ndirish1978 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 I can see us trading up for Josh Allen and picking up a DT in the 2nd.
Chandler#81 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 9 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: I can see us trading up for Josh Allen and picking up a DT in the 2nd. How do we do that? Our 2nd would have to be involved in the trade up. Next years 1st?? Heaven forbid! 3
Cripple Creek Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: This is quite the puzzle. At face value, take jw at his word that something’s abrewin’ @OBD for a 1st Round trade up, if a partner can be found. It’s the likely cost that astonishes me, to make it happen. Forget about the 7 picks from Rd. 4 on. They aren’t in play in this high stakes scenario. The Jets paid their 1st and both 2nd Rounders to do this last year for Darnold. It cost us 2 -3rds & 22 to move up to 16 for Edmunds. Given the major holes at DT, OL, EDGE, RB & TE still glaring on the roster, I just can’t wrap my head around forfeiting our lone 2nd & 3rd in -by all accounts- a very rich draft for these positions. To say NOTHING of next years 1st! By now, even our most casual fans can rattle off the likely top 8 -9 players. So WHO is so otherworldly in the top 6, that Beane Must Have for the team which will remove 2 other likely starters from contention? Who, by God, WHO?? yes, I’m day drinking.. If this draft is as by all accounts- a very rich draft for positions of need why are you concerned about 2020 picks? I'm old, enough of this we'll get 'em next year crap. Rip that damn band-aid off and fix this gosh darn roster. 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: How do we do that? Our 2nd would have to be involved in the trade up. Next years 1st?? Heaven forbid! See above.
Chandler#81 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: If this draft is as by all accounts- a very rich draft for positions of need why are you concerned about 2020 picks? I'm old, enough of this we'll get 'em next year crap. Rip that damn band-aid off and fix this gosh darn roster. See above. Frankly, I fear this IS what they’re thinking. If the Bills can play up to the fanbase’ expectations this season of 9+ wins, our 1st draft pick next year will be somewhere around 54ish. That’s a very steep price! Especially for a player no higher rated than what will likely be available at #9 this year. Edited April 6, 2019 by Chandler#81
Cripple Creek Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Frankly, I fear this IS what they’re thinking. If the Bills can play up to the fanbase’ expectations this season of 9+ wins, our 1st draft pick next year will be somewhere around 54ish. That’s a very steep price! Especially for a player no higher rated than what will likely be available at #9 this year. Screw the fan base. Whaley played to the fan base. McBeane are aware of what they need and they aren't askeered to go get it.
Chandler#81 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: Screw the fan base. Whaley played to the fan base. McBeane are aware of what they need and they aren't askeered to go get it. Ha! OK, then who in your opinion are they targeting that they’ll be so eager to cost THEM so dearly? Cuz that’s what I’m not seeing.
billsfan1959 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Frankly, I fear this IS what they’re thinking. If the Bills can play up to the fanbase’ expectations this season of 9+ wins, our 1st draft pick next year will be somewhere around 54ish. That’s a very steep price! 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Ha! OK, then who in your opinion are they targeting that they’ll be so eager to cost THEM so dearly? Cuz that’s what I’m not seeing. I'm with you. I do not see anyone at the top of the draft worth giving up picks this year (2nd) and/or next year (1st) that could net additional impact players for a team needing them. 2
Cripple Creek Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Ha! OK, then who in your opinion are they targeting that they’ll be so eager to cost THEM so dearly? Cuz that’s what I’m not seeing. Who do I want them to target? White. Put him inside, plug Edmunds outside. Who might they be targeting? Damned if I know. What I do know though...if you're looking for DT or edge help at 9 you are getting the leftovers (yes, I understand that each board is different). If you dare to move up you can get your guy. 1
McBean Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 I want the other Josh Allen really bad. I believe he will be a force in the NFL and a great addition. The draft is crazy, never know what could happen. 1
ndirish1978 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/6/2019 at 6:07 AM, Chandler#81 said: How do we do that? Our 2nd would have to be involved in the trade up. Next years 1st?? Heaven forbid! 250 pt difference equals our 3rd and 4th. I don't see us trading up past the Giants, it's just not worth giving up your second or next year's first. 1
Delete This Account Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 On 3/30/2019 at 7:14 AM, 4merper4mer said: I have news for you Mr. Wawwrowrrwworow. Obsessing over bands that dress up as giant eyeballs and who can't carry a tune to the dumpster doesn't make you a music snob. It's just weird. That said, thanks for the football update. Can you clarify as to whether the trade up is for the pipsqueak from UMass since he is on 92% of the mock drafts published on this board? bands dressing up as giant eyeballs? i do think you clearly have me mistaken for someone like an early genesis fan or something. please. jw
XABI64 Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 its all bull#### rumors journos were convinced last year Rosen was our guy but he wasn't even in our top 3. these guys don't know anything. and there's no way Beane is moving up from 9. If he moves up and picks the wrong guy like Whaley did with Watkins its going to be a massive risk
Logic Posted April 8, 2019 Author Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, XABI64 said: its all bull#### rumors journos were convinced last year Rosen was our guy but he wasn't even in our top 3. these guys don't know anything. and there's no way Beane is moving up from 9. If he moves up and picks the wrong guy like Whaley did with Watkins its going to be a massive risk Ben Albright said the Bills wanted Josh Allen from day 1. He was adamant about it all offseason, even though Bills fans freaked out on him. Some journalists DO know things sometimes. To say that none of them know anything is not correct.
glazeduck Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Logic said: Ben Albright said the Bills wanted Josh Allen from day 1. He was adamant about it all offseason, even though Bills fans freaked out on him. Some journalists DO know things sometimes. To say that none of them know anything is not correct. As someone who, in the past has known a few things, I can say that this is true. What's also true, unfortunately, is that we live in a world where wild, complete speculation isn't held accountable because we all just go onto the next thing... plus, there's enough sports outlets and talking heads out there to cover just about every conceivable hot take and outlandish inevitability, so somebody's hot take was going to be right. Then there's the challenge of misinformation, every team uses the media when they need to, and some sources willingly spread false information if it means a tip on something real down the road. Too complex a system to ever ferret out who's looped in, who actually knows what, who's just guessing and who's willfully full of $#!+. Edited April 8, 2019 by glazeduck 1
Logic Posted April 8, 2019 Author Posted April 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, glazeduck said: As someone who, in the past has known a few things, I can say that this is true. What's also true, unfortunately, is that we live in a world where while complete speculation isn't held accountable because we all just go onto the next thing... plus, there's enough sports outlets and talking heads out there to cover just about every conceivable hot take and outlandish inevitability, so somebody's hot take was going to be right. Then there's the challenge of misinformation, every team uses the media when they need to, and some sources willingly spread false information if it means a tip on something real down the road. Too complex a system to ever ferret out who's looped in, who actually knows what, who's just guessing and who's willfully full of $#!+. Agreed. I, however, find joy in reading all the various wild speculations and rumors and "according to sources" and sussing out for myself what seems viable and what doesn't. It's probably totally fruitless, but it sure is fun in an otherwise boring offseason!
glazeduck Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Logic said: Agreed. I, however, find joy in reading all the various wild speculations and rumors and "according to sources" and sussing out for myself what seems viable and what doesn't. It's probably totally fruitless, but it sure is fun in an otherwise boring offseason! It's what makes the draft so much fun! We all think we know certain things, and then Tyson Alualu ends up as the 9th (11th?) overall pick and it sends the entire sports world to their therapist to question their very existence! I tend to try to take in as much of it as I can and then suss through it logically, using the filter that the closer we are to the draft, the more likely it is to be BS to determine what I believe.
Thurman#1 Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/6/2019 at 9:13 PM, Cripple Creek said: If this draft is as by all accounts- a very rich draft for positions of need why are you concerned about 2020 picks? I'm old, enough of this we'll get 'em next year crap. Rip that damn band-aid off and fix this gosh darn roster. Why? Because whether or not we do that, next year we'll have positions of need. That's the way this all works. And next year is the year we might very realistically start to be a very good team if things work well and we can fill those positions of need.
JaCrispy Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) On 4/6/2019 at 8:13 AM, Cripple Creek said: If this draft is as by all accounts- a very rich draft for positions of need why are you concerned about 2020 picks? I'm old, enough of this we'll get 'em next year crap. Rip that damn band-aid off and fix this gosh darn roster. See above. Nope, nope, nope....this isn’t the year to be mortgaging the future for 2019...we are not at that point yet, regardless of how old you are....this year is the “Empire Strikes Back” year of our rebuild...2020 will be Return of the Jedi. ? Edited April 9, 2019 by JaCrispy 1
NewEra Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/5/2019 at 5:34 PM, ndirish1978 said: I can see us trading up for Josh Allen and picking up a DT in the 2nd. Trading up to 2 huh? Jets are taking Josh Allen at 3, unless they trade down. He’s a perfect fit. I doubt the jets and Bills make a trade
ndirish1978 Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: Trading up to 2 huh? Jets are taking Josh Allen at 3, unless they trade down. He’s a perfect fit. I doubt the jets and Bills make a trade I think you're right. But if he slips past them I could see them making a move. I don't see us trading up that high for any single player but I think 6-8 might be on the table based on what we'd have to give up and our ability to jump back into the late 3rd rd after trading our 3rd away since we have 2 4s. Just a complete opinion and obviously not based on anything factual.
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