JimKellyTryouts Posted April 5, 2019 Posted April 5, 2019 Lots of hot takes and criticisms in here that I don't understand - how is he not worth the money? Frontloading the deal only improves their long term cap situation with so many guys needing deals in the near future, and if Dallas keeps drafting as well as they have, resigning your own is a good problem to have. Whether or not this HC/QB combo can get the job done and get a title is another thing.
GETTOTHE50 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 Can they win with dak though? Idt so. They will need a ravens-like defensive effort in order to get to the super bowl.
y2zipper Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 The issue with Front-loading is that the player is under-paid at the end and some guys hold out. 1
Bangarang Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 Fantastic player. Not sure why people have issues with this deal. 1
Doc Brown Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 Can't fault Dallas here as he's a force that consistently applies pressure. Mack and Donald got a larger contract and more guaranteed money so it's not that crazy of a contract. 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: not a newsflash but this is why you need to draft well.....not just in round 1 but in 2nd and 3rd rounds as well....... Cannot pay all of them....... It's gotten pretty simple. Sign the big free agents when your qb is on his rookie deal. Then draft well so you can replace those free agents when you pay your franchise QB as you acquire comp picks. Easier said than done though. 1
Aussie Joe Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 So it’s really a 3 yr $65Mil deal looking at the guaranteed.., Cap goes up.. Good players get paid.. 1
Happy Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 We paid a pass rusher $100M 7 years ago. I guess people forget? https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/3/17/2880629/mario-williams-contract-breakdown-buffalo-bills
billsfan89 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Magox said: I think this pushes Hughes up to around $14-$16M a year. I was hoping we'd get him between $12M-$14M. I don't think that is likely any longer. Hughes will need a monster 2019 to command anything dramatically above 10 million. Hughes going into 2020 will be 32 towards the back end of a pass rushers life span that's not a recipie for a big contract esp with his lower sack totals in recent years.
Aussie Joe Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 Could see Hughes getting extended for 3 years at around $12M per year..with the first 2 years guaranteed.. I think he has a few good years left in him.. 2
Richard Noggin Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Buffalophil1948 said: Best start drafting a few Gotta draft especially well for the expensive positions (QB/DE/CB, etc.)
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Augie said: The DRAFT gets more important every year!!! Nail the draft, because you can’t afford many of those contracts. . Truth is you have to hit the draft big in rounds 2--5. That's the bread and butter of rookie deals. If you can get starters and find a raw star or 2, you've got 3-4 years of controllable costs. 1
MrEpsYtown Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Ah, good ole quarterback purgatory!
MrEpsYtown Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Trade for Clark ... This actually may make a trade for Clark more likely. Hawks also just signed two defensive ends in Marsh and Nate Orchard. Obviously those guys aren't game breakers, but it is interesting that they signed two ends the day Lawrence signed this deal. Perhaps they are in all holding pattern with Clark waiting to see where the market was set. Now they have the Wilson imposed deadline on his deal coming up and Clark threatening to hold out. It's an interesting situation to watch in the next week or two. 2
Aussie Joe Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: This actually may make a trade for Clark more likely. Hawks also just signed two defensive ends in Marsh and Nate Orchard. Obviously those guys aren't game breakers, but it is interesting that they signed two ends the day Lawrence signed this deal. Perhaps they are in all holding pattern with Clark waiting to see where the market was set. Now they have the Wilson imposed deadline on his deal coming up and Clark threatening to hold out. It's an interesting situation to watch in the next week or two. He will be an expensive purchase... Swapping 9 and 21 as others have suggested in another thread won’t be enough IMO.., I would consider throwing in 2020 Day 2 pick as well...Obviously provided he agrees to a new deal.. 1
H2o Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 8 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: The Cowboys are screwed financially imo. I don't see how they will be able to afford all of these guys, but stranger things have happened.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 16 hours ago, Magox said: I think this pushes Hughes up to around $14-$16M a year. I was hoping we'd get him between $12M-$14M. I don't think that is likely any longer. Hughes isn’t worth that. He’s going be 31 and has 22 sacks in his last 4 years. It was a great trade but I’m very good with letting him walk at that crazy price. And plastic face Jones is insane. He loves him some dudes who are always a threat to get suspended. DL is very good but I would be really nervous paying him that. 1
Mark Vader Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 17 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: So Frank Clark is a DE, & Jadeveon Clowney is an edge. Someone please tell me the difference between the two. 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: So Frank Clark is a DE, & Jadeveon Clowney is an edge. Someone please tell me the difference between the two. I think Clark plays in a 4-3 and is pro typical DE whereas plays in a 3-4 where he is a DE/OLB who specializes in setting the edge (keep plays from bouncing outside him and back into the middle of the field). I could be wrong though. also, Bruce Smith was a 3-4 De which makes what he did even more amazing. 1
Magox Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Hughes isn’t worth that. He’s going be 31 and has 22 sacks in his last 4 years. It was a great trade but I’m very good with letting him walk at that crazy price. And plastic face Jones is insane. He loves him some dudes who are always a threat to get suspended. DL is very good but I would be really nervous paying him that. Looking at just his sack count is as vapid as purely looking at Josh Allen's completion %. Hughes has been among the league leaders in pressures and PFF rankings the past few years and has been invaluable to this team. Replacing his value and production wont be easy and having him gone without a comparable disruptive player as he would be disastrous for this defense. Which is why they need to get another good pass pressure specialist ASAP. 1 1
BillsFan4 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: We paid a pass rusher $100M 7 years ago. I guess people forget? https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/3/17/2880629/mario-williams-contract-breakdown-buffalo-bills they gave Dareus about the same, too. Edited April 6, 2019 by BillsFan4
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