Augie Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 If it actually goes this way, I’ll have a grieving period, but then I’ll have to get over it.
Logic Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) On 4/9/2019 at 3:07 AM, NewEra said: The 5th year option is huge, but winning a super bowl when the window is open is so much more important. Drafting for the future after ending their season the way they did is questionable. Jmo edit: much of this has to do with my view of Lock. He’s aight. Don’t love him. Expand Fair enough. I factored that in, for sure. A large part of it for me was the absurd value of a guy like Lock falling all the way to 28th. I had every intention of filling an immediate need, but I couldn't get over the value of a guy like Lock dropping to 28. While the window is definitely wide open for the Chargers right now, the fact remains that they're a young team, they're in a new market where they're already having trouble attracting fans, and they cannot afford a prolonged period of QB purgatory after Rivers retires. And how much longer is Rivers really going to play? The commutes from San Diego to LA are going to wear on him. Plus he has around 57 children that he needs to care for. In the end, I had to weigh the short term help of a safety or guard against the long term help of a potential franchise QB and successor to Philip Rivers. Long term future won out. I have faith that the guys I already have in the building will get me back into the playoffs this year. I can find a safety and guard in rounds 2 and 3. Furthermore, I think the Chargers are weighing this in real life, as well, given that they've now had private workouts/interviews with both Drew Lock and Daniel Jones, both of whom are unlikely to be there when the Chargers pick in the 2nd round. I understand your perspective, though, and wrestled with it myself. Edited April 9, 2019 by Logic
NewEra Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:20 AM, Logic said: Fair enough. I factored that in, for sure. A large part of it for me was the absurd value of a guy like Lock falling all the way to 28th. I had every intention of filling an immediate need, but I couldn't get over the value of a guy like Lock dropping to 28. While the window is definitely wide open for the Chargers right now, the fact remains that they're a young team, they're in a new market where they're already having trouble attracting fans, and they cannot afford a prolonged period of QB purgatory after Rivers retires. And how much longer is Rivers really going to play? The commutes from San Diego to LA are going to wear on him. Plus he has around 57 children that he needs to care for. In the end, I had to weigh the short term help of a safety or guard against the long term help of a potential franchise QB and successor to Philip Rivers. Long term future won out. I have faith that the guys I already have in the building will get me back into the playoffs this year. I can find a safety and guard in rounds 2 and 3. Furthermore, I think the Chargers are weighing this in real life, as well, given that they've now had private workouts/interviews with both Drew Lock and Daniel Jones, both of whom are unlikely to be there when the Chargers pick in the 2nd round. I understand your perspective, though, and wrestled with it myself. Expand What’s another year without a super bowl?
Logic Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:41 AM, NewEra said: What’s another year without a super bowl? Expand I mean...I sincerely doubt that a rookie guard or safety would be the difference in winning a Lombardi or not, but ok.
SydneyBillsFan Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/8/2019 at 4:09 PM, Joe in Winslow said: So many high level business meetings. Expand Translated: "We're stepping out for a hot dog"
Alphadawg7 Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) On 4/8/2019 at 9:19 PM, Joe in Winslow said: Despite the Antonio Brown pickup, we at Patrick Starfish's Las Vegas-ish NFL Circus Sideshow feel we have a need for more weapons for the offense. The fact that both Fant and Hock are taken, and the "best" WR is off the board, we feel we need someone opposite Brown, so we'll pick N'Keal Harry, WR, ASU. @Virgil and the cheesesteak-eating urban mullets, er I mean the Eagles, are now on the board. Expand No disrespect bud, but did you forget Raiders also signed Tyrell? After spending a gazillion dollars on 2 WR's this offseason already, I think is practically 0% chance they will draft a WR in the first 2 days of this draft. They have so many big holes on D, TE, etc, just can't see them taking a WR Edited April 9, 2019 by Alphadawg7
NewEra Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:50 AM, Logic said: I mean...I sincerely doubt that a rookie guard or safety would be the difference in winning a Lombardi or not, but ok. Expand We’ll never know.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 3:59 AM, Alphadawg7 said: No disrespect bud, but did you forget Raiders also signed Tyrell? After spending a gazillion dollars on 2 WR's this offseason already, I think is practically 0% chance they will draft a WR in the first 2 days of this draft. They have so many big holes on D, TE, etc, just can't see them taking a WR Expand Quality TE were both gone, drafted DT with first pick. Harry is a big slot guy could be used like a YE. Also, we're the raiders, we don't answer to you. 3
GunnerBill Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 8:42 AM, Joe in Winslow said: Quality TE were both gone, drafted DT with first pick. Harry is a big slot guy could be used like a YE. Also, we're the raiders, we don't answer to you. Expand And Tyrell Williams sucks..... so there is that. 2
Mr Wild Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 So the Chiefs have two major needs CB and C. Looking at the CB left on the board none wow me and it is very easy to get a decent one in later rounds. But rght now we have the top choice in Center which we need to solidify our title run. Because of that the Chiefs select Erik McCoy, C/G, Texas A&M He impressed at the combine with his speed and had great interviews. Most have him going early 2nd but we want to make sure he is ours for the next 5 years. @aristocrat and the Green Bay Packers are on the clock.
GunnerBill Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 11:29 AM, Mr Wild said: So the Chiefs have two major needs CB and C. Looking at the CB left on the board none wow me and it is very easy to get a decent one in later rounds. But rght now we have the top choice in Center which we need to solidify our title run. Because of that the Chiefs select Erik McCoy, C/G, Texas A&M He impressed at the combine with his speed and had great interviews. Most have him going early 2nd but we want to make sure he is ours for the next 5 years. @aristocrat and the Green Bay Packers are on the clock. Expand Interesting pick. You'd go McCoy over Bradbury?
aristocrat Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 Packers will continue to go offense and go with aj brown, wr, ole miss. Defense was considered and will be built on in the second and third round but giving Rodgers weapons to combat the nfc north defenses is a priority.
GunnerBill Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 12:16 PM, aristocrat said: Packers will continue to go offense and go with aj brown, wr, ole miss. Defense was considered and will be built on in the second and third round but giving Rodgers weapons to combat the nfc north defenses is a priority. Expand Love this pick. That is my current mock draft pick too.... Let Randall Cobb walk? Here is your new Randall Cobb. Depends how much the offense changes under LeFleur, obviously, but I suspect Brown is the kind of smooth, reliable, consistent target that Rodgers would love.
aristocrat Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 12:19 PM, Virgil said: Only two to go.... @Bakin is up Expand Sorry forgot to mention that guy On 4/9/2019 at 12:23 PM, GunnerBill said: Love this pick. That is my current mock draft pick too.... Let Randall Cobb walk? Here is your new Randall Cobb. Depends how much the offense changes under LeFleur, obviously, but I suspect Brown is the kind of smooth, reliable, consistent target that Rodgers would love. Expand Absolutely agree. How many rounds are we doing?
GunnerBill Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 12:24 PM, aristocrat said: Sorry forgot to mention that guy Absolutely agree. How many rounds are we doing? Expand Just one for this exercise I think.
Virgil Posted April 9, 2019 Author Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 12:30 PM, GunnerBill said: Just one for this exercise I think. Expand Correct. I want to do overall at least 3. The next one will take some time with trades. Then we will do a 3 round 2 1
Mr Wild Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 11:33 AM, GunnerBill said: Interesting pick. You'd go McCoy over Bradbury? Expand I looked at them both. But McCoy is a better pass protector then Bradbury. I just have a feeling that McCoy will end up with a higher ceiling then Bradbury
whatdrought Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 12:43 PM, Virgil said: Correct. I want to do overall at least 3. The next one will take some time with trades. Then we will do a 3 round Expand Do players from this version get dibs?
GunnerBill Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/9/2019 at 1:44 PM, Mr Wild said: I looked at them both. But McCoy is a better pass protector then Bradbury. I just have a feeling that McCoy will end up with a higher ceiling then Bradbury Expand I think McCoy's physical potential is higher. Bradbury is a smart technician with a high football IQ who I think will quickly be one of the leaders of his team. It is a bit pay your money and take your choice.
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