Deranged Rhino Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...diGenova says Barr got the Comey decision right...BUT....more to follow............. Joe diGenova: Barr's Comey decision was the right call. But this is just the beginning By Joseph diGenova | Fox News Published 3 hours ago The decision not to prosecute former FBI Director James Comey over his deliberate leaks to the media isn’t a sign of weakness or lack of will, but of the professionalism and well-reasoned restraint of President Trump’s Department of Justice. Attorney General Bill Barr’s number one goal since taking the helm at the DOJ has been to restore the impartial and professional ethos that has characterized that agency for more than 200 years. He is working diligently to cleanse it of the stain of politically driven vindictiveness that Obama-era officials created by grossly mishandling the Clinton email investigation, and then, even more egregiously, orchestrating the series of events that led to the Russiagate witch hunt. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/joe-digenova-barr-james-comey-leaks-decision I've said this a dozen times if I've said this once: when people put a date out there, it's almost 100% certain to be incorrect. Dates change and move, no need to telegraph as Joe did last week (when he claimed declass would hit Wed). Doesn't mean Joe (or anyone pushing a date) is doing so for nefarious reasons, it just means they're not thinking things through or being fed bad information by people pretending to have more access than they do. Happens a lot. We are in a dead period right now (famous last words). IMO nothing is going to happen until Coats leaves his position -- that happens on the 15th (I said 12th earlier, that was incorrect). That doesn't mean declass will hit on the 15th, it just means that's the earliest it'll come. Upcoming markers/events: * Declassification of DOJ/FBI documents (how many? no one knows) * IG Report on Comey (seems likely to come soon) * IG Report on FISA abuse (likely to come after Labor Day) * Durham/Huber's investigation (unclear -- won't be until after the FISA report at the earliest) I don't know dates -- or the order those will be rolled out -- but the above order seems likely. If Comey (and everyone else) gets a pass on the FISA stuff -- with all the evidence out there in OSINT already -- then it's time to be upset. Until then, it's all about the right timing. 3
3rdnlng Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I've said this a dozen times if I've said this once: when people put a date out there, it's almost 100% certain to be incorrect. Dates change and move, no need to telegraph as Joe did last week (when he claimed declass would hit Wed). Doesn't mean Joe (or anyone pushing a date) is doing so for nefarious reasons, it just means they're not thinking things through or being fed bad information by people pretending to have more access than they do. Happens a lot. We are in a dead period right now (famous last words). IMO nothing is going to happen until Coats leaves his position -- that happens on the 15th (I said 12th earlier, that was incorrect). That doesn't mean declass will hit on the 15th, it just means that's the earliest it'll come. Upcoming markers/events: * Declassification of DOJ/FBI documents (how many? no one knows) * IG Report on Comey (seems likely to come soon) * IG Report on FISA abuse (likely to come after Labor Day) * Durham/Huber's investigation (unclear -- won't be until after the FISA report at the earliest) I don't know dates -- or the order those will be rolled out -- but the above order seems likely. If Comey (and everyone else) gets a pass on the FISA stuff -- with all the evidence out there in OSINT already -- then it's time to be upset. Until then, it's all about the right timing. In other words people, calm down. Thisshit takes time and is all interdependent so it naturally is subject to delays. What's important is that we get it right. Have a beer, or for youins on the west coast, have a Mimosa or Bloody Mary and sit back. 2
B-Man Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: In other words people, calm down. Thisshit takes time and is all interdependent so it naturally is subject to delays. What's important is that we get it right. Have a beer, or for youins on the west coast, have a Mimosa or Bloody Mary and sit back. ....I want it NOW ! . 3 1
Deranged Rhino Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: In other words people, calm down. Thisshit takes time and is all interdependent so it naturally is subject to delays. What's important is that we get it right. Have a beer, or for youins on the west coast, have a Mimosa or Bloody Mary and sit back. 100% I can pull a half dozen or more posts from multiple people in the other DOJ/DS threads expressing just this bit of wisdom. Due process, PROPER due process, takes time. The wheels of justice move slow -- and when you're trying to build cases against establishment sacred cows, you have to get them air tight or the blowback will be severe (and in this case, dangerous for the rest of the country). We know now for certain the IG has referred at least the former director of the FBI for criminal charges. That's huge. We also know the IG can't prosecute, nor does the office have the reach of a US Attorney. The fact that Barr appointed Durham (and Sessions Huber) shows that there is more here than just "Russian propaganda". They're going to dig and, hopefully, do it right. The evidence is clear. If a mook like me can dig up this stuff, then I'm certain a properly empowered US Attorney can do even more. My only fear at the moment is the calendar turning to 2020 (and the real election season) before things really begin to move. That's been my fear since the start of this year... but I keep being told (and seeing enough happen to assuage me) that time is no longer a factor. 4 1
Deranged Rhino Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 Well -- Ohr's 302 is certainly part of the tranch of docs they want declassed... so let's see what we get from the DOJ next week: 2 1
Koko78 Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, B-Man said: ....I want it NOW ! . The beer, mimosa, or the bloody mary? 1
Deranged Rhino Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Koko78 said: The beer, mimosa, or the bloody mary? 1
3rdnlng Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Sounds like time for a garbage pail party! 1
Nanker Posted August 2, 2019 Author Posted August 2, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 1:11 PM, Deranged Rhino said: C doesn't = Comey. C=Coats. No declass until Coats is gone (12th of August) 15 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Lol the 12th Reminds me of a film I saw in college - The End of August at the Hotel Ozone. A subtitled dystopian post WWIII story of a female dominated foraging society. They killed the last living man. Well, on the bright side we can now unequivocally state that “although we could not come to the conclusion that he committed a crime, we are unable to come to a decision that he was innocent,” or some such bull####. 2
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Nanker said: Reminds me of a film I saw in college - The End of August at the Hotel Ozone. A subtitled dystopian post WWIII story of a female dominated foraging society. They killed the last living man. Well, on the bright side we can now unequivocally state that “although we could not come to the conclusion that he committed a crime, we are unable to come to a decision that he was innocent,” or some such bull####. The subject sounds a little heavy for porn, but...foraging females(!!!)...what the heck. I'll check it out.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 18 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: (Flynn's attorney venting) ...after the Mueller partisan hack job( aka the "Weissman Report"), AG Barr (I think) will take the non-partisan high road, being extremely methodical and not rushing, aiming for substance versus the menial crap....declining to prosecute Comey for leaks was a step to legitimize his work IMO......BUT.....don't worry....CNN and PMSNBC will be ready to pounce with attacks every nanosecond....foresee the lineup as Morning WhoaJoe, (Don) Juan Williams, Don (Juiced) Lemon, Chrissy (Everett) Matthews and Vanderbilt's Whatchamacallit Kid being the primary bomb throwers....stay tuned....
Deranged Rhino Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) Can confirm (that at least George believes this to be true) Watch Trey's reaction as she's talking about it. If that's on tape, it's over. And EVERYONE'S going to jail. Edited August 4, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 2 2
B-Man Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 Barr Has Far Bigger Things To Prosecute James Comey For Than Leaking Memos by Adam Mill Original Article . 2
njbuff Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 On 8/4/2019 at 12:35 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Can confirm (that at least George believes this to be true) Watch Trey's reaction as she's talking about it. If that's on tape, it's over. And EVERYONE'S going to jail. You really think that the Democrats are going to allow their brothers and sisters to go to jail without them putting up a war of resistance? Honest question. I hope I am wrong about Barr and Durham's tenacity to put these buggers behind bars (meaning they will let them off completely). The two tier justice system is just that "two tier" until proven otherwise.
Deranged Rhino Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 39 minutes ago, njbuff said: You really think that the Democrats are going to allow their brothers and sisters to go to jail without them putting up a war of resistance? Honest question. I hope I am wrong about Barr and Durham's tenacity to put these buggers behind bars (meaning they will let them off completely). The two tier justice system is just that "two tier" until proven otherwise. I'll answer it the same as I have for the past few years: if you go by history, it's rational/logical to assume that no one will be punished or indicted for the coup. I'm under no illusions about that, and fully admit my expectations for real justice is optimistic based on how we've seen the machine operate in the past. I'm just under the belief (and still am) that what we are witnessing is something entirely different. Things have been teed up perfectly to simultaneously restore faith in the concept of equal justice and in our core institutions by successfully charging and prosecuting multiple high level types who broke the law in their backdoor coup attempt. Names like Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Yates, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Baker, Lynch, Rice, Kerry et al. Things are still trending in that direction. And if you go back in the other Russia threads to two years ago and compare to today, I'd say those names are even more likely to go down than they were back then in even the most skeptical of eyes based on the evidence we have in OS, let alone what's yet to come out. But until charges are brought, things remain in doubt. And when in doubt, going by history is not a bad way to go. Chances are much higher that you'll turn out to be correct than I will, based solely on that. 1
njbuff Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 6 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: I'll answer it the same as I have for the past few years: if you go by history, it's rational/logical to assume that no one will be punished or indicted for the coup. I'm under no illusions about that, and fully admit my expectations for real justice is optimistic based on how we've seen the machine operate in the past. I'm just under the belief (and still am) that what we are witnessing is something entirely different. Things have been teed up perfectly to simultaneously restore faith in the concept of equal justice and in our core institutions by successfully charging and prosecuting multiple high level types who broke the law in their backdoor coup attempt. Names like Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Yates, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Baker, Lynch, Rice, Kerry et al. Things are still trending in that direction. And if you go back in the other Russia threads to two years ago and compare to today, I'd say those names are even more likely to go down than they were back then in even the most skeptical of eyes based on the evidence we have in OS, let alone what's yet to come out. But until charges are brought, things remain in doubt. And when in doubt, going by history is not a bad way to go. Chances are much higher that you'll turn out to be correct than I will, based solely on that. So many bad actors. Anybody with a brain can see this from a mile away. I hope I become surprised and heads start to roll sooner rather than later.
Hedge Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Posting for the 2nd video: But...given what we have seen occur already, numerous times, I would expect further delays into the winter months. On 8/2/2019 at 9:58 AM, Deranged Rhino said: My only fear at the moment is the calendar turning to 2020 (and the real election season) before things really begin to move. That's been my fear since the start of this year... but I keep being told (and seeing enough happen to assuage me) that time is no longer a factor. I've been chewing on this (because that is my #1 concern right now) and was wondering if you are able to share why time is no longer a factor. Is it because what will come out will be so egregious? 2 1
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