Boca BIlls Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 The Patriots will stop winning everything when they stop winning.
thenorthremembers Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: The Patriots will stop winning everything when they stop winning. Around the time Brady retires.
PromoTheRobot Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Bills2ref said: In what crazy world are you a free agency winner when you let your LT and Edge walk? Even if they were overpaid, New England got worse by letting them walk. What a homer article. New England Spa journalism.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 In related news... The Patriots have just been awarded a 2019 1st round compensation pick 2
Captain Hindsight Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 11 hours ago, RyanC883 said: so true! that Pats*** miss out on FA, and it's really some part of a "master plan" by Bellicheck. Yup. Missed keeping Trent Brown, Trey Flowers and lots Beasley and Humphries. Genius!
thebandit27 Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Isiah Wynn will be an upgrade at LT if anything like healthy. Trent Brown had 3 great games in the playoffs but he was bang average in the regular season. Flowers I think they will miss more - but this is a really good class for edge rushers and they may well be in a position to find a guy who can have an impact early. Equally as mentioned above they have Derick Rivers in the system already. That is why the Patriots can let guys walk and not miss a beat. They generally have some solutions in house already. I do think pass rush is a need for them though. Flowers has been their only consistent pressure guy over the last three seasons. I'd worry more about their defensive interior if I were a Pats****** fan. I think they're down to Lawrence Guy and a bunch of bottom-of-the-roster dudes at DT after losing Brown and letting Shelton walk. But again, that plays into the strength of the 2019 draft class. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see them move up for a Dexter Lawrence or Jeffrey Simmons type in round 1. And don't count them out of making a trade for a guy like Grady Jarrett either.
poblano Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 58 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I'd worry more about their defensive interior if I were a Pats****** fan. I think they're down to Lawrence Guy and a bunch of bottom-of-the-roster dudes at DT after losing Brown and letting Shelton walk. But again, that plays into the strength of the 2019 draft class. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see them move up for a Dexter Lawrence or Jeffrey Simmons type in round 1. And don't count them out of making a trade for a guy like Grady Jarrett either. They already traded for Michael Bennett, and their run defense is usually will with "no names" players, the QB pressure is a constant problem that they solve in imaginative ways during season
thebandit27 Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, poblano said: They already traded for Michael Bennett, and their run defense is usually will with "no names" players, the QB pressure is a constant problem that they solve in imaginative ways during season Bennett is fine for an interior option on passing downs, but make no mistake: they're going to miss Malcom Brown and Danny Shelton's snap counts from 2018. They played 43% and 31% of their defensive snaps, respectively. Adam Butler showed flashes, but again, not as much a run defender.
poblano Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Bennett is fine for an interior option on passing downs, but make no mistake: they're going to miss Malcom Brown and Danny Shelton's snap counts from 2018. They played 43% and 31% of their defensive snaps, respectively. Adam Butler showed flashes, but again, not as much a run defender. Yes, but again their run defense always seems to work with plug and play players.
thebandit27 Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, poblano said: Yes, but again their run defense always seems to work with plug and play players. They ranked tied for 27th in the NFL last year with 4.9 yards/carry allowed. Actually only 2 teams had a worse run defense on a YPC basis: KC & LAR.
Chris66 Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Bennett is fine for an interior option on passing downs, but make no mistake: they're going to miss Malcom Brown and Danny Shelton's snap counts from 2018. They played 43% and 31% of their defensive snaps, respectively. Adam Butler showed flashes, but again, not as much a run defender. Brow and shelton both sucked last year. Lawrence Guy was the only good interior lineman. Butler was getting better as the year progressed Edited March 18, 2019 by Chris66
poblano Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: They ranked tied for 27th in the NFL last year with 4.9 yards/carry allowed. Actually only 2 teams had a worse run defense on a YPC basis: KC & LAR. But you said they will miss the players that take them to those stats
thebandit27 Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Chris66 said: Brow and shelton both sucked last year. Lawrence Guy was the only good interior lineman. Butler was getting better as the year progressed 1 minute ago, poblano said: But you said they will miss the players that take them to those stats Yes, I said that they'll miss the snaps that those guys contributed. Brown played over 40% of the team's defensive snaps, and Shelton played 30%. Now, they brought in Pennel, who can probably take Shelton's snaps, but we aren't talking about a world-beater there...and Butler showed some ability to rush the passer, but his run D was an abomination for the most part. 1
Magox Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Yes, I said that they'll miss the snaps that those guys contributed. Brown played over 40% of the team's defensive snaps, and Shelton played 30%. Now, they brought in Pennel, who can probably take Shelton's snaps, but we aren't talking about a world-beater there...and Butler showed some ability to rush the passer, but his run D was an abomination for the most part. My guess is that they will struggle early on and at some point around mid to late season they will find something that works. That has been their M.O over the past few years.
iinii Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Magox said: My guess is that they will struggle early on and at some point around mid to late season they will find something that works. That has been their M.O over the past few years. The more things change the more they stay the same
thebandit27 Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Magox said: My guess is that they will struggle early on and at some point around mid to late season they will find something that works. That has been their M.O over the past few years. I'm sure that there will be some measure of that. The way to beat them is to stay ahead of their adjustments...you almost need to have one person on your staff that dedicates his entire career to Patriots-based QC.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 On 3/15/2019 at 12:08 PM, MAJBobby said: One of the Better replies So that’s what they meant by “released”
GG Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 Can officially put this one to bed - signed with Falcons
Doc Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, GG said: Can officially put this one to bed - signed with Falcons That's it! I'm done with this team.
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