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4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Can confirm this sentiment is real from the people at DOJ/other that I keep in touch with. 

 

I remember when James Comey was painted as the paragon of virtue.  How about we let Beardy McGee prove it before we anoint him anything?  So far he deserves the "Brien Taylor, Ben Grieve, Tony Mandarich hype sans results" award I the category of government oversight.

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1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

I remember when James Comey was painted as the paragon of virtue.  How about we let Beardy McGee prove it before we anoint him anything?  So far he deserves the "Brien Taylor, Ben Grieve, Tony Mandarich hype sans results" award I the category of government oversight.


I completely agree with your sentiment. The point is not to anoint him, but to acknowledge that he’s got a good record of getting results in otherwise dire looking circumstances. And he’s got the respect of people throughout the bureau and in justice. 
 

That cuts both ways, of course. Because if he comes up w no indictments (or a meager sacrificial lamb ala scooter Libby) after this — as you expect and history proves is the most rational expectation — it will be hard to argue that he wasn’t up to the task and/or somehow compromised. 
 

Jury is still out as to which way it ultimately goes, but the signs for the past 2+ weeks are all very positive. Especially when you consider the information dropped in those weeks is really just a slice of what’s known simply through OS information. But we will see one way or the other soon. :beer: 

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5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:


I completely agree with your sentiment. The point is not to anoint him, but to acknowledge that he’s got a good record of getting results in otherwise dire looking circumstances. And he’s got the respect of people throughout the bureau and in justice. 
 

That cuts both ways, of course. Because if he comes up w no indictments (or a meager sacrificial lamb ala scooter Libby) after this — as you expect and history proves is the most rational expectation — it will be hard to argue that he wasn’t up to the task and/or somehow compromised. 
 

Jury is still out as to which way it ultimately goes, but the signs for the past 2+ weeks are all very positive. Especially when you consider the information dropped in those weeks is really just a slice of what’s known simply through OS information. But we will see one way or the other soon. :beer: 

 

 The medias unrelenting efforts to defend the indefensible as this information drips out is also a positive sign. Zeroing in on the target.

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5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:


I completely agree with your sentiment. The point is not to anoint him, but to acknowledge that he’s got a good record of getting results in otherwise dire looking circumstances. And he’s got the respect of people throughout the bureau and in justice. 
 

That cuts both ways, of course. Because if he comes up w no indictments (or a meager sacrificial lamb ala scooter Libby) after this — as you expect and history proves is the most rational expectation — it will be hard to argue that he wasn’t up to the task and/or somehow compromised. 
 

Jury is still out as to which way it ultimately goes, but the signs for the past 2+ weeks are all very positive. Especially when you consider the information dropped in those weeks is really just a slice of what’s known simply through OS information. But we will see one way or the other soon. :beer: 

Here's how it goes:

 

A few more months of information drops and chatter.  If Trump loses it's all over.  That's the current plan.   If Trump wins then you'll get a little more delay, another set of distractions and cans being kicked down the road for 4 more years.

 

Look back on the board archives to when everyone was excited that such an honest guy like Comey was looking into Hillary's obviously egregiously inept and deceptive plan to hide her emails from public record.  Who said "she's in trouble now"?  And who took one look at that doofus and started calling him "lap dog Comey"?

 

There is a ton you've found and showed on this board over a long period.  A lot of it is in writing and yet not only has nothing been done, but the opposite, like impeachment, is brazenly shoved in our faces.  What should happen and what will happen are not the same thing.  Even in the most clear cut little segment of all of this, Flynn being railroaded and the prosecution acknowledging the documentation showing it, you have a judge inviting anybody who feels like it to become the new prosecution.  They're continuing to shove everything in everyone's face because they can.  

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4 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Here's how it goes:

 

A few more months of information drops and chatter.  If Trump loses it's all over.  That's the current plan.   If Trump wins then you'll get a little more delay, another set of distractions and cans being kicked down the road for 4 more years.

 

Look back on the board archives to when everyone was excited that such an honest guy like Comey was looking into Hillary's obviously egregiously inept and deceptive plan to hide her emails from public record.  Who said "she's in trouble now"?  And who took one look at that doofus and started calling him "lap dog Comey"?

 

There is a ton you've found and showed on this board over a long period.  A lot of it is in writing and yet not only has nothing been done, but the opposite, like impeachment, is brazenly shoved in our faces.  What should happen and what will happen are not the same thing.  Even in the most clear cut little segment of all of this, Flynn being railroaded and the prosecution acknowledging the documentation showing it, you have a judge inviting anybody who feels like it to become the new prosecution.  They're continuing to shove everything in everyone's face because they can.  


Well, that is not true about nothing has been done. No one has been frog marched to Gitmo, but things have happened. 

People have been fired. That may seem like an "oh nooooos!" to you, but it not "nothing" to them. The top of the FBI and CIA has been replaced. The swamp has slowly started to drain.  A full scale investigation was launched over a year ago, and the person in charge is someone with the ability to read classified documents, impanel a grand jury, and indict people.  Declassified documents have begun to drip out showing the American people what was/is going on.  The next few months should be an interesting ride.

Swamp creatures were never going to go quietly. They have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at President Trump, and he has not only survived, he's done some pretty decent presidentin' with 95% of the "msm," all the  Democrats, all the swamp creatures, and people tend to forget that in his first two years the House Republicans (led by Paul Ryan) were not exactly on Trump's side.

Will this lead to guilty pleas, trials, convictions, prison? No idea. But things are starting to pick up speed. We will see what happens before the election. Because in that I do agree with you - if Trump somehow loses, it will be over.
 

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Apparently, the jury is going to be gored. Fixed.
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4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


Well, that is not true about nothing has been done. No one has been frog marched to Gitmo, but things have happened. 

People have been fired. That may seem like an "oh nooooos!" to you, but it not "nothing" to them. The top of the FBI and CIA has been replaced. The swamp has slowly started to drain.  A full scale investigation was launched over a year ago, and the person in charge is someone with the ability to read classified documents, impale a grand jury, and indict people.  Declassified documents have begun to drip out showing the American people what was/is going on.  The next few months should be an interesting ride.

Swamp creatures were never going to go quietly. They have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at President Trump, and he has not only survived, he's done some pretty decent presidentin' with 95% of the "msm," all the  Democrats, all the swamp creatures, and people tend to forget that in his first two years the House Republicans (led by Paul Ryan) were not exactly on Trump's side.

Will this lead to guilty pleas, trials, convictions, prison? No idea. But things are starting to pick up speed. We will see what happens before the election. Because in that I do agree with you - if Trump somehow loses, it will be over.
 

Very, very well said. All of this gets buried really deep if Trump loses.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


Well, that is not true about nothing has been done. No one has been frog marched to Gitmo, but things have happened. 

People have been fired. That may seem like an "oh nooooos!" to you, but it not "nothing" to them. The top of the FBI and CIA has been replaced. The swamp has slowly started to drain.  A full scale investigation was launched over a year ago, and the person in charge is someone with the ability to read classified documents, impale a grand jury, and indict people.  Declassified documents have begun to drip out showing the American people what was/is going on.  The next few months should be an interesting ride.

Swamp creatures were never going to go quietly. They have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at President Trump, and he has not only survived, he's done some pretty decent presidentin' with 95% of the "msm," all the  Democrats, all the swamp creatures, and people tend to forget that in his first two years the House Republicans (led by Paul Ryan) were not exactly on Trump's side.

Will this lead to guilty pleas, trials, convictions, prison? No idea. But things are starting to pick up speed. We will see what happens before the election. Because in that I do agree with you - if Trump somehow loses, it will be over.
 

Presidentin', I like it.

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For consideration, not endorsing... but he's not alone in saying this. Solomon is saying that within the next 3-4 weeks we're going to be learning more, Nunes said today in an interview that he thinks indictments are coming in the near future (paraphrased). The only thing I know for sure is there are more documents coming. If it's the Flynn 302, which is the rumor, that will open the door to the entire SCO team and its attorneys. 

 

One thing said today by Nunes that stood out: it was mentioned that none of the principle targets of Durham (the Strzok, Page, Baker, McCabes of the FBI/DOJ -- not to mention Comey, Clapper, Brennan) have been interviewed yet so indictments can't be that close. Nunes responded by (rightly imo) stating that the evidence is strong enough that they could get indictments without interviewing them. Interviewing them would be a "waste of time" since you know they wouldn't admit anything. The only way interviews would matter is if a perjury charge was the best you were hoping for. Better to drop the hammer and let them turn on one another. 

 

That made me smile :beer: 

 

 

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I will say this..........

 

More than half the country could care less if Obama (on down) is guilty of spying or not.

 

Big problem, because that same percentage wants Trump out of office, guilty or not.

 

If what I say is correct, you can almost guarantee that if there is another Republican President that the left cannot stand, the same stuff will surely happen again.

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Obamagate – How Obama administration apparently weaponized intel agencies for political attacks

by Fred Fleitz

 

Original Article

 

There is strong evidence that President Barack Obama’s administration improperly weaponized U.S. intelligence agencies in multiple and shocking ways against Donald Trump and other political enemies. It appears the Obama administration did this in a number of ways, including: fraudulently obtaining Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants to spy on American citizens; promoting the Democratic National Committee-funded dossier assembled by former British spy Christopher Steele that was filled with lies about Trump; politicizing intelligence analysis; leaking intelligence; and spying on political opponents and journalists. In the period when he was a presidential candidate and president-elect, Trump and his aides seemed to have been the major targets of this misuse of American intelligence

 

 

 

 

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Just now, B-Man said:

Obamagate – How Obama administration apparently weaponized intel agencies for political attacks

by Fred Fleitz

 

Original Article

 

There is strong evidence that President Barack Obama’s administration improperly weaponized U.S. intelligence agencies in multiple and shocking ways against Donald Trump and other political enemies. It appears the Obama administration did this in a number of ways, including: fraudulently obtaining Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants to spy on American citizens; promoting the Democratic National Committee-funded dossier assembled by former British spy Christopher Steele that was filled with lies about Trump; politicizing intelligence analysis; leaking intelligence; and spying on political opponents and journalists. In the period when he was a presidential candidate and president-elect, Trump and his aides seemed to have been the major targets of this misuse of American intelligence

 

 

 

 


Who doesn’t love opinion pieces from Fox

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BillSlime discounts all of the nefarious doings by Obama simply because Obama is a democrat. That shows that BillSlime ignores facts and loves opinions. I wonder if BillSlime has chosen his new screen name yet? 

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