Tiberius Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 Politically motivated investigations will get this clowns thrown in jail. Kamala Harris seems to have already started the ball rolling on that, trying to pin down the lying Attorney General about discussions of investigations he did not want to answer. How can an AG launch investigations when he himself won't answer questions for the House? He ignores subpoenas and lies under oath? What a joke this whole administration is. UnAmerican, anti-republican and unethical.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: Politically motivated investigations will get this clowns thrown in jail. Kamala Harris seems to have already started the ball rolling on that, trying to pin down the lying Attorney General about discussions of investigations he did not want to answer. How can an AG launch investigations when he himself won't answer questions for the House? He ignores subpoenas and lies under oath? What a joke this whole administration is. UnAmerican, anti-republican and unethical. So... after three years of promising Trump was going to be thrown in jail, you've now moved on to Barr is going to be put in jail? I love you, Tibs. But this is not your best work.
Tiberius Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: So... after three years of promising Trump was going to be thrown in jail, you've now moved on to Barr is going to be put in jail? I love you, Tibs. But this is not your best work. If they use the DOJ to go after Trump's enemies, sure they will. Kamala Harris might be our next AG. Think about that
DC Tom Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Politically motivated investigations will get this clowns thrown in jail. And there's the talking point... 1
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: And there's the talking point... Which, of course, is projection.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Yup, Rod Rosenstein was a Hillary appointee, right? ? He was confirmed 96-4 by the Senate. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/330538-senate-votes-to-confirm-rosenstein-as-deputy-attorney-general
3rdnlng Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 33 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: So... after three years of promising Trump was going to be thrown in jail, you've now moved on to Barr is going to be put in jail? I love you, Tibs. But this is not your best work. Tibs and "best" are incompatible. 35 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Politically motivated investigations will get this clowns thrown in jail. Kamala Harris seems to have already started the ball rolling on that, trying to pin down the lying Attorney General about discussions of investigations he did not want to answer. How can an AG launch investigations when he himself won't answer questions for the House? He ignores subpoenas and lies under oath? What a joke this whole administration is. UnAmerican, anti-republican and unethical. What subpoena did Barr ignore? 1
Koko78 Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: What subpoena did Barr ignore? The subpoena for the full, unredacted report, complete with all supporting information/transcripts. You know, the one that requires him to break the law. 3
row_33 Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 ignoring a subpoena is kind of a big deal pissing off the AG needlessly is also as well
3rdnlng Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: The subpoena for the full, unredacted report, complete with all supporting information/transcripts. You know, the one that requires him to break the law. No subpoena has been issued yet.
Koko78 Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: No subpoena has been issued yet. Nadler issued it a couple weeks ago. https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/politics/jerry-nadler-subpoena-mueller-report/index.html
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Koko78 said: The subpoena for the full, unredacted report, complete with all supporting information/transcripts. You know, the one that requires him to break the law. Oh, you would know! Doesn't a House subpoena have to be signed off by the AG? And if it isn't signed by the AG, it isn't actually a subpoena? (Serious questions) Edited May 3, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal
row_33 Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Oh, you would know! Doesn't a House subpoena have to be signed off by the AG? And if it isn't signed by the AG, it isn't actually a subpoena? (Serious questions) The powers of the President and his Cabinet and Appointments are very wide and sweeping if they are used in a very untoward manner, like Watergate, or personal swinishness like Clinton, then there are grounds to step in not a shred of grounds requiring stepping in here by oversight.... not a shred... 1
Koko78 Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Oh, you would know! Doesn't a House subpoena have to be signed off by the AG? And if it isn't signed by the AG, it isn't actually a subpoena? (Serious questions) Without searching the US Code or the House rules, I would way probably not. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress (Yes, it's wikipedia, I know...) Interesting article on the history of Congressional investigations/subpoena power. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=2ahUKEwjw5Y698P_hAhWHZd8KHev6DE4QFjAEegQIABAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theusconstitution.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F01%2FCongressional-Oversight-Issue-Brief.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2QmuKGbSyd7RdPNm8nWUb2 The Supreme Court has upheld contempt proceedings/punishments based upon the refusal to comply with Congressional subpoenas. The House itself has the power to impose punishments for contempt, without going through the Courts/DOJ. However, in Barr's case, compliance with the subpoena clearly requires him to violate federal law, so it is unlikely any contempt proceeding would be upheld by the Courts if the House itself tries to impose punishment. 1
row_33 Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Without searching the US Code or the House rules, I would way probably not. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress (Yes, it's wikipedia, I know...) Interesting article on the history of Congressional investigations/subpoena power. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=2ahUKEwjw5Y698P_hAhWHZd8KHev6DE4QFjAEegQIABAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theusconstitution.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F01%2FCongressional-Oversight-Issue-Brief.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2QmuKGbSyd7RdPNm8nWUb2 The Supreme Court has upheld contempt proceedings/punishments based upon the refusal to comply with Congressional subpoenas. The House itself has the power to impose punishments for contempt, without going through the Courts/DOJ. However, in Barr's case, compliance with the subpoena clearly requires him to violate federal law, so it is unlikely any contempt proceeding would be upheld by the Courts if the House itself tries to impose punishment. if he had to be there and was subbed, Barr would be there unless one is a lawyer, don't bother untangling this stuff if there is honestly anything to worry about, it will be carried out in earnest
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/03/william-barr-alexander-downer/ 1
Nanker Posted May 3, 2019 Author Posted May 3, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 2:46 PM, LABillzFan said: It's like the Dems are BEGGING for Trump to get re-elected. This is really something... they're trying a bit too hard to get it going, now aren't they. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 3, 2019 Posted May 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Nanker said: This is really something... they're trying a bit too hard to get it going, now aren't they. I think panic has set in. They realize they do not know how to (cannot) stop what is coming and they hope to discredit the messenger? Maybe hide things in the noise? The next few months are going to be ugly. 3 1
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