes ago, without a drought said:

The OP puts in the link for Quick's career stats but then he either ignores games played or thinks the G stands for goals, because he can't seem to figure out what happened to his career.

 

His YPG plummeted during 2 years where he played a full season/missed only a couple games.  It's legit to ask why.  QB switch from Jaws to Cunningham is the probable answer, and then as Cunningham "got it" injuries took their toll and the games played tell the story.

[vincec]

8 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Must be a 'Cuse guy.  Cunningham was the QB you feared playing, McNabb was the leader of a talented team.  

Cunningham was the guy who could make a spectacular play or throw it right to the defense, to paraphrase Jimmy Johnson. There's a reason he was 1-5 in the playoffs with the Eagles, despite having one of the great defenses of the decade on his side. To me he's actually third in Eagle QB history, behind both McNabb and Jaworski.

Edited April 14, 2019 by vincec

[LSHMEAB]

7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

His YPG plummeted during 2 years where he played a full season/missed only a couple games.  It's legit to ask why.  QB switch from Jaws to Cunningham is the probable answer, and then as Cunningham "got it" injuries took their toll and the games played tell the story.

To quote Dumb and Dumber, "talk about being in the WRONG place at the WRONG time."

 

I've always felt like Eric Moulds could have been a HOF WR if he hadn't been in Levy's doghouse the first two years and played with an upper echelon QB his entire career.

 

The WR position is really dependent on the right QB.

[biggerdaddynj]

I know what happened to Mike Quick .. he just announced the Eagles pick in the second round.  ?

[NYGPopgun10]

On 4/13/2019 at 7:16 AM, SoTier said:

 

The Bills have demonstrated an almost magical ability to trade up to take the wrong player, which is an indictment of how bad their scouting and personnel decision making have been over the decades -- and that seems to regardless of the regime.   Their more recent trade up faux pas include trading back into the 1st in 2004 to draft JP Losman when they could have taken Matt Schaub in the 2nd or even maybe the third and gotten a significantly better QB -- or they could have simply waited until 2005 to take Aaron Rodgers with their #18 pick.  Russ Brandon and Dick Jauron traded back into the first round in 2006 to take John McCargo who barely played because of injury issues so just about anybody else would have been a better pick.  In 2012 Buddy Nix traded up in the third round to take forgettable WR TJ Graham instead of taking QB Russell Wilson.  In 2014, the  Bills traded their 2014 and 2015 first round picks to draft WR Sammy Watkins rather than Odell Beckham Jr or Mike Evans.  Finally, Brandon and McDermott traded up in the 2nd round in 2017 to take Zay Jones rather than JuJu Smith-Schuster.  Hopefully, Beane breaks the pattern because he traded up twice in the first round of the 2018 draft to take Josh Allen and/or Tremaine Edmunds.

 

I think the Bills finally are headed in the right direction. They got their QB last year in the very athletic Josh Allen. Now, they wound up with a good defensive player and line help to protect Allen. Maybe they finally have a plan. It's a lot better than the circus in East Rutherford. 

[Albany,n.y.]

3 hours ago, NYGPopgun10 said:

 

I think the Bills finally are headed in the right direction. They got their QB last year in the very athletic Josh Allen. Now, they wound up with a good defensive player and line help to protect Allen. Maybe they finally have a plan. It's a lot better than the circus in East Rutherford. 

Which one?  The one that gutted their roster & drafted a player at #6 who they hope doesn't play for 3 years, or the team that hired a head coach who looks like a mental patient and then hired 2 assistants who hate each other?  

[Reader]

On 4/13/2019 at 4:16 AM, SoTier said:

 

The Bills have demonstrated an almost magical ability to trade up to take the wrong player, which is an indictment of how bad their scouting and personnel decision making have been over the decades -- and that seems to regardless of the regime.   Their more recent trade up faux pas include trading back into the 1st in 2004 to draft JP Losman when they could have taken Matt Schaub in the 2nd or even maybe the third and gotten a significantly better QB -- or they could have simply waited until 2005 to take Aaron Rodgers with their #18 pick.  Russ Brandon and Dick Jauron traded back into the first round in 2006 to take John McCargo who barely played because of injury issues so just about anybody else would have been a better pick.  In 2012 Buddy Nix traded up in the third round to take forgettable WR TJ Graham instead of taking QB Russell Wilson.  In 2014, the  Bills traded their 2014 and 2015 first round picks to draft WR Sammy Watkins rather than Odell Beckham Jr or Mike Evans.  Finally, Brandon and McDermott traded up in the 2nd round in 2017 to take Zay Jones rather than JuJu Smith-Schuster.  Hopefully, Beane breaks the pattern because he traded up twice in the first round of the 2018 draft to take Josh Allen and/or Tremaine Edmunds.

 

The only challenge with that criteria is that the odds of being THAT successful are <1%. Pretty much any trade up will leave at least one player who will be more talented.

[Poleshifter]

On 4/13/2019 at 6:31 AM, LabattBlue said:

The floodgates are open.  I can see it now...

 

Hi guys!  Anyone know what happened to Don Majkowski?

 

Next day...

 

Hi guys!  Anyone know what happened to Brett Favre?

 

Next day...

 

Antonio Freeman

Robert Brooks

Bryce Paup

Jimmy Bratworst

Harold Sauerkraut

etc...

 

 

 

 

 

So why do you enter such a thread? Just to complain about it? OP liked that a WR was named Quick.

 

Go visit some other thread, fer chrissake.

 

[SoTier]

6 hours ago, Reader said:

 

The only challenge with that criteria is that the odds of being THAT successful are <1%. Pretty much any trade up will leave at least one player who will be more talented.

 

The problem with the Bills is that they have missed so often on their trade ups, most notably with Losman, McCargo, and Graham.  All three were busts so anybody they would have taken in their places would have been better simply because they would have had the extra picks.  Your view is dead on with Watkins and Jones, although since the Bills didn't keep Watkins, that move was a waste of draft capital, and Jones has yet to prove that he's not a bust.