B-Man Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) TARGETED: EXCLUSIVE: The Treasury Department Spied on Flynn, Manafort, and the Trump Family, Says Whistleblower. President Barack Obama’s Treasury Department regularly surveilled retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn’s financial records and transactions beginning in December 2015 and well into 2017, before, during and after when he served at the White House as President Donald Trump’s National Security Director, a former senior Treasury Department official, and veteran of the intelligence community, told the Star Newspapers. “I started seeing things that were not correct, so I did my own little investigation, because I wanted to make sure what I was seeing was correct” she said. “You never want to draw attention to something if there is not anything there.” The whistleblower said she only saw metadata, that is names and dates when the general’s financial records were accessed. “I never saw what they saw.” By March 2016, the whistleblower said she and a colleague, who was detailed to Treasury from the intelligence community, became convinced that the surveillance of Flynn was not tied to legitimate criminal or national security concerns, but was straight-up political surveillance among other illegal activity occurring at Treasury. . . . This ruse was to get around using classified resources to surveil Americans, she said. Once the Treasury personnel had enough information about someone they were targeting from the black box, they would go to the white box for faster and more informed search. It was routine for these searches that had no criminal nor national security predicate, merely a political predicate, she said. People need to be jailed for this kind of thing. Edited May 18, 2020 by B-Man 3 1 1
B-Man Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 One If by Land, Two If by Sea, and Three If They’re Using the CIA In reporting on apparent CIA involvement in spying on an American citizen, RedState’s Bonchie observed: If this were a Republican implicated, it’d be treated as the largest political scandal of the last hundred years. And so it would. Therefore: Let’s treat it as the largest political scandal of the last hundred years. I don’t see evidence that we need the cooperation of the blue media establishment to convince a majority of the American people that such is the case. The Other Guys like to behave as though they are the gatekeepers of public opinion. But we don’t have to accept their formulation. There’s an awful lot of empirical evidence out there that they only have 35 to 45 percent of the voters under management. We can get to the rest, where “we” means the combined forces of the red media and the red citizenry. We do not have to sit here and grouse that “the media” won’t cover this. Sure it will. And that’s because we’re the media, too. As the Mueller investigation was winding down, multiple polls began appearing to tell us that a majority of registered voters — a small majority to be sure, but a majority nevertheless — believed the Mueller investigation to be “politically motivated” or “a partisan witch hunt.” We enabled that. Activists and media figures on our side were the only ones who told people just how crooked that whole Mueller Show really was. It sure wasn’t CNN or The New York Times. {snip} Very few Americans know this was going on. But we do. We know it for a fact. There are a lot of these facts. It isn’t just Flynn. It isn’t just Carter Page. It isn’t just FISA. It isn’t just an FBI Director who lied under oath to the Court; or a Director of National Intelligence who lied under oath to Congress; or even a CIA Director who persuaded foreign allies to run sting operations on U.S. citizens for political purposes. It’s all of that, and a lot more. Only a tiny percentage of the public has the vaguest idea how much of it there really is. Things we know for a fact. We need to fix that. Before November. More at the link: https://www.redstate.com/robert_a_hahn/2020/05/18/one-if-by-land-two-if-by-sea-and-three-if-theyre-using-the-cia/ 5
B-Man Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) ADDED: Disappointing, but not really unexpected. It would be almost impossible to convict a former president and likely would lead to others getting off. Find all his lieutenants guilty and that will end his false legacy. Edited May 18, 2020 by B-Man 1 4
Deranged Rhino Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, B-Man said: ADDED: Disappointing, but not really unexpected. It would be almost impossible to convict a former president and likely would lead to others getting off. Find all his lieutenants guilty and that will end his false legacy. Entirely expected -- but what this does is turn the heat up to 11 on this guy: And there's a slew of others in serious peril, including cabinet level. 3 1
B-Man Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 "As to President Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don't expect Mr. Durham's work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man," Barr said. 2
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Key excerpt: I understand what he is saying (and it is right), but it is tough when one side plays by the rules, and the other side is always breaking the rules. And the rule-breakers never seem to pay, and are instead, rewarded. 8
Hedge Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, B-Man said: "As to President Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don't expect Mr. Durham's work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man," Barr said. What about tomorrow/next week? 6 1
B-Man Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hedge said: What about tomorrow/next week? THAT is the question, I think. 4
Koko78 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 5 hours ago, B-Man said: TARGETED: EXCLUSIVE: The Treasury Department Spied on Flynn, Manafort, and the Trump Family, Says Whistleblower. President Barack Obama’s Treasury Department regularly surveilled retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn’s financial records and transactions beginning in December 2015 and well into 2017, before, during and after when he served at the White House as President Donald Trump’s National Security Director, a former senior Treasury Department official, and veteran of the intelligence community, told the Star Newspapers. “I started seeing things that were not correct, so I did my own little investigation, because I wanted to make sure what I was seeing was correct” she said. “You never want to draw attention to something if there is not anything there.” The whistleblower said she only saw metadata, that is names and dates when the general’s financial records were accessed. “I never saw what they saw.” By March 2016, the whistleblower said she and a colleague, who was detailed to Treasury from the intelligence community, became convinced that the surveillance of Flynn was not tied to legitimate criminal or national security concerns, but was straight-up political surveillance among other illegal activity occurring at Treasury. . . . This ruse was to get around using classified resources to surveil Americans, she said. Once the Treasury personnel had enough information about someone they were targeting from the black box, they would go to the white box for faster and more informed search. It was routine for these searches that had no criminal nor national security predicate, merely a political predicate, she said. People need to be jailed for this kind of thing. First we don't believe all women anymore, now we don't believe whistleblowers! 2
Nanker Posted May 18, 2020 Author Posted May 18, 2020 Remember, Comey and the Bureau told Trump and Flynn they weren’t under investigation. 7
4merper4mer Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Entirely expected -- but what this does is turn the heat up to 11 on this guy: And there's a slew of others in serious peril, including cabinet level. Lol. 11? Let me know when Beardy McGee learns how to turn on the pilot light.
Prickly Pete Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Nanker said: Remember, Comey and the Bureau told Trump and Flynn they weren’t under investigation. I forgot about that one. There are so many incidents to remember that I might need to re-read some of these threads to freshen up. Edited May 19, 2020 by Prickly Pete
4merper4mer Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 15 hours ago, Hedge said: What about tomorrow/next week? If not then, for sure by the 12th.
Orlando Buffalo Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 18 hours ago, B-Man said: "As to President Obama and Vice President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don't expect Mr. Durham's work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man," Barr said. I actually agree with this since it is likely he insulated himself from it and unless Comey, McCabe, and ALL the other people state Obama was part of it then he walks, might not be fair but it is the way it works.
Tiberius Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barr-dismisses-trumps-claim-that-russia-inquiry-was-an-obama-plot/ar-BB14g140
Prickly Pete Posted May 19, 2020 Posted May 19, 2020 Actually, Barr didn't dismiss it, he just said at this time, based on what he has seen, he isn't expecting them to be charged. Big difference. The NYT...(smh) 1
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