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11 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

Speculation is worse than useless here - it's demonization of a group of people.  

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The point with the Shep call is he never once (still hasn't) shown that kind of journalistic integrity when it came to Trump/Russia. In fact, he did more than most to throw logs onto the fire - without having anything to back it up. It's not really about this situation, but about the track record of Shep and Fox. 

 

Though, to pretend there aren't: 1) Massive protests for two months in Paris and 2) Rising tensions between extremists groups and Parisian churches - is just as dishonest as someone claiming to know definitively one way or the other on anything at this stage. Either one of those could be connected. 

 

But I'm in complete agreement it's FAR too early to know one way or the other. And even if it was arson, there are multiple groups which would immediately become suspects - including yellow vest protesters and Islamic extremists (which are wildly different groups). The next 48 hours should tell us more one way or the other. 

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whatdrought
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Someone has faith in the French authorities to not need the help of the American President... man, we are really re-writing history around here. 

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You really suck at this, kid.

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Desperate to criticize, the BM is.  

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2 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

Right. Both sides (accident v. intentional) begin at 0 and when evidence is displayed, you adjust accordingly. The accounts from the scene saying it was an accident would be a point towards that camp, but the validity of that can be questioned for sure. So we wait and see what happens. 

 

We tend to default to believing something to be an accident (at least the media at large does) and that can lead to other potentials not being fleshed out. I haven't been watching fox, but I wonder if they are actually evaluating it from both sides. Not that it matters too much today.  

Cavuto did the same thing with another guest who was attempting to bring up the possibility of it not being an accident.

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Ben Franklin/BM: "How dare he show compassion!"

How long before he blames the people of France?  

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1 minute ago, BigMcD said:

Trump can do it. I mean if they wouldn't listen to him about how to put the fire out, the least they could do is let him rebuild it?

You really suck at this, kid.

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53 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Ben Franklin/BM: "How dare he show compassion!"

 

 

You see Trump's much later tweet and think of me? 

 

Really, man: You have problems.

 

Here's a proposal for you: You stop responding/obsessing about me and I'll never respond to another post by you where I make fun of your conspiracies. The board will be all too happy if you agree since no one wants to see more of this. Deal? 

1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

 

That's actually why I'm not too broken up about Notre Dame.  It's sad, yes...but do you have any idea how many medieval treasures were destroyed by allied fire-bombings?  

 

 

Yes, at some level, it's just "stuff."

 

It's personally sad for to see it so damaged because it has some touching memories for me from a recent trip to Paris. Also sad to see interesting places like this reduced to ash and rubble. So goes it all eventually.

 

I'm happy no one was hurt. 

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22 minutes ago, Foxx said:

beautiful

https://twitter.com/sophieGG/status/1117855700355407873

 

 

It is/was. Even more so thinking about what life was like when it was built, and its contrast with the surrounding world and life. Seeing it must have been like Disneyworld x googeplex. 

 

Paris

 

Behind the arch of glory sets the day;
The river lies in curves of silver light,
The Fields Elysian glitter in a spray
Of golden dust; the gilded dome is bright,
The towers of Notre Dame cut clean and gray
The evening sky, and pale from left to right
A hundred bridges leap from either quay.
Pillared with pride, the city of delight
Sits like an empress by her silver Seine,
Heavy with jewels, all her splendid dower
Flashing upon her, won from shore and main
By shock of combat, sacked from town and tower.
Wherever men have builded hall or fane
Red war hath gleaned for her and men have slain
To deck her loveliness. I feel again
That joy which brings her art to faultless flower,
That passion of her kings, who, reign on reign,
Arrayed her star by star with pride and power.

 

- Willa Cather

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4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

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The point with the Shep call is he never once (still hasn't) shown that kind of journalistic integrity when it came to Trump/Russia. In fact, he did more than most to throw logs onto the fire - without having anything to back it up. It's not really about this situation, but about the track record of Shep and Fox. 

 

Though, to pretend there aren't: 1) Massive protests for two months in Paris and 2) Rising tensions between extremists groups and Parisian churches - is just as dishonest as someone claiming to know definitively one way or the other on anything at this stage. Either one of those could be connected. 

 

But I'm in complete agreement it's FAR too early to know one way or the other. And even if it was arson, there are multiple groups which would immediately become suspects - including yellow vest protesters and Islamic extremists (which are wildly different groups). The next 48 hours should tell us more one way or the other. 

Well, Shepard Smith is just another in a long line of hypocrites pretending to be objective while pushing a narrative.  For God's sake the entire news industry is built upon speculation and innuendo. 

 

As for speculation, someone earlier wondered aloud about the speed in which authorities seemed to proclaim/imply the fire was a result of construction at the cathedral. I have known more than a few cause/origin in cause investigators over the years.  It seems likely that absent something along the lines of a French plumber admitting "I try to zolder zee pipe near zee rafter and how you say "Ah sheet it caught zee fire", that's pure speculation as well at this point in a fire this massive.  Hell you could have a construction worker with an axe to grind start this fire. 

 

Very few people of faith would accept "Construction caused it" until verified, and it's  human nature to speculate. I would assume it would be the same at any mosque, temple or the Taj Mahal. 

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Well, Shepard Smith is just another in a long line of hypocrites pretending to be objective while pushing a narrative.  For God's sake the entire news industry is built upon speculation and innuendo. 

 

As for speculation, someone earlier wondered aloud about the speed in which authorities seemed to proclaim/imply the fire was a result of construction at the cathedral. I have known more than a few cause/origin in cause investigators over the years.  It seems likely that absent something along the lines of a French plumber admitting "I try to zolder zee pipe near zee rafter and how you say "Ah sheet it caught zee fire", that's pure speculation as well at this point in a fire this massive.  Hell you could have a construction worker with an axe to grind start this fire. 

 

Very few people of faith would accept "Construction caused it" until verified, and it's  human nature to speculate. I would assume it would be the same at any mosque, temple or the Taj Mahal.

 

I'd wager that the media pushing the accident narrative so early was to prevent (possibly unwarranted) violence against the Muslim population. I can see the French going berserk over a terrorist attack on something so important to their culture and national identity as Notre Dame.

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