Tenhigh Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I was called the biggest homer on this board for years. I always wanted players to be good. I freely admit I have a blind spot to judging Bills players. I didn’t want Allen. And it had nothing to do with his physical skills or mental abilities. History says that if Allen becomes a successful qb, it will be a huge expectation to the general rule. I wish I could just join the cult of Allen and just blindly believe. Sorry but years of blindly believing and getting let down made me real skeptical. I’m need much more than 52% and a solid wonderlic score to change that. And as always, I hope the homers are right. But you've gone to far the other way, and are going out of your way not to like the kid. Listen, we all know that you're dying to jump on the bandwagon. What is it going to take?
eball Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: i was called the biggest homer on this board for years. I always wanted players to be good. I freely admit I have a blind spot to judging Bills players. I didn’t want Allen. And it had nothing to do with his physical skills or mental abilities. History says that if Allen becomes a successful qb, it will be a huge expectation to the general rule. I wish I could just join the cult of Allen and just blindly believe. Sorry but years of blindly believing and getting let down made me real skeptical. I’m need much more than 52% and a solid wonderlic score to change that. And as always, I hope the homers are right. And your solution is to now berate other posters and call them homers because they look for optimism? Curious.
Reed83HOF Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 I'm glad we don't have to go through this year again.... '6' = worse than a Janitor
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 4 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: Has nothing to do with making a decision within 3 seconds under pressure and accurately delivering a pass. All this says is Allen can retain a lot of information. What it means is that he has greater capacity to process what he sees and is more capable to interpret it correctly, thus making the right decision. Smarter people have the correct answer before less smart people. Give me a smart QB anytime. None of this has anything to do with the ability to throw the ball with the right velocity or accuracy. Coaching, athletic ability, and practice has to do the job with that. Unfortunately all the coaching in the world can't overcome stupidity ( Vince Young proved that for all of us.). All of the test scores with the exception of one, fall in a range that teams consider to be good for an NFL QB.
Solomon Grundy Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Forward Progress said: For those who want to know all of the scores... NFL Wonderlic Scores I have pulled out a list of QB's for the sake of reference: Player Score Position Ryan Fitzpatrick 48 QB Blaine Gabbert 42 QB Carson Wentz 40 QB Alex Smith 40 QB Eli Manning 39 QB Matthew Stafford 38 QB Colin Kaepernick 38 QB Josh Allen 37 QB Tony Romo 37 QB Andrew Luck 37 QB Jared Goff 36 QB Sam Bradford 36 QB Drew Bledsoe 36 QB Aaron Rodgers 35 QB Ryan Tannehill 34 QB Tom Brady 33 QB Nathan Peterman 33 QB Steve Young 33 QB Marcus Mariota 33 QB Kirk Cousins 33 QB Johnny Manziel 32 QB Matt Ryan 32 QB JP Losman 31 QB Trent Edwards 31 QB Phillip Rivers 30 QB Josh McCown 30 QB Matt Barkley 30 QB Josh Rosen 29 QB Troy Aikman 29 QB John Elway 29 QB Andy Dalton 29 QB Rex Grossman 29 QB Nick Foles 29 QB Matt Hasselbeck 29 QB Jimmy Garoppolo 29 QB Sam Darnold 28 QB Blake Bortles 28 QB Mark Sanchez 28 QB Drew Brees 28 QB Peyton Manning 28 QB EJ Manuel 28 QB Russell Wilson 28 QB Joe Flacco 27 QB Carson Palmer 26 QB Jay Cutler 26 QB Kyle Orton 26 QB Baker Mayfield 25 QB Ben Roethlisberger 25 QB Chad Pennington 25 QB Colt McCoy 25 QB Cardale Jones 25 QB Dak Prescott 25 QB Mitchell Trubisky 25 QB Brock Osweiler 25 QB JaMarcus Russell 24 QB Jacoby Brissett 24 QB Geno Smith 24 QB David Carr 24 QB Patrick Mahomes 24 QB Robert Griffin III 24 QB Jordan Palmer 23 QB Tim Tebow 22 QB Brett Farve 22 QB AJ McCarron 22 QB Cam Newton 21 QB Deshaun Watson 20 QB Teddy Bridgewater 20 QB Jake Locker 20 QB Derek Carr 20 QB Michael Vick 20 QB Derek Anderson 19 QB Daunte Culpepper 18 QB Paxton Lynch 18 QB Vinny Testaverde 17 QB Terry Bradshaw 16 QB Dan Marino 16 QB Jim Kelly 15 QB Vince Young 15 QB Steve Mcnair 15 QB Donovan Mcnabb 14 QB Kordell Stewart 14 QB Lamar Jackson 13 QB Vince Young 6 QB How is Vince Young up there twice?
YoloinOhio Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, the skycap said: How is Vince Young up there twice? I think he re-took it
Solomon Grundy Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I think he re-took it Why didn't they erase the lower score? There's quite a few HOFer's with scores in the teens. Is the wonderlic overrated?
prissythecat Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, the skycap said: Why didn't they erase the lower score? There's quite a few HOFer's with scores in the teens. Is the wonderlic overrated? When did these HOFers last play?
Buffalo Junction Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 51 minutes ago, Roch Jim said: "Jamarcus Russell scored better than Brett Favre. Air go, Jamarcus > Brett Favre" Please tell me you were having fun in a Wonderlic discussion when you said "Air go". Please? I’m pretty sure that comment is sponsored by Nike... Imbedded advertising. 1
BringBackFergy Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Roch Jim said: "Jamarcus Russell scored better than Brett Favre. Air go, Jamarcus > Brett Favre" Please tell me you were having fun in a Wonderlic discussion when you said "Air go". Please? You're post is a nonseckwiter
Bubba Gump Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Now we know how Vince Young got to school https://m.imgur.com/gallery/TFt30og
The Bills Blog Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Forward Progress said: For those who want to know all of the scores... NFL Wonderlic Scores I have pulled out a list of QB's for the sake of reference: Player Score Position Ryan Fitzpatrick 48 QB Blaine Gabbert 42 QB Carson Wentz 40 QB Alex Smith 40 QB Eli Manning 39 QB Matthew Stafford 38 QB Colin Kaepernick 38 QB Josh Allen 37 QB Tony Romo 37 QB Andrew Luck 37 QB Jared Goff 36 QB Sam Bradford 36 QB Drew Bledsoe 36 QB Aaron Rodgers 35 QB Ryan Tannehill 34 QB Tom Brady 33 QB Nathan Peterman 33 QB Steve Young 33 QB Marcus Mariota 33 QB Kirk Cousins 33 QB Johnny Manziel 32 QB Matt Ryan 32 QB JP Losman 31 QB Trent Edwards 31 QB Phillip Rivers 30 QB Josh McCown 30 QB Matt Barkley 30 QB Josh Rosen 29 QB Troy Aikman 29 QB John Elway 29 QB Andy Dalton 29 QB Rex Grossman 29 QB Nick Foles 29 QB Matt Hasselbeck 29 QB Jimmy Garoppolo 29 QB Sam Darnold 28 QB Blake Bortles 28 QB Mark Sanchez 28 QB Drew Brees 28 QB Peyton Manning 28 QB EJ Manuel 28 QB Russell Wilson 28 QB Joe Flacco 27 QB Carson Palmer 26 QB Jay Cutler 26 QB Kyle Orton 26 QB Baker Mayfield 25 QB Ben Roethlisberger 25 QB Chad Pennington 25 QB Colt McCoy 25 QB Cardale Jones 25 QB Dak Prescott 25 QB Mitchell Trubisky 25 QB Brock Osweiler 25 QB JaMarcus Russell 24 QB Jacoby Brissett 24 QB Geno Smith 24 QB David Carr 24 QB Patrick Mahomes 24 QB Robert Griffin III 24 QB Jordan Palmer 23 QB Tim Tebow 22 QB Brett Farve 22 QB AJ McCarron 22 QB Cam Newton 21 QB Deshaun Watson 20 QB Teddy Bridgewater 20 QB Jake Locker 20 QB Derek Carr 20 QB Michael Vick 20 QB Derek Anderson 19 QB Daunte Culpepper 18 QB Paxton Lynch 18 QB Vinny Testaverde 17 QB Terry Bradshaw 16 QB Dan Marino 16 QB Jim Kelly 15 QB Vince Young 15 QB Steve Mcnair 15 QB Donovan Mcnabb 14 QB Kordell Stewart 14 QB Lamar Jackson 13 QB Vince Young 6 QB There are some interesting trends there.
bobs0108 Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 The way I look at the Wonderlic today for a Qb as long as you score a 25 or higher you have a chance at being a starter in the NFL as long as the rest of the skills and brains add up. If you are under 25 it is a lot harder but doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Like what was said up stream it’s just one of many measures that you use to drafting a Qb.
TigerJ Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 6 hours ago, The Jokeman said: According to http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/wonderlic-test-scores-nfl-draft-lamar-jackson-baker-mayfield-josh-allen-rosen-2018/ybb46fv3x1ex1r4hj3l4j9gtb Josh Rosen was supposed to be the hyperintelligent renaissance man last year, but our guy is a lot smarter.
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 7 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Look at the intelligence of my QB. The sheer acumen of my QB. The brain capacity of my QB. The intellect of my QB. the aptitude of my QB. The precociousness of my QB. The IQ of my QB. I noticed you didn't mention "Accuracy" 1
DuckyBoys Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 I took it and got a 42 . Football players are not too bright
BobChalmers Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: Has nothing to do with making a decision within 3 seconds under pressure and accurately delivering a pass. All this says is Allen can retain a lot of information. The Wonderlic has almost ZERO to do with retaining information, past some basic vocabulary questions. Give it a try - it's not easy. Also, it is timed and it is really fast (12 minutes for 50 questions) so under pressure and fast are two key components. 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think he re-took it Yes and he went from a 6 to a 16. I just tried one and got 29/29 when I ran out of time - apparently I'm smart enough to answer the questions but not smart enough to read the directions on the part where it's 12 minutes for 50 questions! Spent 5 minutes getting one that had me stuck Pretty sure I'd have been well in the 40's if I'd skipped it and moved on. I'm a physicist and robot AI developer, for context. Fitz has me impressed! Edited March 26, 2019 by BobChalmers
DuckyBoys Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 its basic math and word comprehension You score a 13 and the NCAA should explain how you got to college let alone passed
Pete Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 I think if you score in the 30's you are pretty sharp. Maybe not as smart and humble as Ducky Boys. But we can't all be Einstein
aceman_16 Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 37 but on my phone and was listening to WGR. I could have done better and ran out of time. 4 hours ago, the skycap said: Why didn't they erase the lower score? There's quite a few HOFer's with scores in the teens. Is the wonderlic overrated? It is a freakin joke. I wrote earlier. I got a 37, on my phone, while listening to WGR. I am sure it would have improved IF I paid attention to the test and the timer. I cant imagine if Inhad practiced it a few times before ro get toming and pace down. There are better psychological instruments in the in line with a stronger correlation of successful QB play and instrument scores.
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