Operation Boomerang AG Barr's Investigation of Acts of Treason by Federal Employees

[Hedge]

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

  

 

 

 

Offense DEFINITELY has the ball: 

 

1. Liu was picked to help clean up the DC office -- but wound up helping/arming Mueller's leftovers instead. 

2. Liu was lured away from that job with a job at Treasury

3. Liue quits her job to prepare for her confirmation hearing

4. Barr appoints O'Shea to take his place

5. Trump withdraws her nomination -- Liu problem solved. 

6. As soon as O'Shea is installed, the Mueller holdovers quit and the Stone sentencing blows up. 

7. Barr and Trump just nuked the DC office, the one that Brennan, Comey, and others were using against the administration --

... and the very same office Barr would need control of to successfully prosecute Brennan, Comey and more... 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

  

 

 

 

Offense DEFINITELY has the ball: 

 

1. Liu was picked to help clean up the DC office -- but wound up helping/arming Mueller's leftovers instead. 

2. Liu was lured away from that job with a job at Treasury

3. Liue quits her job to prepare for her confirmation hearing

4. Barr appoints O'Shea to take his place

5. Trump withdraws her nomination -- Liu problem solved. 

6. As soon as O'Shea is installed, the Mueller holdovers quit and the Stone sentencing blows up. 

7. Barr and Trump just nuked the DC office, the one that Brennan, Comey, and others were using against the administration --

... and the very same office Barr would need control of to successfully prosecute Brennan, Comey and more... 

 

 

There were a lot of people questioning why she was up for that undersecretary post (myself included). Looks like Trump pulled a fast one. ? 

[B-Man]

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Bob in Mich]

I guess Barr would have to recuse himself when the Justice Dept eventually investigates him, wouldn't he?  This Stone situation looks bad for Justice and justice both.

 

Anyone here remember in 2016 when Bill Clinton talked to Loretta Lynch on the infamous tarmac and there was great suspicion that he was trying to influence the Justice Dept in investigating Hillary?  Remember how attempts to pressure an investigation were thought to be improper back then?  Times sure have changed.  Now interfering with the Justice Dept is cheered.  

 

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said:

I guess Barr would have to recuse himself when the Justice Dept eventually investigates him, wouldn't he?  This Stone situation looks bad for Justice and justice both.

 

Anyone here remember in 2016 when Bill Clinton talked to Loretta Lynch on the infamous tarmac and there was great suspicion that he was trying to influence the Justice Dept in investigating Hillary?  Remember how attempts to pressure an investigation were thought to be improper back then?  Times sure have changed.  Now interfering with the Justice Dept is cheered.  

 

Hasn’t paid attention to these details for three years, knows nothing about this subject and proves it daily. 
 

Gets a round of MSM talking points from the people freaking out about justice — and then comes down here to spout off, pretending to have original thoughts on this matter ....

 

... The Bob way. 

[njbuff]

9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Hasn’t paid attention to these details for three years, knows nothing about this subject and proves it daily. 
 

Gets a round of MSM talking points from the people freaking out about justice — and then comes down here to spout off, pretending to have original thoughts on this matter ....

 

... The Bob way. 

The left and their contempt for Barr is downright laughable.

 

They are so scared that he might find wrongdoings against their beloved folks on the left.

[Deranged Rhino]

10 minutes ago, njbuff said:

The left and their contempt for Barr is downright laughable.

 

They are so scared that he might find wrongdoings against their beloved folks on the left.

 

Sure are. 

 

It's fear mixed with weaponized ignorance. Bob still believes Russia/Trump was real -- "they just didn't find enough evidence to convict him". That's what they programmed him to think and believe, despite the absence of evidence and facts to support that position (and despite the fact that in order to believe that position in the first place requires a complete inversion of the entire system of justice in this country).

 

Bob uses the tarmac as an apples to apples comparison, as an example, when it's anything but apples to apples. It's a poor comparison which demonstrates how little he understands about what is happening now and what happened then. He has no one but himself to blame for his continued ignorance though. No one. 

[Bob in Mich]

4 minutes ago, njbuff said:

The left and their contempt for Barr is downright laughable.

 

They are so scared that he might find wrongdoings against their beloved folks on the left.

Well I surely can't speak for 'The Left', but as an Independent and since I am left leaning most of the time these days, let me say that I have no problem finding wrongdoing of Left leaning politicians.  If not trying to weaponize the Justice Dept, certainly investigate wrongdoing by Dems, Repubs, Independents, and all other political and apolitical Americans - All Americans.  He needs to be careful, imo, to not allow Trump to steamroll the Justice Dept.

 

Remember when Trump, about every week or two, would lament that his AG is not protecting him....no Roy Cohn?  We don't hear that anymore because he now does have his protector in place - Bill Barr.  My contempt for Barr rises from his apparent willingness to take direction from the WH.  His slanted summary of the Mueller report was the first clue.  This Stone situation is just further proof.  When Trump orders Barr to open investigations on Bernie or Pete, y'all still think he will just be sniffing around for corruption?

[Deranged Rhino]

3 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

Well I surely can't speak for 'The Left', but as an Independent and since I am left leaning most of the time these days, let me say that I have no problem finding wrongdoing of Left leaning politicians.  If not trying to weaponize the Justice Dept, certainly investigate wrongdoing by Dems, Repubs, Independents, and all other political and apolitical Americans - All Americans.  He needs to be careful, imo, to not allow Trump to steamroll the Justice Dept.

 

Remember when Trump, about every week or two, would lament that his AG is not protecting him....no Roy Cohn?  We don't hear that anymore because he now does have his protector in place - Bill Barr.  My contempt for Barr rises from his apparent willingness to take direction from the WH.  His slanted summary of the Mueller report was the first clue.  This Stone situation is just further proof.  When Trump orders Barr to open investigations on Bernie or Pete, y'all still think he will just be sniffing around for corruption?

 

Liar. 

 

Your contempt for Barr stems from the media telling you to find him contemptible. You are not pushing your own original thought. And it shows in the examples you've chosen and the lies you've written above. 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Video/Article: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/devin-nunes-examples-of-what-the-mueller-team-was-really-doing-will-emerge-in-coming-weeks

 

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[Deranged Rhino]

 

These people were crooks posing as cops and lawyers, not virtuous defenders of the country -- unless you're plugged into the MSM drip feed. 

[Tiberius]

41 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Liar. 

 

Your contempt for Barr stems from the media telling you to find him contemptible. You are not pushing your own original thought. And it shows in the examples you've chosen and the lies you've written above. 

You calling someone a liar. Ha 

Trump needs to go. He is a corrupt, power abusing POS 

[GG]

46 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

Well I surely can't speak for 'The Left', but as an Independent and since I am left leaning most of the time these days, let me say that I have no problem finding wrongdoing of Left leaning politicians.  If not trying to weaponize the Justice Dept, certainly investigate wrongdoing by Dems, Repubs, Independents, and all other political and apolitical Americans - All Americans.  He needs to be careful, imo, to not allow Trump to steamroll the Justice Dept.

 

Remember when Trump, about every week or two, would lament that his AG is not protecting him....no Roy Cohn?  We don't hear that anymore because he now does have his protector in place - Bill Barr.  My contempt for Barr rises from his apparent willingness to take direction from the WH.  His slanted summary of the Mueller report was the first clue.  This Stone situation is just further proof.  When Trump orders Barr to open investigations on Bernie or Pete, y'all still think he will just be sniffing around for corruption?

 

If you know the details of the case, was the sentencing recommendation of 8-9 years appropriate for the crime?

[Bob in Mich]

35 minutes ago, GG said:

 

If you know the details of the case, was the sentencing recommendation of 8-9 years appropriate for the crime?

I knew he got convicted by a jury of lying to Congress and interfering/threatening a witness.  I won't pretend that I know what he should have gotten as far as a sentence.  I don't think the 7-9 years were the max sentences though, were they?

 

I will say though, I think the handling of this case should all flow through normal judiciary channels  - prosecutor, jury trial, and judicial sentencing - and should be free from Trump interference.  It looks pretty certain that Trump is interfering to protect his friends.  So, in addition to pardon power, he now seems to direct investigations and to dictate sentencing guidelines too.  Any of that troubling yet?

[Deranged Rhino]

3 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

I knew he got convicted by a jury of lying to Congress and interfering/threatening a witness.  I won't pretend that I know what he should have gotten as far as a sentence.  I don't think the 7-9 years were the max sentences though, were they?

 

I will say though, I think the handling of this case should all flow through normal judiciary channels  - prosecutor, jury trial, and judicial sentencing - and should be free from Trump interference.  It looks pretty certain that Trump is interfering to protect his friends.  So, in addition to pardon power, he now seems to direct investigations and to dictate sentencing guidelines too.  Any of that troubling yet?

 

... It is free from Trump interference. The judge decides the sentence, not the DOJ. The DOJ made a recommendation. 

 

(Once again, Bob doesn't know the facts, or the details, but has an opinion. Not an original opinion, just one he lifted from MSM talking points. Being stupid and stoned is no way to go through a disinformation war.)

[Deranged Rhino]

FEAR

 

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[Rob's House]

3 hours ago, Bob in Mich said:

I guess Barr would have to recuse himself when the Justice Dept eventually investigates him, wouldn't he?  This Stone situation looks bad for Justice and justice both.

 

Anyone here remember in 2016 when Bill Clinton talked to Loretta Lynch on the infamous tarmac and there was great suspicion that he was trying to influence the Justice Dept in investigating Hillary?  Remember how attempts to pressure an investigation were thought to be improper back then?  Times sure have changed.  Now interfering with the Justice Dept is cheered.  

 

 

You're actually making the point you're arguing against. The Lynch/Clinton meeting on the tarmac was the nail in the coffin of any argument that the DOJ "investigation" was anything other than a coordinated effort to subvert SOP to shield the former Secretary of State and then Presidential candidate from very serious charges of which she was clearly guilty.

 

This current situation is the reigning in of an illegal attempt by the US Attorney's Office to subvert SOP and the law to drastically increase the sentence of a civilian who they have already selectively prosecuted, based on political association, for a relatively minor offense. This is not disputable. All the while they've declined to prosecute several Democrat affiliated government officials for similar and significantly more egregious offenses, with no rational explanation for the disparate treatment.

 

The real kicker is that when the Democrat run DOJ intervened on behalf of Hillary without any legitimate legal or moral justification, and in regard to far more serious and consequential matters related to the official duties as a high ranking member of the sitting administration, you and yours did not give one single, solitary fu¢k.

 

There were no calls for recusals, investigations, prosecutions, or impeachments. No hand wringing over the dereliction of the "rule of law." In fact, any such suggestions were openly mocked. You defended and continue to defend the actions of all who were involved.

 

But now that it's politically convenient you claim to have suddenly developed a rigid set of principles that previously eluded you.

 

Now you feign deep concerns and strong principled opposition to DOJ having any involvement in any case even tangentially connected to the administration, even if it is merely correcting a corrupt and unconscionable process that sought to further persecute a 67 year old civilian who did nothing of consequence and has already received significantly harsher treatment than would any other similarly situated individual.

 

Your positions are irreconcilable, thus your selective piety is unconvincing. Your only guiding principle is unconditional and unwavering support of Democrats and everything they do.

Edited February 12, 2020 by Rob's House