Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) Decision is needed by May 3rd - What say you Two bills drive?! I voted yes - mostly because cap space isn't at a premium for next year, and you can cancel it for any reason other than injury. Edited March 22, 2019 by dneveu 2
WMDman Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 I think he has developed nicely so i personally would pick it up 1
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 Yes, he's come along nicely and is still developing.
PetermansRedemption Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 I would vote for option 3, work to extend him without exercising the option. Barring that, I would pick up the option. 2
ctk232 Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) Certainly would pick it up for the depth in rotation if nothing else - while he may never live up to his pick, I like the guy and his work ethic on the DL. He's willing to play multiple tech roles and while he hasn't been dominant, he has shown he can at least be effective at each. See how this year goes and since he likely won't command a huge payday, we'll have the additional option to re-sign him if this year goes well. At least the FO gets to go through the draft before deciding. Wouldn't make sense to pick it up prior to the draft. Edited March 22, 2019 by ctk232 1
Steve Billieve Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 I said no because I don't think he's going to be commanding big bucks after this year, if we like him lets just sign him long term and get it done long term while its relatively pain free. 1
Buddy Hix Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) Waiting to see how the draft goes. If a top pass rusher slips and we grab him, bye Shaq, if not, might as well keep Shaq around. Edited March 22, 2019 by Buddy Hix 2 2
Misterbluesky Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Yes, he's come along nicely and is still developing. For a 19th overall pick, he shouldn't still be in a developing stage...but last year was his best.
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 I said no because he doesn't seem like much of a pass rusher
RyanC883 Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: For a 19th overall pick, he shouldn't still be in a developing stage...but last year was his best. Agree with this. But we should not have picked him at #19. He plays like a guy drafted in the 2nd or 3rd, where he should have been taken. He's still good depth and/or that ability to be an average to above-average starter, and as you stated, last year was his best, so I'd def exercise the 5th year option. 3
Mark80 Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, dneveu said: Decision is needed by May 3rd - What say you Two bills drive?! I voted yes - mostly because cap space isn't at a premium for next year, and you can cancel it for any reason other than injury. Exactly my sentiment. 1
DCbillsfan Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 I think no. I hope the Bills draft a DE and extend Hughes. If Lawson has a good year, try to extend him during the season or tag him at season end with the intention of extending. If can"t reach a deal, trade him.
Bangarang Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) It’s an easy no for me. He’s a decent rotation guy that won’t command much money. I’d let it play out and try to sign him after the season is up. Edited March 22, 2019 by Bangarang 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 22, 2019 Author Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: What is the amount for the option? somewhere around top 25 money. the 3rd-25th highest Prior Year Salaries for the player’s position will be used. Edited March 22, 2019 by dneveu
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 Yes, they should pick it up. He's probably not worth the salary, but given it's only 1 year and we have the cash, I'd do it. In a cap crunch, I'd say no. But that's not where we are. 12 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: What is the amount for the option? I've seen 10 million reported.
thenorthremembers Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) Pretty torn on this one but I said no. You ultimately have to pay the guy 12.7 million for that year, 13th highest paid Defensive End in the league, just between Brandon Graham and Dante Fowler. Cap Room or not if you're not intending on signing him long term you can use the 12.7 and put it towards signing someone like Yannick Ngakoue who is a far superior player. You'd be better off letting him hit the open market and see if you can bring him back at a lower per year deal if you want him back that bad. He has been nothing more than a good rotational player who has missed 25% of his games. He doesnt have roster value at the 5th round option level. Pass Because he wasnt a top ten pick his option is the average of the 3rd-25th highest paid players at his position. Edited March 22, 2019 by thenorthremembers 4
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 22, 2019 Author Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Pretty torn on this one but I said no. You ultimately have to pay the guy 12.7 million for that year, 13th highest paid Defensive End in the league, just between Brandon Graham and Dante Fowler. Cap Room or not if you're not intending on signing him long term you can use the 12.7 and put it towards signing someone like Yannick Ngakoue who is a far superior player. You'd be better off letting him hit the open market and see if you can bring him back at a lower per year deal if you want him back that bad. He has been nothing more than a good rotational player who has missed 25% of his games. He doesnt have roster value at the 5th round option level. Pass Because he wasnt a 1st round pick his option is the average of the 3rd-25th highest paid players at his position. It's a gamble either way - pick it up and he gets hurt, you're stuck with him. If you don't pick it up and he has a career year, you have to pay him more. The 3rd option is pick it up - and if he doesn't get hurt, you have the flexibility to cut him with no cap ramifications, or keep him and pay him the contract. Lot of different ways this could play out - but assuming we're carrying a healthy amount of space over into 2020 (we have 75 million currently available in 2020 without carrying anything over, and we have 33 currently available in the top 51 that would carry over), I'd be open to the risk I think. We only have a couple of higher profile free agents in Hughes, Lorax, Phillips, and McCoy - so no major extensions looming for 2020 specifically. Assuming Lorax/McCoy are gone and replaced with younger players that would just leave Hughes/Phillips as the only real candidates to extend. Edited March 22, 2019 by dneveu
mjt328 Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 Let's see what happens in the draft first. But I'm leaning towards yes. He's clearly an improving player. We have plenty of cap space again next season, and the option is basically just tacking one season onto his contract. If he doesn't get any better or declines, we are basically stuck overpaying him for one season. Not a big deal.
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