Zerovoltz Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 My thoughts on this draft. 1. This a ONE QB draft. Kyler Murray is it. (it could be 2 IF Grier ends up in a good spot) I love Murray and I like Grier. The rest of the QB's in this class are garbage. Grier would need to land in a place like Cincinnatti where he'd have a chance to supplant the starter in order for this to become a two QB class. Unfortunately for Grier, I get the impression that a team like Indy or Carolina would take him and he'll ride the bench behind a well established starter. 2. This draft has a TON of DL blue chip prospects at the top. 3. Combine the idea here that it's a one QB draft, and that the blue chips will be available into the 20's and that means your going to have a draft with little or no trading at the top. With no QB to go up for, none of the teams like Washington or Miami will be inclined to pay a price to move up for the 2nd QB in this draft who is probably every bit as good (or bad as the case may be) as the 8th QB. Also, if you can get a Blue chip defender at 20, why trade up to 8, 9 etc? The market conditions aren't going to be there for teams to want to pay to move up. 4. This all means the Bills and others up at the top will be staying put and making a selection. And so, with the 9th pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select TJ Hockensen, TE, Iowa. My thought here is the Bills believe in their defense and their scheme. By getting involved in an attempt to trade for Antonio Brown, the front office has shown they are all in on getting Josh Allen weaponry. The Bills do not have a weapon at TE on their roster. Hockensen would start from day 1 and make an immedeate impact. 5. The Giants won't take a QB in round 1. The Broncos won't take a QB in round 1. The Dolphins won't take a QB in round 1. The Redskins won't take a QB in round 1 (because I think they will be trading their pick to Arizona for Rosen) In fact, after Murray, the other QB's are going to slide down the board....again, based on my assesment that these QB's suck, coupled with the blue chippers into the 20's...no reason to draft a flawed QB high when you can get the same flawed guy in round 4. I wouldn't be entirely surprised at all if only Murray goes in round 1. 6. Round 2 will see several WR that will prove to be good value selections. Yes, I know you all don't care for the Chiefs fans perspective, but this is high quality analysis and I provide it for free. 3 4
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Can’t wait until the 25th so this all ends.. 4 1 2 1 5
billsbackto81 Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I really don't know how I'd respond if Hockenson was the Bills pick at 9. He good, but is he #9 good? Mixed emotions for sure. Kinda like watching your mother in law back off a cliff in your brand new Mercedes Benz. 6 1
Zerovoltz Posted April 8, 2019 Author Posted April 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, NewEra said: Grier lol Yes, Grier. 3 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: I really don't know how I'd respond if Hockenson was the Bills pick at 9. He good, but is he #9 good? Mixed emotions for sure. Kinda like watching your mother in law back off a cliff in your brand new Mercedes Benz. I can certainly understand this view.....Having Kyle Williams retire means there is a spot and need for someone like Ed Oliver...and that would certainly make a ton of sense. I went with Hockenson because I think your coaching staff knows their D is solid...they need to get Allen all the support they can...because the coach and GM's jobs depend on Allen failing or succeeding....not if the D is ranked 5th or 15th. Given that everyones future success or failure is riding on Allens arm....I figure the choice is Hockensen. 2
Shaw66 Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Thanks. That's interesting analysis. Bill's will take BPA, whatever position he plays. 1
mannc Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 30 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: My thoughts on this draft. 1. This a ONE QB draft. Kyler Murray is it. (it could be 2 IF Grier ends up in a good spot) I love Murray and I like Grier. The rest of the QB's in this class are garbage. Grier would need to land in a place like Cincinnatti where he'd have a chance to supplant the starter in order for this to become a two QB class. Unfortunately for Grier, I get the impression that a team like Indy or Carolina would take him and he'll ride the bench behind a well established starter. 2. This draft has a TON of DL blue chip prospects at the top. 3. Combine the idea here that it's a one QB draft, and that the blue chips will be available into the 20's and that means your going to have a draft with little or no trading at the top. With no QB to go up for, none of the teams like Washington or Miami will be inclined to pay a price to move up for the 2nd QB in this draft who is probably every bit as good (or bad as the case may be) as the 8th QB. Also, if you can get a Blue chip defender at 20, why trade up to 8, 9 etc? The market conditions aren't going to be there for teams to want to pay to move up. 4. This all means the Bills and others up at the top will be staying put and making a selection. And so, with the 9th pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select TJ Hockensen, TE, Iowa. My thought here is the Bills believe in their defense and their scheme. By getting involved in an attempt to trade for Antonio Brown, the front office has shown they are all in on getting Josh Allen weaponry. The Bills do not have a weapon at TE on their roster. Hockensen would start from day 1 and make an immedeate impact. 5. The Giants won't take a QB in round 1. The Broncos won't take a QB in round 1. The Dolphins won't take a QB in round 1. The Redskins won't take a QB in round 1 (because I think they will be trading their pick to Arizona for Rosen) In fact, after Murray, the other QB's are going to slide down the board....again, based on my assesment that these QB's suck, coupled with the blue chippers into the 20's...no reason to draft a flawed QB high when you can get the same flawed guy in round 4. I wouldn't be entirely surprised at all if only Murray goes in round 1. 6. Round 2 will see several WR that will prove to be good value selections. Yes, I know you all don't care for the Chiefs fans perspective, but this is high quality analysis and I provide it for free. I agree with a lot of this. There is wishful thinking around here that teams like Miami and Washington are going shell out a king’s ransom to move up a few slots to 9. Not happening. I’m not as down on this QB class as you are, but I won’t be surprised if only one goes in the top 15. I think some WRs who don’t deserve it will get pushed up the board into the first round. And I agree there will be good ones available in round 2. I will be surprised if the Bills don’t go defense with their first pick, unless they manage to trade back. They think they’ve adequately addressed offense in free agency and won’t be desperate to grab a receiver or an OL. 1
LSHMEAB Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I don't think people know what to make of Haskins. He's the biggest mystery in the draft. Generally agree that the conditions are not ripe for a trade down. The only possibility is if a GM falls in love with Dewey.
ChevyVanMiller Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I guarantee that 3 QBs go in Rd 1. Stone cold lock. ? 2
Zerovoltz Posted April 8, 2019 Author Posted April 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: I guarantee that 3 QBs go in Rd 1. Stone cold lock. ? It's fluid enough right now that I wouldn't either bet for or against what you are saying here.
Rc2catch Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 No way this would fit into one of the other 100 draft threads right? Like maybe the Hock threads??
Zerovoltz Posted April 8, 2019 Author Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, Rc2catch said: No way this would fit into one of the other 100 draft threads right? Like maybe the Hock threads?? If a MOD would move this to the appropriate location, that would be fine.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Another person's opinion. Can we please draft already! 1
Zerovoltz Posted April 8, 2019 Author Posted April 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, dubs said: Jeffismagic I get this alot. I am not Jeffismagic. ....ironically, I post on a Denver Broncos board (and also Jetsnation) as Zerovoltz, and over there, those guys think I am also a Pat Mahomes guy who reinvented a new name etc. I'm really Zerovoltz. From KC. I live in Dallas/Ft Worth. I met and took pictures with Poncho Billa at the 2018 draft. My wife is a hot asian woman. 1
JaCrispy Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Trade back get a second and fant No thanks...Fant has Zay Jones hands...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zerovotlz said: My thoughts on this draft. 1. This a ONE QB draft. Kyler Murray is it. (it could be 2 IF Grier ends up in a good spot) I love Murray and I like Grier. The rest of the QB's in this class are garbage. Grier would need to land in a place like Cincinnatti where he'd have a chance to supplant the starter in order for this to become a two QB class. Unfortunately for Grier, I get the impression that a team like Indy or Carolina would take him and he'll ride the bench behind a well established starter. 2. This draft has a TON of DL blue chip prospects at the top. 3. Combine the idea here that it's a one QB draft, and that the blue chips will be available into the 20's and that means your going to have a draft with little or no trading at the top. With no QB to go up for, none of the teams like Washington or Miami will be inclined to pay a price to move up for the 2nd QB in this draft who is probably every bit as good (or bad as the case may be) as the 8th QB. Also, if you can get a Blue chip defender at 20, why trade up to 8, 9 etc? The market conditions aren't going to be there for teams to want to pay to move up. 4. This all means the Bills and others up at the top will be staying put and making a selection. And so, with the 9th pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select TJ Hockensen, TE, Iowa. My thought here is the Bills believe in their defense and their scheme. By getting involved in an attempt to trade for Antonio Brown, the front office has shown they are all in on getting Josh Allen weaponry. The Bills do not have a weapon at TE on their roster. Hockensen would start from day 1 and make an immedeate impact. 5. The Giants won't take a QB in round 1. The Broncos won't take a QB in round 1. The Dolphins won't take a QB in round 1. The Redskins won't take a QB in round 1 (because I think they will be trading their pick to Arizona for Rosen) In fact, after Murray, the other QB's are going to slide down the board....again, based on my assesment that these QB's suck, coupled with the blue chippers into the 20's...no reason to draft a flawed QB high when you can get the same flawed guy in round 4. I wouldn't be entirely surprised at all if only Murray goes in round 1. 6. Round 2 will see several WR that will prove to be good value selections. Yes, I know you all don't care for the Chiefs fans perspective, but this is high quality analysis and I provide it for free. I know these are your opinions so i won't bash them because they differ with mine so I'll just ask you questions instead. For comment #1- I think Murray is a fantastic athlete, he has a strong arm but a 1 man show? He wasn't even talked about until he declared for the draft, has only 1 year under his belt and was questioning whether to go to baseball instead. I have a hard time believing his 210 lbs. frame can take an NFL pounding but we'll see. What makes him the clear cut best QB in the draft in your eyes? Comments #2 and #4- The draft experts and gurus are saying this may be the best DL draft in the history of the NFL that being said we would take a TE instead of one of the DL? You state that the Bills have no weapon at TE but Kroft is being paid like he's the new weapon for the Bills and Croom in his first season showed flashes of potential so it's hard to get behind that theory that we don't have a good tandem there , I don't hate Hockenson but I'm trying to figure out what makes him the 9th best player in this draft class in a deep TE draft when we only have 1 pass rusher who turns 32 years old. So you think were a TE away? If our staff thinks this defense is set I'd be terrified, what makes you think they are fine with the defense as is with no other pass rushers? Edited April 8, 2019 by BuffaloBillsGospel 1
JaCrispy Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: I get this alot. I am not Jeffismagic. ....ironically, I post on a Denver Broncos board (and also Jetsnation) as Zerovoltz, and over there, those guys think I am also a Pat Mahomes guy who reinvented a new name etc. I'm really Zerovoltz. From KC. I live in Dallas/Ft Worth. I met and took pictures with Poncho Billa at the 2018 draft. My wife is a hot asian woman. Mmmm...I like hot Asian women...? 2
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