BuffaloRebound Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: So you think Beane works out a deal with his old pal Gettleman and gets to 6 for Eddie O? Giants drop to 9 and take Lock? Cant see it. If you like a QB, you don’t get cute for an extra 3rd rounder and risk somebody coming up and grabbing him. If Oliver is available at 6, there’s a good shot he’s available at 9. Jax is taking Hockenson or O-Line. Detroit pick could go a bunch of different ways. 1
JohnC Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: This makes a ton of sense. 9 and the Bills 3rd and a 4th for 6? I don't disagree that the Bills covet Oliver but why give up picks to move up to get him when there is a good chance that he will still be on the board when we pick. What increases the chances that he will still be on the board is that a qb or two or maybe three might be targeted before we pick thus increasing the odds that he or another highly rate player will still be available. If he isn't on the board when our turn comes up that will still good options on the line at other positions that will also fortify the roster. If the Bills were inclined to deal off picks I would rather they do it to move up after our first round selection to get a higher graded player for other positions, such as RB, OL or TE. 1
Logic Posted March 30, 2019 Author Posted March 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: I worry that Eddie has bust potential Everybody has bust potential.
BillyWhiteShows Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 Just now, Logic said: Everybody has bust potential. Eddie seems like he had high bust potential....maybe its just me
Reed83HOF Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Logic said: Everybody has bust potential. The more elite players we can have, the better
LSHMEAB Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 1 minute ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Eddie seems like he had high bust potential....maybe its just me It'd be cool if you could explain WHY he has a higher bust potential than the other prospects.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, JohnC said: I don't disagree that the Bills covet Oliver but why give up picks to move up to get him when there is a good chance that he will still be on the board when we pick. What increases the chances that he will still be on the board is that a qb or two or maybe three might be targeted before we pick thus increasing the odds that he or another highly rate player will still be available. If he isn't on the board when our turn comes up that will still good options on the line at other positions that will also fortify the roster. If the Bills were inclined to deal off picks I would rather they do it to move up after our first round selection to get a higher graded player for other positions, such as RB, OL or TE. They love Oliver. There is a chance that he is their top overall player. They certainly aren’t using 10 picks. They won’t even use 7 imo. These picks are there to move around. They don’t have a ton of spots. Oliver is an absolute stud at a position of need. If they are as high on him as I suspect they have no issue moving up. 5
Boatdrinks Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, JohnC said: I don't disagree that the Bills covet Oliver but why give up picks to move up to get him when there is a good chance that he will still be on the board when we pick. What increases the chances that he will still be on the board is that a qb or two or maybe three might be targeted before we pick thus increasing the odds that he or another highly rate player will still be available. If he isn't on the board when our turn comes up that will still good options on the line at other positions that will also fortify the roster. If the Bills were inclined to deal off picks I would rather they do it to move up after our first round selection to get a higher graded player for other positions, such as RB, OL or TE. Beane and even McD in his first draft have displayed a willingness to move up for specific players rather than letting the draft fall to them. Whether you agree with the strategy - there was likely a chance the players would be available in their original spots- or not, it fits in with Wawrow’s response. If they are comfortable with the price to move up, it seems a likely scenario.
MrEpsYtown Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 3 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: going from nine to 2 ?? ouch It's going to take a good amount, but you are getting the top player in the draft. 2 elite players in the this draft in Bosa and Williams. SF just seems like a team that would want to trade down idk. Tampa makes sense too.
TigerJ Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: Y’all can now issue me your apologies. I’ll be gracious in acceptance. You'll have to wait a few weeks. Even then, it's still a big "if"
Aussie Joe Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: It's going to take a good amount, but you are getting the top player in the draft. 2 elite players in the this draft in Bosa and Williams. SF just seems like a team that would want to trade down idk. Tampa makes sense too. So 9, 40, 2020 first and 2021 second should just about do it to go from 9 to 2.. Bosa and Williams had better be the next Bruce Smith for that haul.. Edited March 30, 2019 by Aussie Joe
BuffaloRebound Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: It's going to take a good amount, but you are getting the top player in the draft. 2 elite players in the this draft in Bosa and Williams. SF just seems like a team that would want to trade down idk. Tampa makes sense too. I can buy this more than trading up 2-3 spots for a guy 6 teams already passed on. Good chance that guy falls to you at 9. If they think Williams is the best player in the draft and Arizona takes the QB, and the 49ers and Jets take pass rushers because they’ve drafted top 5 DT’s the past couple drafts and Bosa/Allen are elite pass rushers. Raiders might be willing to trade down. 1
YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 1 hour ago, BillsFan17 said: Out of curiosity, other than the clip of McDermott at the pro day, what else have they done to show their overwhelming interest in Oliver? I'm a huge Oliver fan, and want him the most in the first, so I'm just asking seriously. He is scheduled to visit the Bills twice. They only get 30 total. 33 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: Let’s keep lighting draft picks on fire. I would be happy to light Ray Ray on fire and throw in Austin Proehl too. Should have used those two picks and moved up in the 5th 4
Reed83HOF Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: They love Oliver. There is a chance that he is their top overall player. They certainly aren’t using 10 picks. They won’t even use 7 imo. These picks are there to move around. They don’t have a ton of spots. Oliver is an absolute stud at a position of need. If they are as high on him as I suspect they have no issue moving up. His athleticism is something McD & Beane covet. The 40, 3 cone, shuttle, etc indicate an astounding athlete and his film is damn good too. Allen & Edmunds are the same type of specimens. Edited March 30, 2019 by Reed83HOF 3
BringBackFergy Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 All the same experts on this board that loved Josh Rosen (who is being shipped out of Arizona after one year) are telling us we are moving up for Oliver. I’ll reserve judgment based on their whiff on last year’s QB projection. Don’t believe the hype. Beane giving away a 3rd and 4th round pick to move up 3 spots??? Think again.
BillsFan17 Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: All the same experts on this board that loved Josh Rosen (who is being shipped out of Arizona after one year) are telling us we are moving up for Oliver. I’ll reserve judgment based on their whiff on last year’s QB projection. Don’t believe the hype. Beane giving away a 3rd and 4th round pick to move up 3 spots??? Think again. Honestly, there is zero way Rosen being moved is on him. Anyone using that to gauge Rosen is not seeing the forest through the trees. The Cards are absolutely stupid for this. Edited March 30, 2019 by BillsFan17
Dr. Who Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: All the same experts on this board that loved Josh Rosen (who is being shipped out of Arizona after one year) are telling us we are moving up for Oliver. I’ll reserve judgment based on their whiff on last year’s QB projection. Don’t believe the hype. Beane giving away a 3rd and 4th round pick to move up 3 spots??? Think again. I have no idea if they are moving up for Oliver, but I liked Allen before the draft and I also like Oliver. 1
MrEpsYtown Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 I love Bosa, Williams, Allen, Oliver. If we get one of those guys I will be ecstatic. 25 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: So 9, 40, 2020 first and 2021 second should just about do it to go from 9 to 2.. Bosa and Williams had better be the next Bruce Smith for that haul.. I'd probably do it, I have a hard time giving up 40, but I'm fine with the rest. But I do think San Francisco might take a player like Zay Jones or even Trent Murphy (Stanford connection) in a trade in place of a pick. I think they want to trade down for a guy like Greedy Williams and in doing so can get the pick they traded for Dee Ford back and then some. But yeah I'd take Bosa, and I think he will be at least as good as his brother, probably better and a perfect fit in McDermott's system imo. 1
ndirish1978 Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: I'll suck some D to get Bosa and Hock 4 hours ago, JaCrispy said: You’re not fooling anyone, Mister...we all know you would do it for free...? #alittletooeager Pretty sure @JaCrispy has a Kiko Alonso jersey he's willing to part with... just sayin' Edited March 30, 2019 by ndirish1978 1
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