mramefa Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Does anyone know what sites this bet is available on? I checked Bovada, but they seem to just have superbowl futures right now.
PromoTheRobot Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 2 hours ago, klos63 said: for the Bills or other teams? For you, the other team. I'll take the Bills 2 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Prove them wrong then... take their money. They said 4 last year. We won six. They said 5 in 2017. We won 9 and made the playoffs.
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Really, right? People do not understand how "Vegas" works. How does it work? Honest question.
klos63 Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: For you, the other team. I'll take the Bills They said 4 last year. We won six. They said 5 in 2017. We won 9 and made the playoffs. I was asking if you thought you should add 2 wins to whatever vegas says to just the bills or all teams. I don't understand your answer.
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, nrenegar said: Does anyone know what sites this bet is available on? I checked Bovada, but they seem to just have superbowl futures right now. Being in NJ, I checked Draft Kings, Borgata and even William Hill - no win totals. Maybe they go up tomorrow?
loyal2dagame Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 3 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/26405507/browns-see-projected-win-total-jump-3-games Bills at 6? Really? What a joke... Get you're bets in now boys and girls. Vegas is throwing Buffalo a bone. Put $1000 on the over and enjoy the reward.
Mr. WEO Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: How does it work? Honest question. Sports books pick a line/spread/over-under/money line etc to lure in the bets. The betting action then determines the adjustment of the line. 2
Augie Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: How does it work? Honest question. They want balance in what side people are taking, and the general population thinks we have sucked and WILL suck. Over/under of 6 is about what the world expects based on limited knowledge. If the bets are balanced, they don’t lose their shirts. (Qualifier: I’m the last person who should try to explain this stuff! I’m open to anyone’s with better knowledge. ) 1
row_33 Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 4 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/26405507/browns-see-projected-win-total-jump-3-games Bills at 6? Really? What a joke... 20 years running, why quit now?
MJS Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 3 hours ago, QCity said: We have the "Offended by Vegas predictions" thread every year. If you were outraged by last season's low win prediction and made a wager, you lost. Just walk away. Sportsbooks are built on exploiting homerism. And the year before you made good money. They guess just like everyone else.
row_33 Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, MJS said: And the year before you made good money. They guess just like everyone else. yeah okay.... LOL....
MJS Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: yeah okay.... LOL.... Are you disputing that? Look at their predictions from every single year and you will find they were dead wrong about a lot of teams. Every single year. The idea that Vegas is accurate is wrong. Doesn't mean that fans are more accurate, though. Nobody is accurate.
row_33 Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, MJS said: Are you disputing that? Look at their predictions from every single year and you will find they were dead wrong about a lot of teams. Every single year. The idea that Vegas is accurate is wrong. Doesn't mean that fans are more accurate, though. Nobody is accurate. you have tabulated every single prediction they have made and determined they were wrong that often? i think you are just pulling that out of your behind based on one or two things you "recalled." Vegas isn't out to be "accurate", it is out to make $$$ and it does this quite quite well... 1
PromoTheRobot Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, klos63 said: I was asking if you thought you should add 2 wins to whatever vegas says to just the bills or all teams. I don't understand your answer. Sorry. I feel Vegas under-predicts by the Bills by 2 games. Probably because non-Bills followers assume we suck. I would bet money on the over if they are saying 4 wins. We got six with what roster? Edited March 31, 2019 by PromoTheRobot
LSHMEAB Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Are you disputing that? Look at their predictions from every single year and you will find they were dead wrong about a lot of teams. Every single year. The idea that Vegas is accurate is wrong. Doesn't mean that fans are more accurate, though. Nobody is accurate. They're most certainly not guessing. They composite a power index based on data and set the numbers accordingly. Of course teams will outperform/under perform those metrics every year. They're not just throwing random numbers around. Too much cash involved. 1
LEBills Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Hammer the over, we got 6 wins with Peterman, Anderson and Barkley starting 4 games last year lol. 2
NoSaint Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Always add two to these predictions. You must be rich betting the over on the bills every year 4
MJS Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, row_33 said: you have tabulated every single prediction they have made and determined they were wrong that often? i think you are just pulling that out of your behind based on one or two things you "recalled." Vegas isn't out to be "accurate", it is out to make $$$ and it does this quite quite well... I didn't recall anything. I've looked at their predictions over the past few years and saw many instances where they were multiple games off. What you say is true. The want to make money. They don't care about wins and losses. Their lines are made according to general fan sentiment, not on how many games they think teams will win or lose.
MJS Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 42 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: They're most certainly not guessing. They composite a power index based on data and set the numbers accordingly. Of course teams will outperform/under perform those metrics every year. They're not just throwing random numbers around. Too much cash involved. Obviously they are making educated guesses, but those guesses aren't based on how they view teams will perform, they are based on how they believe fans will bet. The general fan will not have a good opinion of the Bills, even though the Bills, for those who follow the team, appear to have gotten better and signs point to more than 6 wins. This is different than last year. Most who followed the Bills expected a down year last season. 6 wins was spot on.
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