LSHMEAB Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 But one thing always jumps out. There are MANY posters here who've lived a different life than I've lived and have a different, yet valid opinion. But please do not ask me to believe that the Don, is EVER, telling me, or you the TRUTH. In my heart of heart's, I find the guy fascinating. I really do. He IS hilarious. Got charisma from god know's where TO god know's where. But honest? That is not his thing, so PLEASE put that somewhere else cause you sound loopy. 3
/dev/null Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Such an amazing meme There have been times, I couldn't tell you how many, where I have suffered thru meetings at work wishing that I could just respond with this clip 2
Doc Brown Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 5 hours ago, /dev/null said: Such an amazing meme There have been times, I couldn't tell you how many, where I have suffered thru meetings at work wishing that I could just respond with this clip Downey's one of the best SNL writers ever as well.
Foxx Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 https://twitter.com/ChuckGrassley/status/1228836594108502022 1 1
snafu Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 I don’t know exactly why, but it always cracks me up when Grassley gets pissed off.
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, snafu said: I don’t know exactly why, but it always cracks me up when Grassley gets pissed off. Cause he's a frail, 1000 year old old-school Senator with a voice that sounds like weak rusty nails. (Makes me laugh, too) Edited February 16, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 1 1
Foxx Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 i wish we didn't have to wait till 2021 for Grassley to take over the majority Senate Judiciary Committee seat.
Bob in Mich Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 These accusations of uneven justice are a bit rich, especially coming now. Without arguing the charges and sentencing again, I doubt any of us here would have the AG intervening on our behalf in our cases regardless of any injustices. Also, Durham is still investigating some of these folks, right? If chargeable misdeeds are uncovered I hope those deserving are charged. The investigations need to be even handed though. Another possible reason these deep state bad guys don't get thrown in jail after investigation is that the accusations were overblown initially. FoxNews, like the other MSM networks, operates to make money. Just like those other networks, FoxNews chooses its programming to keep Trump supporters coming back nightly. Perhaps, constantly beating the drum that everyone has conspired in a years long coup attempt was hyping up the facts? As an example, nuggets of suspicious texts from Page/Strzok were extrapolated into a massive conspiracy to overthrow the President. After IG investigating, bias was found but not in their work, right? The nugget was factual but the extrapolation was not. That seems to be a bit of a pattern and so we see repeated disappointment here in bringing the supposed deep state plotters to justice.
3rdnlng Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: These accusations of uneven justice are a bit rich, especially coming now. Without arguing the charges and sentencing again, I doubt any of us here would have the AG intervening on our behalf in our cases regardless of any injustices. Also, Durham is still investigating some of these folks, right? If chargeable misdeeds are uncovered I hope those deserving are charged. The investigations need to be even handed though. Another possible reason these deep state bad guys don't get thrown in jail after investigation is that the accusations were overblown initially. FoxNews, like the other MSM networks, operates to make money. Just like those other networks, FoxNews chooses its programming to keep Trump supporters coming back nightly. Perhaps, constantly beating the drum that everyone has conspired in a years long coup attempt was hyping up the facts? As an example, nuggets of suspicious texts from Page/Strzok were extrapolated into a massive conspiracy to overthrow the President. After IG investigating, bias was found but not in their work, right? The nugget was factual but the extrapolation was not. That seems to be a bit of a pattern and so we see repeated disappointment here in bringing the supposed deep state plotters to justice. You are discounting the time and effort here in PPP that has been given to what's been going on over the last few years. You surmise that those of us that are on the conservative side only get their information from Fox News. In doing so you have actually let it slip that your information comes to you in such a narrow manner. You call for investigations to be even handed but we call for them to be not only even handed but just. So far only anyone even slightly connected to Trump have been prosecuted (with the exception of James Wolfe who got 2 months for doing more than what Roger Stone did) while the big time liars and soft coup perpetrators have so far been untouched. Your broom has come to be good buddies with the underside of a rug. 3
B-Man Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 As the full weight of modern American justice comes to bear for the coup against our President and our Nation, people are.... losing their jobs and being reassigned.... oh, the humanity. 1
3rdnlng Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, B-Man said: As the full weight of modern American justice comes to bear for the coup against our President and our Nation, people are.... losing their jobs and being reassigned.... oh, the humanity.
Bob in Mich Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You are discounting the time and effort here in PPP that has been given to what's been going on over the last few years. You surmise that those of us that are on the conservative side only get their information from Fox News. In doing so you have actually let it slip that your information comes to you in such a narrow manner. You call for investigations to be even handed but we call for them to be not only even handed but just. So far only anyone even slightly connected to Trump have been prosecuted (with the exception of James Wolfe who got 2 months for doing more than what Roger Stone did) while the big time liars and soft coup perpetrators have so far been untouched. Your broom has come to be good buddies with the underside of a rug. Note: 'even handed' and 'just' are synonyms so I don't understand your point there. After saying that I want those found guilty of wrongdoing by Durham to be prosecuted, what actually am I trying to sweep under the rug? Ok, say you get your nuggets and extrapolation here from DR and B-Man rather than FoxNews. It is the same thing. The nugget may be irrefutable but the story built around the nugget, after investigation, seems to be less devastating than was implied. So, after the investigations what can we conclude when the supposed coup plotters are not charged with plotting? Well, I suggest that the extrapolation involved all sorts of suspicion of evil that upon investigation, was not found to be as bad as implied - by DR or FoxNews or Trump. Thus the charges against the accused don't amount to much. Grassley and you are implying that not only were those originally accused still guilty of massive wrongdoing but now, post investigation, those investigating in Barr's Justice Department today are still in on the coup attempt.
3rdnlng Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said: Note: 'even handed' and 'just' are synonyms so I don't understand your point there. After saying that I want those found guilty of wrongdoing by Durham to be prosecuted, what actually am I trying to sweep under the rug? Ok, say you get your nuggets and extrapolation here from DR and B-Man rather than FoxNews. It is the same thing. The nugget may be irrefutable but the story built around the nugget, after investigation, seems to be less devastating than was implied. So, after the investigations what can we conclude when the supposed coup plotters are not charged with plotting? Well, I suggest that the extrapolation involved all sorts of suspicion of evil that upon investigation, was not found to be as bad as implied - by DR or FoxNews or Trump. Thus the charges against the accused don't amount to much. Grassley and you are implying that not only were those originally accused still guilty of massive wrongdoing but now, post investigation, those investigating in Barr's Justice Department today are still in on the coup attempt. You wanted even handed investigations and I want not only even handed investigations but just outcomes. The government is still rife with lifers who have their own agenda. Before leaving office Obama quadrupled the amount of NSA staffers. Does that not cause reason to be concerned?
Bob in Mich Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You wanted even handed investigations and I want not only even handed investigations but just outcomes. The government is still rife with lifers who have their own agenda. Before leaving office Obama quadrupled the amount of NSA staffers. Does that not cause reason to be concerned? Barr has shown no reluctance in jumping into ongoing cases, right? He has just done that with two cases, right? Why would he not jump in on the McCabe decision, for example, if it was just a bad investigation/conclusion done by deep staters covering for their co-conspirators?
3rdnlng Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Barr has shown no reluctance in jumping into ongoing cases, right? He has just done that with two cases, right? Why would he not jump in on the McCabe decision, for example, if it was just a bad investigation/conclusion done by deep staters covering for their co-conspirators? Barr isn't going after him for process crimes. He's got more serious crap on him through Durham.
Bob in Mich Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Barr isn't going after him for process crimes. He's got more serious crap on him through Durham. Pulease! Barr re-examining cases for Trump's guys is pretty strong indication that Barr is acting upon Trump's wishes. Does Trump wish to charge McCabe? Of course, and Trump would not say to Barr, 'Ah, might as well let a guilty McCabe stay out of jail until later', would he? Mr Vindictive? The only reason Barr didn't overrule the McCabe decision was that he could find no way to legally justify doing that. As much as he wants to please the boss, so far anyway, he still seems to care a smidge about appearances. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Pulease! Barr re-examining cases for Trump's guys is pretty strong indication that Barr is acting upon Trump's wishes. Does Trump wish to charge McCabe? Of course, and Trump would not say to Barr, 'Ah, might as well let a guilty McCabe stay out of jail until later', would he? Mr Vindictive? The only reason Barr didn't overrule the McCabe decision was that he could find no way to legally justify doing that. As much as he wants to please the boss, so far anyway, he still seems to care a smidge about appearances. ...and that would be a bad thing?....isn't that his job?.........
Numark3 Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You wanted even handed investigations and I want not only even handed investigations but just outcomes. The government is still rife with lifers who have their own agenda. Before leaving office Obama quadrupled the amount of NSA staffers. Does that not cause reason to be concerned? Want outcomes to this? Have fun waiting lololol Edited February 16, 2020 by Crayola64
Bob in Mich Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...and that would be a bad thing?....isn't that his job?......... I suspect the vast majority of cases are delegated to lower Justice Dept personnel and are closed without the AG's input. Barr's personal review of Flynn, Stone, and now McCabe decisions are because Trump did not like the way the courts and/or Justice were deciding the issue. Trump is directing the Justice Dept to attempt to reward his cronies and to punish his perceived enemies. That slope is slippery and treacherous.
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