Deranged Rhino Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Huckabee's trolling has gotten significantly funnier. Never mess with a man's daughter and expect him to do nothing. 4 3 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Huckabee's trolling has gotten significantly funnier. Never mess with a man's daughter and expect him to do nothing. He's always been a funny man. I don't always agree with him, but his delivery is usually excellent. 1
DC Tom Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I wonder if this will end up tracing back to a certain person's email server... 2
RochesterRob Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I wonder if this will end up tracing back to a certain person's email server... You'd think that she would have an independent dedicated server for such "business" and nothing else but if she is anything she is overconfident when it comes to her plans. Might be time to dust off the electric chairs which were used on the Rosenberg's if we are lucky.
B-Man Posted May 10, 2019 Posted May 10, 2019 REMINDER: Number of Dems who’ve eaten fried chicken during a Congressional hearing: 1; Number of Dems who’ve read the less-redacted Mueller report? 0 2
LB3 Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: (Trump retweeted this) Ok...the jig is up. That is clearly John Travolta in make up. 1
DC Tom Posted May 12, 2019 Posted May 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: No, they're not. They've got the media and a third of the country behind them. They control the narrative. The BEST thing that could happen would be for the AG report to indict the lot of them. Then they can scream "We're being politically persecuted by Trump!" and justify the violent coup they so desperately want. 1
GG Posted May 12, 2019 Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: No, they're not. They've got the media and a third of the country behind them. They control the narrative. The BEST thing that could happen would be for the AG report to indict the lot of them. Then they can scream "We're being politically persecuted by Trump!" and justify the violent coup they so desperately want. That's why they need to go through the board rooms of the media companies first. 1 1
DC Tom Posted May 12, 2019 Posted May 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, GG said: That's why they need to go through the board rooms of the media companies first. Strong-arm them, like Obama did the GM bond-holders? "Political persecution! Trump's a fascist! It was different when Obama did it!" And honestly...as someone who's still vitrolic about Obama's GM nonsense, I'm not entirely sure I'd entirely disagree with the first two points.
GG Posted May 12, 2019 Posted May 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Strong-arm them, like Obama did the GM bond-holders? "Political persecution! Trump's a fascist! It was different when Obama did it!" And honestly...as someone who's still vitrolic about Obama's GM nonsense, I'm not entirely sure I'd entirely disagree with the first two points. Not really, it will be done perfectly legally without excercising any extrajudicial authority. As I explained earlier, all the Feds have to do is show that there were more than compromised journalists who knew what was going on. If the editors were in on the fix, it's an easy mark for the news organization That should be enough to send shivers down the Directors spines. All of that can happen behind closed doors as a precursor to what can come if the newsrooms continue to play sides.
njbuff Posted May 12, 2019 Posted May 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Well, I will tell you Mr. President................. they are harassing the shyt out of you. Time to turn the tables, but that time will quickly run out.
DC Tom Posted May 12, 2019 Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, GG said: Not really, it will be done perfectly legally without excercising any extrajudicial authority. As I explained earlier, all the Feds have to do is show that there were more than compromised journalists who knew what was going on. If the editors were in on the fix, it's an easy mark for the news organization That should be enough to send shivers down the Directors spines. All of that can happen behind closed doors as a precursor to what can come if the newsrooms continue to play sides. But - seriously - the First Amendment guarantees the press's freedom to play sides. Even to the point of lying. Such damages are are levied against editors for such are universally civil suits. The bar for pursuing criminal charges for false reporting is necessarily high, as even complete nonsense is protected by the First Amendment (and rightfully so, on the principle that restricting the press becomes a trivial matter if you can charge them with publishing "fake news'.) And also, it's not the FBI's IG's job - or any IG's job - to investigate the press's role in enabling a conspiracy. Horowitz's report should identify the recipients of leaked information, and the relationships between the press and the concerned DOJ and IC personalities and departments, and likewise how those personalities and departments thereby used and leveraged the published leaks...but should an internal investigation of the FBI indict the boards of media corporations as a result? What would the constitutional implications of that particular Pandora's Box end up being?
GG Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 12 hours ago, DC Tom said: But - seriously - the First Amendment guarantees the press's freedom to play sides. Even to the point of lying. Such damages are are levied against editors for such are universally civil suits. The bar for pursuing criminal charges for false reporting is necessarily high, as even complete nonsense is protected by the First Amendment (and rightfully so, on the principle that restricting the press becomes a trivial matter if you can charge them with publishing "fake news'.) And also, it's not the FBI's IG's job - or any IG's job - to investigate the press's role in enabling a conspiracy. Horowitz's report should identify the recipients of leaked information, and the relationships between the press and the concerned DOJ and IC personalities and departments, and likewise how those personalities and departments thereby used and leveraged the published leaks...but should an internal investigation of the FBI indict the boards of media corporations as a result? What would the constitutional implications of that particular Pandora's Box end up being? It will have nothing to do with First Amendment. If you believe Greggy's theory that some in the press were part of the intel machinery to the extent of actually receiving payments, then it's a fairly straightforward conspiracy case that can very easily ensnare the organizations themselves. Just like the charges against Assange are not about him publishing the leaked documents, but being an active participant in helping to steal the information. Just like Arthur Anderson as a company did not commit any crimes, yet that didn't stop criminal charges from being filed. The BoD members won't be indicted, but they'll be the Directors of major companies facing criminal charges, which will kill the companies. They have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to prevent that. That's why I'm guessing there will be a lot of behind the scenes discussions if DoJ has truly incriminating evidence. 2
SoCal Deek Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 The press is given access in a way that the average free speech citizen is not. They have a responsibility to report the truth just like a witness in court does. We’ve moved far away from that basic principle now.
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2019 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 10:45 PM, Deranged Rhino said: (Trump retweeted this) Then the AG should be happy to testify in front of the House to talk about this lie. Why is he running and hiding from a co-equal branch of government. He acts more like he has something to hide.
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