Tiberius Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: may i ask in what way you think it was collusion and apparently Mueller did not? We will have to wait on the report to see what the conclusion was there.
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump tower meeting was collusion. So there was some. So any "meeting" is collusion? Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound? President elects probably meet with 100 or so officials from other countries, does that mean there were 100 "collusions"
Foxx Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: We will have to wait on the report to see what the conclusion was there. so, you are saying your previous post where you claimed the Trump Tower meeting was collusion was a faux pas on your behalf?
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: We will have to wait on the report to see what the conclusion was there. LOL He had 2 years, all the resources in the world, high priced all democratic leaning lawyers, access to anything and everything but ANOTHER investigation will find something. Obviously you are either 1) too emotionally involved and can't face reality or 2) you are a dullard 1
Tiberius Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: LOL He had 2 years, all the resources in the world, high priced all democratic leaning lawyers, access to anything and everything but ANOTHER investigation will find something. Obviously you are either 1) too emotionally involved and can't face reality or 2) you are a dullard No, actually, we have to wait for the report. You must be too stupid to understand that.
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 All you need to know about this report is, it was issued at 5 o'clock on a Friday evening, trying to get buried ASAP, CLASSIC. Funny, on the one hand Trump is supposed to be some idiot that can't control himself, then how is it he could trick all these investigators, only a genius could pull that off. You cant have it both ways. 1 1
Tiberius Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: so, you are saying your previous post where you claimed the Trump Tower meeting was collusion was a faux pas on your behalf? No, that was collusion, why Mueller has not charged it as a crime is something we will have to wait and see about. Ok? 1
Chef Jim Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: I will certainly admit that I expected new indictments related to Russian conspiracy and obstruction of justice at the conclusion. Congrats on being one of the lone adults in the room. But I have to use my favorite one word question with regards to the above quoted statement. Why? 1
Tiberius Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said: All you need to know about this report is, it was issued at 5 o'clock on a Friday evening, trying to get buried ASAP, CLASSIC. Funny, on the one hand Trump is supposed to be some idiot that can't control himself, then how is it he could trick all these investigators, only a genius could pull that off. You cant have it both ways. You can't indict a sitting president. If you could he would already be indicted for paying hush money to a porn star. Love your conspiracy minded nonsense though.
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No, that was collusion, why Mueller has not charged it as a crime is something we will have to wait and see about. Ok? LOL, cant give it up, so sad, so delusional. All the leaks of all the "evil " things Trump has been accused of the last two years and SUDDENLY, the report is finished and there are NO NEGATIVE leaks? A miracle i tell you, a miracle. 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You can't indict a sitting president. If you could he would already be indicted for paying hush money to a porn star. Love your conspiracy minded nonsense though. Paying hush money to a porn star to cover up sex is not a crime, you clearly dont know what you are talking about. By the way, you do realize the congress has their own slush fund to pay off sexual harassment claims? Try again, you are wrong. Edited March 23, 2019 by RoyBatty is alive 1
Chef Jim Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: We will have to wait on the report to see what the conclusion was there. And if you are wrong will you admit it?? Beahahahahaha!!! I crack myself up.
snafu Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: LOL He had 2 years, all the resources in the world, high priced all democratic leaning lawyers, access to anything and everything but ANOTHER investigation will find something. Obviously you are either 1) too emotionally involved and can't face reality or 2) you are a dullard Or both. Don’t forget that option.
Chef Jim Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 Sorry but anytime I can slide some UM in a thread I’m going to. Especially from a show where I’m front and center. Let this become memoryThe worst is yet to comeAnd all these points we've arguedWe still agree on someAnd when all faith is lost Is it alright to laugh You can lead with all new linesIf you believe in what you sayAnd life can be just as you make it Believe the lie and it will all come true If you believe in every lieYou're never free to walk awayYou should be free to go today Believe the lie and it will all come true So lets pretend you're listeningAnd all the rules get stretchedWho's the first to turn their backRevealing not their bestAnd finally right reactionIt's like floating on a raft
Bob in Mich Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, Foxx said: it was a comment directly pointed at the belief that Trump committed collusion with Russia. since you brought it up though, can i ask what you don't believe about the coup conspiracy? i mean, there is beginning to be an overwhelming amount of evidence being revealed that is pointing to exactly that. your thoughts are appreciated. Several problems with the coup conspiracy 1 for all the Page/Stroczk/Mccabe/Ohr/Comey problems that are claimed, what did they actually do to prevent Trumps election? If all of these supposed powerful people wanted to ruin Trumps candidacy, why didn’t they? If anything, DOJ/FBI players hurt Clinton. An active attempt to stop Trump would have included actions versus just typing suspicious things in assumed private texts 2 way too many conspirators. No one would conspire in a several hundred person conspiracy that could get them hung if discovered. Why wouldn’t some inquisitive Jimmy Olsen type blow the lid off the whole thing for fame or fortune? 3. What I saw with Rosenstein and McCabe discussing the possibility of Pence and the Cabinet removing Trump was not unreasonable nor was it a coup attempt. It seems that is was a discussion of the legal, constitutional path. If Trump were removed through a constitutional path, that would imply the exact opposite of a coup 1
Taro T Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1109244157023924225 His colluding with Mueller would be 1 way for him to know there was nothing there. Or, having been involved back in '16, his 1st hand knowlegde of the original investigation could be another way for him to know there was nothing there. 1 1
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Several problems with the coup conspiracy 1 for all the Page/Stroczk/Mccabe/Ohr/Comey problems that are claimed, what did they actually do to prevent Trumps election? If all of these supposed powerful people wanted to ruin Trumps candidacy, why didn’t they? If anything, DOJ/FBI players hurt Clinton. An active attempt to stop Trump would have included actions versus just typing suspicious things in assumed private texts 2 way too many conspirators. No one would conspire in a several hundred person conspiracy that could get them hung if discovered. Why wouldn’t some inquisitive Jimmy Olsen type blow the lid off the whole thing for fame or fortune? 3. What I saw with Rosenstein and McCabe discussing the possibility of Pence and the Cabinet removing Trump was not unreasonable nor was it a coup attempt. It seems that is was a discussion of the legal, constitutional path. If Trump were removed through a constitutional path, that would imply the exact opposite of a coup I am not saying I believe in any coup conspiracy but the possibility does exist and should be explored. Drag all those people up in front of Congress and make them testify. Get it over with one way or the other so please can stop screaming about the "coup". This Sean Hannity is obsessed with it. No dragging it out for 2 years like this damn Mueller report. 1) Just because they didnt succeed doesnt mean they didnt happen and the "coup" if you wlil extends post-election meaning embarrass him force Trump out , make him quit with the golden shower idiocy and the Russian collusion. 2) Disagree. Actually there arent way too many, it would not take several hundred, no with all the lower level operative maybe 20 and a handful at the top is all needed. 3) That is a solid point but it should be investigated esp when one of them supposedly wanted to wear a wire and spy on a duly elected president, non-elected govt burueacrats trying to overturn an election should concern Americans. ANd those screaming coup go way beyond just what Rosenstein & McCabe were doing. Lets just get the whole thing out and get over with it, make them all testify. Edited March 23, 2019 by RoyBatty is alive 2
Deranged Rhino Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 Time's almost up, John. No one should ever take a word this man says seriously again. He's a liar. He's a traitor. He's murdered american journalists. ***** him and his masters. 3 1
Bob in Mich Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Congrats on being one of the lone adults in the room. But I have to use my favorite one word question with regards to the above quoted statement. Why? In brief, all the lying. Why all the lies? Why the concoction of new lies when original lies were challenged? If caught in an innocent misstatement, the honest person doesn’t tell another lie. Why do almost all of these lies involve Russian contacts? As said, I am interested to see Muellers reasoning.
Tiberius Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: In brief, all the lying. Why all the lies? Why the concoction of new lies when original lies were challenged? If caught in an innocent misstatement, the honest person doesn’t tell another lie. Why do almost all of these lies involve Russian contacts? As said, I am interested to see Muellers reasoning. You can easily add to your list of questions: Why believe Putin over our intelligence agencies, why the parroting of Russian propaganda, why change the GOP platform about Russia, why the criticize NATO, why fire Comey over this Russia thing, why the screaming over Session recusing himself, why private meeting with Putin with no advisors, no notes and why all the dragging of feet over sanctions. 2
Deranged Rhino Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Several problems with the coup conspiracy 1 for all the Page/Stroczk/Mccabe/Ohr/Comey problems that are claimed, what did they actually do to prevent Trumps election? If all of these supposed powerful people wanted to ruin Trumps candidacy, why didn’t they? If anything, DOJ/FBI players hurt Clinton. An active attempt to stop Trump would have included actions versus just typing suspicious things in assumed private texts I know you tuned me out over a year ago, but you should really go back through my evidence. It's all there, and these questions are answered. This entire narrative began when Admiral Mike Rogers exposed an illegal spy ring inside the DOJ/FBI designed to spy on 44's political opponents. Rogers ordered an internal audit and demanded explanations (legal explanations) for why government contractors inside the FBI/DOJ had been running illegal 702 searches on NSA servers. Trump/Russia was created to explain away those crimes - while simultaneously helping to turn the surveillance spigot back on (which meant creating enough "evidence" to get a FISA warrant on someone in Trump's circle). The plan, during the election, was to concoct and spread this phony Russian collusion/conspiracy nonsense to taint Trump with scandal and help HRC win the election. Once she won, which they were sure she would, she would sweep it all under the rug and the illegal spying operation would continue as before. When Trump won, that's when the plan turned into a coup. They HAD to launch a coup because each and every one of them - including Obama himself - were now open and exposed to serious legal peril because of the crimes they had been committing inside the DOJ/FBI against their political opposition. Not just Trump - but every campaign in 2016 was under their watch. And likely every campaign in 2014, 2012, 2010, 2008... They TRIED to ruin Trump. But Trump had an ace up his sleeve: He had Mike Rogers and the Military Intelligence wing of the DoD supporting him and running a counterintelligence sting. Trump was protected by master spies who chose him to run precisely to defeat this group of corrupt intelligence and political officials who had hijacked our government and country years ago. That's the real story. And it's backed by evidence. 33 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: 2 way too many conspirators. No one would conspire in a several hundred person conspiracy that could get them hung if discovered. Why wouldn’t some inquisitive Jimmy Olsen type blow the lid off the whole thing for fame or fortune? It's not too many conspirators. It's less than 100, in key positions within the machinery of the USIC, DOJ, FBI and White House. They were FORCED to try this gambit because of what was exposed by Adm Rogers above. They were forced into a corner by Rogers, and led directly into a trap. Why didn't "some inquisitive Jimmy Olsen type blow the lid off"? Because the corporate media is hand in hand with the USIC and compromised. Plenty of people tried to blow the lid off - hundreds of citizen journalists (including this one) worked for two years exposing it. In return we were called Putin supporters. Traitors. Trump lovers. And every name in the book. Just read the Russian threads back in 2017 and see for yourself. The conditioning and propaganda was THICK because we are (still) in a (dis)information war. 36 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: 3. What I saw with Rosenstein and McCabe discussing the possibility of Pence and the Cabinet removing Trump was not unreasonable nor was it a coup attempt. It seems that is was a discussion of the legal, constitutional path. If Trump were removed through a constitutional path, that would imply the exact opposite of a coup That wasn't the coup attempt. The coup attempt was what was described above. Again, I know you tuned me out awhile ago. You should reconsider that decision and go back through my posts (and others) and see for yourself. This whole farce was exposed in 2017... two years ago. 11 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: In brief, all the lying. Why all the lies? Why the concoction of new lies when original lies were challenged? If caught in an innocent misstatement, the honest person doesn’t tell another lie. Why do almost all of these lies involve Russian contacts? As said, I am interested to see Muellers reasoning. Because this is a (dis)information war. Trump was being attacked not just by the media and political opponents, but by the most invasive and powerful surveillance tools in existence, wielded by corrupt intelligence officials from multiple countries. When you're fighting shadows, you don't fight them head on. That's how you end up dead. You have to fight them on their terms. Baiting them into traps designed to expose them to the general public. Trump spent years bashing Mueller and Sessions - none of those are real sentiments or tweets. They're misdirection designed to build support for Mueller - the man he knew would exonerate him in the end. 5 1
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