Deranged Rhino Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: How many times have you heard a newscaster with "breaking news" and said to yourself, "noshit Sherlock, I've known that for 2 1/2 years"? True fact. While I don't claim to know more than investigators, I definitely will put my knowledge and understanding of the material/issues up against any "journalist" who's been covering Russia for the past three years. And I'll either expose them as liars or ignorant. I would bet many down here could do the same. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: 27 minutes ago, /dev/null said: I disagree that DR seems to know more than the investigators. Nothing against DR (other than he's a BSC conspiracy Ufologist ), he's done an outstanding job shining a light where others didn't want to. But the investigators know more about what's going on. It's just, they either don't really care or they know the perpetrators are untouchable. For all the talk of land of the free and home of the brave, we've devolved into a feudal system with an aristocracy and the MSM is a modern clergy preaching down to keep the peasantry in line For the record, I fully agree with that take -- I do not know more than the actual investigators in the DOJ/FBI et al. The people in the DOJ/FBI/USIC who I speak to regularly remind me of that fact For the record, I said that it seems, and the next sentence expanded on that with: Quote It's really hard for me to believe that though so it keeps coming back to the depths of the corruption may also involve those investigators enough to bury the whole proceedings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: True fact. While I don't claim to know more than investigators, I definitely will put my knowledge and understanding of the material/issues up against any "journalist" who's been covering Russia for the past three years. And I'll either expose them as liars or ignorant. I would bet many down here could do the same. I have the news on in the background a lot and shake my head in disbelief how uninformed some most nearly all of those people are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I have the news on in the background a lot and shake my head in disbelief how uninformed some most nearly all of those people are. I am not certain they are all uninformed (some are), but others are willfully ignorant, still others see themselves as gatekeepers of information, and yet others are merely talking heads reading, and only "knowing" what the TelePrompter tells them to say (and think). Sometimes I worry that what has happened is too much for the average person to grasp, especially with a complicit media keeping the main details away from the average citizen who does not actively seek out the source documents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: How many times have you heard a newscaster with "breaking news" and said to yourself, "noshit Sherlock, I've known that for 2 1/2 years"? I've been doing that, off and on, for twenty years on different topics. Although half the time, I won't say to myself "No *****," but instead "In accordance with the prophecy." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: How many times have you heard a newscaster with "breaking news" and said to yourself, "noshit Sherlock, I've known that for 2 1/2 years"? O'Donnell went with a sole source who stated "if this is true..." during his upload of fake news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/02/inspector-generals-report-exposes-another-collusion-myth/ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Lindsey Graham Urges AG Barr To Declassify 9 Categories Of Information From FISA Abuse Probe * Sen. Lindsey Graham sent a letter to Attorney General William Barr urging him to declassify a slew of documents related to the FISA abuse probe. * Graham listed nine separate categories of documents he said should be made public. * The documents would shed light on how the FBI assessed the infamous Steele dossier, which the FBI used to obtain surveillance warrants against Carter Page. </snip> 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 another one that will probably go nowhere. ACLJ Files Lawsuit Against FBI Over FOIA Regarding Comey’s Spies in the White House 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Foxx said: another one that will probably go nowhere. ACLJ Files Lawsuit Against FBI Over FOIA Regarding Comey’s Spies in the White House It will be interesting to see what they get when a Federal Court rules in their favor... 5 years from now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 THEY WEREN’T INVESTIGATING, THEY WERE PUTTING ON A SHOW: Why did the FBI’s “collusion” investigation pass up this red-hot tip? . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, B-Man said: THEY WEREN’T INVESTIGATING, THEY WERE PUTTING ON A SHOW: Why did the FBI’s “collusion” investigation pass up this red-hot tip? . Ummm, because Rick Wilson is a "never Trumper" who never even worked on the Presidential campaign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: Ummm, because Rick Wilson is a "never Trumper" who never even worked on the Presidential campaign? The article makes that point clear. Rick Wilson hired Fusion GPS to do oppo research on Trump, he's also the source of the tinkle tape (which his staff admitted in 2016 was fake -- but no one covered it). Fusion and Wilson stopped working months prior to the Clinton campaign hiring Simpson/Steele to create the dossier. That the FBI ignored him is more about Simpson knowing what Wilson had (and what was invented) and knowing it could never be used as efficiently in the FISC as the work of Steele who had "objectivity" and "expertise" in the eyes of the court. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: The article makes that point clear. Rick Wilson hired Fusion GPS to do oppo research on Trump, he's also the source of the tinkle tape (which his staff admitted in 2016 was fake -- but no one covered it). Fusion and Wilson stopped working months prior to the Clinton campaign hiring Simpson/Steele to create the dossier. That the FBI ignored him is more about Simpson knowing what Wilson had (and what was invented) and knowing it could never be used as efficiently in the FISC as the work of Steele who had "objectivity" and "expertise" in the eyes of the court. That's fine, but the article doesn't go into all that and doesn't seem to realize all of those details. Here is the last sentence of the article: To test the hypothesis that Steele and Simpson had reliable information, all the FBI agents needed to do was call Rick Wilson. They didn’t pick up the phone. My simple point is why should the FBI pick up the phone when Simpson's statement is clearly disproven with a simple investigation? Just a really poor article IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, GaryPinC said: That's fine, but the article doesn't go into all that and doesn't seem to realize all of those details. It's the 5th paragraph of the story: Simpson’s oddball claim, which emerged in FBI files made public by recent Judicial Watch litigation, would have been easy to debunk. Wilson was already a well-known “Never-Trump” Republican. He not only didn’t work for the campaign; Wilson had told CNN in the early presidential primary days of 2015 that he was gathering opposition research of his own on Trump. He bragged that his file on Trump was going to be “the most magnificent document in history.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's the 5th paragraph of the story: Simpson’s oddball claim, which emerged in FBI files made public by recent Judicial Watch litigation, would have been easy to debunk. Wilson was already a well-known “Never-Trump” Republican. He not only didn’t work for the campaign; Wilson had told CNN in the early presidential primary days of 2015 that he was gathering opposition research of his own on Trump. He bragged that his file on Trump was going to be “the most magnificent document in history.” You silly horned pachyderm. Don't you know you can't just post articles, you have to read them to us too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's the 5th paragraph of the story: Simpson’s oddball claim, which emerged in FBI files made public by recent Judicial Watch litigation, would have been easy to debunk. Wilson was already a well-known “Never-Trump” Republican. He not only didn’t work for the campaign; Wilson had told CNN in the early presidential primary days of 2015 that he was gathering opposition research of his own on Trump. He bragged that his file on Trump was going to be “the most magnificent document in history.” Again, I get where you're coming from on this. The FBI ignored Wilson because Steele's info was considered much more reliable to the FISC court than Wilson's. But this article doesn't tie the tinkle tape to Wilson nor the fact that he worked with Fusion. The article seems to have the perspective that the FBI talking to Wilson would have debunked all of Simpson/Steele's claims, since Wilson was never in the campaign and never sued. My point is the FBI's initial review of the tip may have caused them to drop it as unreliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 HEADS. ON. PIKES.: The Comey-Brennan Conspiracy to Violate Trump’s Civil Rights. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, B-Man said: HEADS. ON. PIKES.: The Comey-Brennan Conspiracy to Violate Trump’s Civil Rights. . Whose heads and where do you want them displayed? A bit barbaric IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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