HOUSE Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) A WR that can't catch might have trouble finding work. Kind of like a singer that can't sing . Edited April 11, 2019 by HOUSE
Augie Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 5 hours ago, cd1 said: Kelvin might not even be in shape to work out for a team... He never seems to motivated. It looks like he was highly motivated......... in the buffet line!
NoSaint Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 7 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: It appears we may have seen the last of the Kelvinator. He remains unsigned, and it's hard to envision a team finding a role for a slow, lazy ex-star with suddenly brick-like hands. At one point, he was referred to as the top WR in this free agency class. It's one of the more sudden non-injury-related falls from grace I've seen for a first-round pick in recent years, especially one who was a borderline household name at one point. He was the 5th WR in his draft class, hasn’t had 1000 yards since his rookie year and baaaarely did that. In his last 3 years he had 1000 yards total combined and 3 teams. when was he a star of near household name recognition? He’s always been on the outside looking in when it comes to the top talent and a country mile from elite even at his peak. 7 hours ago, Steve Billieve said: I'm sure if I look back you'll be on record with that opinion at the time. Im pretty sure like 6 posters see nfc south football with any regularity and we were all nervous but hopeful
The Bills Blog Posted April 11, 2019 Author Posted April 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: He was the 5th WR in his draft class, hasn’t had 1000 yards since his rookie year and baaaarely did that. In his last 3 years he had 1000 yards total combined and 3 teams. when was he a star of near household name recognition? He’s always been on the outside looking in when it comes to the top talent and a country mile from elite even at his peak. Just from personal experience, after he started so well in Carolina, he had very good name recognition among casual fans and I think most people saw him as a young star, rising above others in his class (including Watkins). I know a lot of fans were saying we should've traded down and gotten Benjamin instead of trading up for Sammy.
NoSaint Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Just from personal experience, after he started so well in Carolina, he had very good name recognition among casual fans and I think most people saw him as a young star, rising above others in his class (including Watkins). I know a lot of fans were saying we should've traded down and gotten Benjamin instead of trading up for Sammy. I think you are overestimating his impact in the league because our fan base was overinvested in the results of WRs in that draft class. I also suspect that you are using casual fans online that are actually among the most invested fans even at the more casual tier of online posters. I think that the “watch most but not all games” type of casual fan of the browns, chargers or cardinals barely if at all had him on their radar. Edited April 11, 2019 by NoSaint
Irv Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 Benji should be power slammed through a burning table for lack of effort. Sucks.
RocCityRoller Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 8 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: No. He'll catch on somewhere, but the hope of ever seeing a big money contract is history. He'll be relegated to 1 year "prove it" deals until his career ends. We already saw he doesn't catch anything, so did KC
RocCityRoller Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 7 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Feel free. I never liked Benjamin, even in college. He looked like a fat woman. like Whoopie Goldberg's uglier fatter cousin
Augie Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 Does the annual hot dog eating contest pay anything? He might have a second career there to supplement his retirement. 1
GreggTX Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 He's not finished if this experience lights a fire under hit butt.
billsfan89 Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 Unless he suddenly becomes motivated and gets in shape he is done. Yes some team might give him a camp invite but he won't ever be an effective player unless he changes his approach and attitude. 1
Stank_Nasty Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 The poor guy is never going to be able to hold a job without Zay following him out of the huddle and physically putting him where he needs to lineup. .... what a bum. 1
Augie Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: The poor guy is never going to be able to hold a job without Zay following him out of the huddle and physically putting him where he needs to lineup. .... what a bum. ... and handing him a donut.
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Thunderstruck said: Should make the move to TE, honestly He isn't going to cut it at WR anymore If he does go TE you can call him Croom Jr.
CIrvine Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 He will probably be on the NFL network next season as a Draft Expert. 2
Thurman#1 Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Unfortunately another Beane "gem" in the pro personnel department. Hopefully this UFA class breaks the curse of Beane's awful pro personnel results............just ONE reliable every down player from the pro side would be a first in his short tenure. You can keep saying it. It seems obvious you feel compelled to do so, even if it means hijacking a thread as you attempted to do here. Doesn't make it true, though. In fact, it's not. Beane's results are mixed, and really pretty decent for how little money he was able to spend. They signed Jordan Phillips, he's worked out well. They signed Derek Anderson, he worked out well and cheap. Yarbrough, he's worked out well and cheap. They re-signed Kyle Williams, he worked out well. They signed Lotulelei, he's been expensive and worked out well. He hasn't lived up to some expectations ... there's been outrage, screams from thousands of would-be GMs living in thousands of mom's basements all over America, but he's done what McD wanted, and been part of a cheap #1 ranked defense. Bodine was cheap and without him Groy would have made the O-line look considerably worse than they finally did. Bush was super-cheap and solid. Isaiah McKenzie was a terrific pickup for $555 K for the year. He traded for EJ Gaines who's far outperformed his salary. He traded for Jordan Matthews who unluckily got injured but has been on rosters since and performed decently. Philly took him right back when they had the chance. He's been signed by SF for next year for a bit more than the Bills paid for him for his injured year. Yes, there have been some bad ones too. No question, Benjamin didn't work out in any sense. But plenty of deals that are solid for the money or even just plain solid. So your contention here is just nonsense. He's had mixed prop personnel results, but plenty of decent moves. The problem is that he had very little money to spend and picking up a lot of vet min guys is not going to produce a ton of excellent starters. That's what most of Beane's moves have been up till this offseason, due to cap problems. For how much they paid, there were plenty of guys who were solid pickups. Guess I'll copy this so I don't have to look it up yet again next time. It's clear you're going to keep re-cycling this nonsense no matter how many times it doesn't fly. And no matter how many threads you have to attempt to hijack. Edited April 11, 2019 by Thurman#1 3 1
Thurman#1 Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 13 hours ago, HardyBoy said: I think his knee issues are impacting his game much more than being lazy. Watch how he breaks out of curl routes, he has to take 4 or 5 real tentative steps consistently to turn around with a super wide base. Looks like a washed beer league player, and no way that's an effort thing, not entirely at least, he has no explosion in his legs left. It's actually really sad and unfortunate, and hopefully he can keep out of the same mind traps that ended up overtaking Hardy. It seems that way to me, though there also seems to be a lack of effort. But he definitely isn't running routes the way he did early in his career. It's a shame.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 ...apparently he doesn't think "it's over"......read a classic post somewhere that said, "he is a knife, fork and spoon away from a decent NFL career"...... "It's just a bad season," Benjamin said. "It is what it is. Just football, man. You have good seasons, you have bad seasons. I've had successful seasons in this league. I'll have plenty more. For some reason, it's just not the year."
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