Tipster19 Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 They wanted to create parity so why stop short? The teams (this year’s Colts) that were shrewd enough to conserve their salary cap space while sporting a competitive roster should be allowed to trade off some space to obtain better players whether it be in trade or by draft. For the teams that are in salary cap trouble this would allow them to reset by by trading off either draft position or player(s). If there should be a limit or percentage of what salary cap space is debatable but I think that this would be a brand new twist to the ever changing NFL, it keeps it fresh and it keeps it interesting. It doesn’t hurt that it would also make the predictions and projections even more muddled for the gambling aspect which is widely suspected of making up a large part of the NFL. 1
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Nah I actually hate trading Cap Space Idea. It will just further widen the gap between the haves and have nots. However retaining Salary (like the NHL) for up to 2 players total that could be an idea. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Put the crack pipe down and step away from the table If you put yourself in Cap Hell you probably deserve to be there . I can't see rewarding these teams 4
formerlyofCtown Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) That would kinda eliminate competetive balance wouldnt it. It would be good if their was some kind of buffer for teams that were in tax happy states. Edited March 26, 2019 by formerlyofCtown 1
MJS Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 How do you figure that this would produce more parity?
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 OP, I like it. Case in point with Antonio Brown. Oakland has cap space and Pittsburgh has little especially as Brown’s dead money hits them.
Tipster19 Posted March 26, 2019 Author Posted March 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: That would kinda eliminate competetive balance wouldnt it. It would be good if their was some kind of buffer for teams that were in tax happy states. The salary cap could be manipulated. It would provide teams with issues an avenue to turn their situation around.
row_33 Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 I've been assured that the NFL cap is a joke and that any team can instantly drum up $20M on command.
TheBeane Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Maybe make it more of a conversation about dead cap hits? So for the AB trade to Oakland, Pitt has something like $20m in dead cap from the trade? Maybe allow it to be part of the negotiations on who would assume percentages of the cap hit? 2
PetermansRedemption Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Horrible idea. Horrible. This would be the opposite of creating parity. Teams that are already stacked can just keep trading for cap space and sign more players? 1
Just Joshin' Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 No. Make a team pay the price for mismanagement. High revenue teams will make out and low revenue teams will lose out. End result will be competitive advantage that is unfair. 11 minutes ago, TheBeane said: Maybe make it more of a conversation about dead cap hits? So for the AB trade to Oakland, Pitt has something like $20m in dead cap from the trade? Maybe allow it to be part of the negotiations on who would assume percentages of the cap hit? Then don't do stupid things. 1
MJS Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: The salary cap could be manipulated. It would provide teams with issues an avenue to turn their situation around. The option also remains for the teams who are stacked and already contenders, giving them another option to help keep them on top. The advantage goes to them, not to the worse managed teams who put themselves in a bad position to begin with. So no, I think it would result in the opposite of parity.
Mango Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 I have been a big proponent of adding more to the salary cap and including FO/Coaching/Training staff. You want the worlds best coaching and training staff, it will come at the cost of player quality, or visa versa. Teams like the Bengals are already doing the inverse. Large market teams generally can spend more on coaching/training/FO staff.
Bob in Mich Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 I often thought the 'home team discount' should be a real thing. Fans often lament losing a long time player due to salary reasons. The player wants to get paid but team hopping hurts team continuity while the fans would like to keep their favorites. So, what about giving a break on the cap for keeping players longer term? Not sure about the exact numbers but the idea would be discounts off the team's cap hit the longer a player remains with one team. For example, say a 5th year contract only counts 90% against the cap, a 6th year at 85%, 7th at 80%, 8 and over at 75%. The player gets paid, the fans keep their favorites, and the team gets a cap break while retaining continuity. One obvious downside I guess would be it would be tougher for new players to break in. Thoughts? 2
Mr. WEO Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: They wanted to create parity so why stop short? The teams (this year’s Colts) that were shrewd enough to conserve their salary cap space while sporting a competitive roster should be allowed to trade off some space to obtain better players whether it be in trade or by draft. For the teams that are in salary cap trouble this would allow them to reset by by trading off either draft position or player(s). If there should be a limit or percentage of what salary cap space is debatable but I think that this would be a brand new twist to the ever changing NFL, it keeps it fresh and it keeps it interesting. It doesn’t hurt that it would also make the predictions and projections even more muddled for the gambling aspect which is widely suspected of making up a large part of the NFL. The fact that a team can field a competitive team while saving losts of money means you don't need someone else's money....to build a competitive team. The NFL is unique in the "have nots" are those teams that are managed/coached poorly, not the ones with no money. Every team has the same budget. That's parity defined. This is a solution in search of a problem. 2
row_33 Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The fact that a team can field a competitive team while saving losts of money means you don't need someone else's money....to build a competitive team. The NFL is unique in the "have nots" are those teams that are managed/coached poorly, not the ones with no money. Every team has the same budget. That's parity defined. This is a solution in search of a problem. and the worst team is handed the top draft pick each year, that's parity defined. 2
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Now IF you want to create Parity using the Salary Cap. Then tie it to State Taxes as well. Teams that play their home games in states with a State Income tax. that Buffer gets added to the cap. So NY teams would get an additional 8.82% added onto their Salary Cap. This levels that Salary cap for ALL teams, and allows for the teams located in states with an income tax to offer the same VALUE as teams that are located in non income tax states. Levels that playing field. 3 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: They wanted to create parity so why stop short? The teams (this year’s Colts) that were shrewd enough to conserve their salary cap space while sporting a competitive roster should be allowed to trade off some space to obtain better players whether it be in trade or by draft. For the teams that are in salary cap trouble this would allow them to reset by by trading off either draft position or player(s). If there should be a limit or percentage of what salary cap space is debatable but I think that this would be a brand new twist to the ever changing NFL, it keeps it fresh and it keeps it interesting. It doesn’t hurt that it would also make the predictions and projections even more muddled for the gambling aspect which is widely suspected of making up a large part of the NFL. If you let salary cap space be traded, why bother having a cap at all? Just GROI (get rid of it)
Tipster19 Posted March 26, 2019 Author Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Now IF you want to create Parity using the Salary Cap. Then tie it to State Taxes as well. Teams that play their home games in states with a State Income tax. that Buffer gets added to the cap. So NY teams would get an additional 8.82% added onto their Salary Cap. This levels that Salary cap for ALL teams, and allows for the teams located in states with an income tax to offer the same VALUE as teams that are located in non income tax states. Levels that playing field. That is an excellent additive!
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